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Dublin's "homeless" Roma

  • 15-08-2021 9:38am
    Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain

    I was passing through town on Friday night and outside the GPO there was a soup kitchen going. Of those queuing up, maybe 50 people, a good 80% were Roma gypsies. They've been in this country since the late 90's but in the last 5 or so years their numbers seem to have exploded. They dominate Moore St, they used to have two dozen or so of their men headquartered at an electric box at the corner of Henry and O'Connell St, but since Bewleys went bankrupt their new HQ is right outside it, every afternoon there is upwards of 100 of them hanging around the top of North King St.

    What is the deal with them exactly? Studies have shown they have an unemployment rate north of 90%. Most studies you Google claim there are 5000 of them in the country, tbh I'd be surprised if there isn't 5000 of them alone between the Mater Hospital and Gardiner St, they seem to make up a good one in five inner city residents these days. They seem to live either in old shithole houses in this area or in the rundown hostels/ hotels that the state places homeless people in. Is the state paying for their accomadation? Are these people eligible for homeless hubs, which are a fast track to social housing? EU rules state that an EU migrant must have worked for 3 years in another state before becoming eligible for welfare and housing assistance, yet to the layman's eye it would appear some of this lot are getting assistance regardless. Certainly there are plenty of them living in private rentals in the Blanch area, and given how hard it is for somebody with references to acquire a property, one can only assume a Roma family living in a private rental is living there because the council acquired and guaranteed the property/ rent/ damages on their behalf.

    If any of these people are getting housing assistance it is a bigger scandal than the vulture fund bulk buys, but one that absolute spoofers like Eoin O'Broin and Rory Hearne won't touch.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭Jequ0n

    That’s why Sarkozy was a legend …

  • Registered Users Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack

    By “the layman’s eye”, I’m guessing you mean yours, by which it sounds you’ve already convinced yourself and you’re not actually interested in what the story might be with them at all.

    Have you tried asking them yourself? That’s the only reasonable way you’d find out what their deal is, and either you’ll have your suspicions confirmed, or you’ll find out you’re way off the mark.

  • Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain

    There's a family of them living in a council house round the way from me. Thankfully absolutely everybody who grew up in this area currently lives in affordable rental/ purchased housing a stone's throw from their family and friends, so this is a non issue, eh.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack

    I don’t get you?

    I made the point that asking them is the only reasonable way you’ll find out what their deal is, and you’re telling me there’s a family of them living round the way from you. Sure go and ask THEM then what their deal is, or start there and then go to Bewleys or wherever and whenever you see them congregating, and just ask them what their deal is.

    It’s unlikely any of them are posting here, so you’re unlikely to get an answer to your question that’ll truly satisfy your curiosity and tell you what their deal is. That’s why I’m saying the only people who can tell you that is the people themselves.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack

    Tbh I figured the OP was genuinely curious about what their deal is, but having read their subsequent posts, it appears they started this thread only to have yet another pop at “d’immigrants” 🙄

    There’s never enough threads for some of people, they want to be special and start their own thread rather than contribute to the many, many threads that make what turns out to be the same point as every other thread already.

    Anyways, in this instance it’s a good thing the new site doesn’t auto-subscribe to threads, and chances are I’ll never see this thread again unless I specifically go looking for it 😂

  • Registered Users Posts: 17,801 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump

    You should have been keeping your eyes on the road instead of trying to check out her arse as you were passing. Then you wouldn't have crashed!

  • Registered Users Posts: 24,496 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr

    They are Romanian citizens and have the right to travel around the EU, The same as Irish travellers.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Gary Scrod

    Are they still doing the 'tissues on the seat' begging on the DART? That **** was a pain in the hole.

  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,167 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog

    I find most here are Bulgarian and Slovakian, a lot of Romanian too.

  • Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭jay1988

    I don't know any Roma personally so i can't really answer that, do you?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭mikethecop

  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Gary Scrod

    Is begging classed as working? If so, many may be paying their taxes on their begging earnings.

  • Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭jay1988

    What's unsurprising? that I don't know any Roma? I wouldn't have thought so tbh, nice way to dodge the question with a throwaway comment though, I'll make the assumption you don't know any either so. I'd also like to see where this 90% figure comes from too.

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