Why do people back into car park spaces.

85603

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117891822#Comment_117891822

I agree, I'm over thinking this.

I'm not talking about safety here, I'm talking about which is easier, reversing out or reversing in.

And if you think its easier to reverse in than reverse out then I don't know what to say. In the same way I don't know what to say to a flat earther.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117891891#Comment_117891891

Which do you think is more important - doing it the easy way or the safe way?

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117891891#Comment_117891891

So the whole point of the reason for reversing in has been lost on you. It's not about what's easiest for you, it's what's proven to be much safer. Lots if things in life are easier for us as individuals; doesn't make them right though.

85603

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892098#Comment_117892098

The added margin of safety must be the same as wearing a hard hat in bed. All this has already been covered earlier in the thread. Its safer in the same way as wearing a second condom is safer. Thats already been addressed. The question now is, is it easier and obviously its not, maybe thats why reverse parking is taught later in driving lessons.

Tell me of the time when a driving instructor has ever taken out a nervous newbie and then finished with 'next week we'll cover driving straight in to a parking spot, but for now you can just reverse into the space'. Its never happened. And you know it hasn't.

Who here covered reverse parking first. Not you. Not anyone here. Because its inherently more difficult.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892238#Comment_117892238

Sure, hard hats in bed, nothing to see here.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/baby-killed-as-car-reversed-outside-her-family-home-to-be-buried-today-1.627384

"I felt a slight bump".

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/baby-killed-as-his-aunt-reversed-vehicle-out-of-driveway-1.618535

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20306138.html

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/herald/news/boy-3-hit-and-killed-by-tractor-reversing-27942773.html

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20017008.html

85603

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892113#Comment_117892113

strawman on top of an assumption. it is technically safer. in the most ned flanders way. in the beware of aggravated swans way.

if you reverse park for safety then i dont know what you're doing being on the roads in the first place. thats like bungee jumping with a scarf on in case you get a runny nose. in the grand overall scheme a policy of regular reverse parking will never make the slightest difference to your safety. (although im sure there are particular situations when its preferable, those are the times i use it).

85603

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892286#Comment_117892286

and how many babies are there on this planet of some 7 billion. like i said hard hat in bed odds. you must eat with hi-viz rounded cutlery.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892316#Comment_117892316

How many dead children are acceptable to save you the effort of parking properly?

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892287#Comment_117892287

Would you catch yourself in with the old strawman nonsense. It's not technically safer but demonstrably safer. Who said technically? A blind man on a galloping horse could see the greater danger in reversing out into traffic or a public walkway compared to driving out. RSA reports back that up.

Look, it's easier to drive in but it's not safer by any means. Tough if you want easy over safe.

And the piece about driving instruction and bungee jumping is a huge strawman. 🤣 You shouldn't have a full licence if you have difficulty reversing in to a parking spot.

85603

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892329#Comment_117892329

but your links just say 'reversing'. not reversing out.

and ones a fcking tractor for the love of christ lolol.

you're underthinking this.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892287#Comment_117892287

I'll be blunt with you. You shouldn't be allowed to drive a vehicle.

It is one thing not to be capable of controlling an maneuvering a car to reverse it into a parking spot. It is another thing entirely not to be able to understand why it is safer.

If someone says to me that they are a learner driver so they aren't able to do it yet, I have a bit of sympathy. But given that the safety aspect is still beyond your comprehension after being explained multiple times, it would be my honest opinion that you shouldn't be in charge or a few tonnes of metal, glass ,and plastic which moves at considerable speed.

85603

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892360#Comment_117892360

But thats what you did.

Me, I said technically.

Nobody said reversing out was safer. Context will greatly matter as to whether its a triviality or a bad move.

I want both easy and safe enough. Its just neurotic to be concerned about safety related to reversing out in 99% of my life. Theres not going to be a baby at the petrol station, or a cyclist in the multilevel car park, and even if there were theres nothing to say there'll be an accident, or that I won't see them as I slowly reverse, just like you do when reversing in.

the bungee jump thing was an analogy, not a strawman.

I have a full license. I dont have trouble reversing in when i need, I just can't be bothered the vast majority of times because its not worth it.

the extra margin of safety you get from regularly reversing in is probably something similar to a very light smoker having filters on their cigarettes over rollies.

just wrap yourself up in cotton wool there and ill get the sugar.

85603

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892387#Comment_117892387

pmsl. i shouldn't be allowed to drive because i prefer to park the easy way.

what about all the other people who do the exact same, you know the majority of the population.

i have to screen shot this one. legends of the boards. fck me hahaha.

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892461#Comment_117892461

If your only ploy is to be snarky then carry on. I've better things to do than even my wit to that nonsense.

85603

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892479#Comment_117892479

ill be blunt. you shouldn't be allowed to operate a computer.

jesus this fcking place. no thats it im out. this is mental.

ForestFire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892496#Comment_117892496

Just before you go 85603 and genuine question, Our company have a reverse park policy in all our carparks, with signs displayed all around "Reverse park Only"

(As a safety measure no less)

What would you do if you worked for a company that introduce such a policy were you needed to park daily?

Reverse park, ignore signs and policy or leave company?

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892461#Comment_117892461

There may well be a child, anything from 3 to 13 in the petrol station, and in the multi-storey car park. If you're reversing in, you can see the area around the car before you reverse. If you're reversing out, you can't see around corners.

You'll probably be lucky, and you probably won't find yourself explaining to some parent some day that it was just easier for you.

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892702#Comment_117892702

Lads it’s a wind up, don’t be getting too worked up. There’s no one out there stupid enough not to understand the difference in why it’s safer to reverse in than reverse out. There are ignorant people who won’t do it out of pigheadedness and probably out of lack of driving ability but there is no one out there with an IQ so low as not to understand the reason for it so I wouldn’t be worrying or arguing over it, you’re being had!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117893098#Comment_117893098

If you can't back out of a space safely i'd say you need to resit your driving test

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117896754#Comment_117896754

Are you deliberately ignoring the point being made? It's not a matter of ability to reverse out, it's that this is the safer method by far.

As an aside: AXA recently commissioned a study which concluded..

"Here, then, are the reasons why reverse parking is the only option:

1. It’s safer. When you reverse into a space you are going into a designated space with no vehicle and pedestrian traffic. By reverse parking, you avoid backing out blindly into oncoming traffic or into the path of pedestrians. You can see your surroundings more clearly.
2. In an emergency, it’s much quicker to get into your vehicle and drive straight out. This could also be seen as a safety precaution too.
3. Reversing close to a wall may deter thieves from breaking into your boot as there will not be enough space for them to work.
4. Driving forwards into a parking space is a false economy in terms of overall manoeuvring time and safety. You will spend just as long (if not longer) trying to safely reverse out of the space into traffic so it makes sense that you do it safely into the empty space.
5. If anything should happen to your engine – for example you leave your lights on and the battery goes flat – you will have easy access to the bonnet if you have reversed parked."

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117896754#Comment_117896754

How do you see a small child walking towards you in front of the SUV on your passenger side before you start reversing?

DBK1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117896754#Comment_117896754

Fully qualified artic license. I’ve done 3 driving tests in my lifetime, car, rigid and artic. Passed all of them first time. I can safely say I’m a far more qualified driver than you are considering your the idiot that can’t understand how to park a car properly.

I was in a hospital car park today and out of 24 cars parked in the aisle I was in, 22 were reversed in and 2 were driven in straight. One of the driven in cars was a seven seater and it was very easy drive in as the space beside her was also empty. When she came back to her car 20 mins later there was another car parked in the space beside her. She went forwards and backwards 14 times before being able to get out of the space. Had she reversed in she’d have driven out in one movement or maybe 2 max.

She was by no means a bad driver either, it would have taken any other driver the same amount of attempts. The simple reason for that is when you have to reverse out, the car has to be 90% out of the space before you can lock the steering otherwise the front of your car will hit the cars parked beside you. It was a tight car park with barely a car length of space to the cars parked opposite. Therefore be the time she could lock the steering the back of her car was almost touching the parked cars opposite. All she could do was stay going forwards and backwards in the very small space she had at full lock in opposite directions until she eventually cleared the parked cars. I doubt she will ever drive into a space in a tight car park again.

And that my friend is the reason you reverse in, not drive in. Any idiot that doesn’t understand that should be embarrassed to be seen parking like that, and quite frankly isn’t fit to be driving in the first place.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117896967#Comment_117896967

That never happened me once in my lifetime and I guarantee you I'm a much safer driver than you.

I am fully aware of my surroundings when I reverse out. If you really want to get into it you are not fully aware of your surroundings when reversing in. its quite the opposite.

There's a reason why they get you to reverse around a corner in the driving test.

Parachutes

When I first got my driving license I had a small tip reversing my car into a space between two parked cars, the damage was minimal and the woman was sound about it but cost me 500 euro in repairs for her car. Since then I’ve gone on to get hgv licenses but still don’t reverse my car in to a space unless I absolutely have to. If it’s anyway tight I’ll just go to a different space further away, rather have the peace of mind than risk another accident.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117897013#Comment_117897013

Oh dear God 🤣

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117896983#Comment_117896983

Just ICYMI - How do you see a small child walking towards you in front of the SUV on your passenger side before you start reversing?

pawdee

Cars should cabs that rotate 360 degrees. They should also have "parking wheels" that momentarily drop down to facilitate driving straight into "parallel parking" spaces.

Mister Vain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117897075#Comment_117897075

How do you see a herd of deer coming around the corner on a country road in the middle of a blizzard?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117897075#Comment_117897075

How do you see them when reversing in?

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117897145#Comment_117897145

By looking around you. You're not stuck in the middle of two parked cars when you're reversing in. That's the whole point.