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Shining a light on 'appalling' Direct Provision system

  • 07-08-2021 11:48pm
    Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭ Tweeter

    Removed, just sick of asylum seekers complaining about accommodation that Irish tax payers supply to them

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭ Cordell

    They may be waiting for years but at least they are safe, so they should be grateful.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭ Cordell

    But at least they are the only ones dropping bombs 😀

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭ Fr Tod Umptious

    The problem is you can't process them at the airport.

    If some family appear at the airport, from Afghanistan or wherever and claim their lives are at risk from the Taliban how is some sort of border agent supposed to verify that.

    I'm not saying the process could not be quicker but if someone is seeking asylum their story needs to be verified.

    It not a quick process to verify that someone calling themselves Joseph Ngogo from Gamgam village in South Sudan born on 8th August 1985 is actually who he claims he is, and that's only the start.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭ Masala

    anyone arriving with no passport should be held in Mountjoy til we establish who they are.

  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭ Heraclius

    I hope you don't drop yours on the tarmac at the airport next time your passing through the airport so!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭ crooked cockney villain

    Speaking of Afghanistan, it has all the makings of the next refugee crisis given the rise of the Taliban currently.

    Now would be a good time for Eoin O'Broin the housing hero to seek an assurance from housing minister Darragh O'Brien that under no circumstance will Afghans be brought to Ireland and given a council/ Part V/ HAP/ long term lease home within three months in the middle of a housing crisis, in the same manner over 1000 homes were handed out to Syrians since 2015.

    But he won't. Because when you believe in nothing like him and his mob it's easier to rant and rave about vulture funds rather than go after issues that are closer to home.

  • Registered Users Posts: 30,635 ✭✭✭✭ listermint

    Direct provision is an appalling system . Anyone who thinks keeping people up to a decade in a **** communal complex on subsistence provisions and thinks thats grand really needs to have a bit of introspection.

    The asylum process needs to be sped up and funded properly. If it was it would probably save the tax payer millions in renting out large old hotels and the likes of mosney.

    Instead it's under funded and we throw money at the private sector to house these people. It's for profit right now and that's ridiculous.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭ Masala

    i’ll Just show my Driving License, PSC Card, Work ID all with Photo ID

  • Registered Users Posts: 587 ✭✭✭ Heraclius

    Ah now, you set up your system to be passports only. Unfortunately its off to Mountjoy with you based on your own rules. I'm terribly sorry! I'm sure the system will clear up the situation but unfortunately there's a bit of a delay so you'll be processed in about a year.

  • Registered Users Posts: 30,635 ✭✭✭✭ listermint

    The system works fine . Then in the next sentence saying a different approach would be reasonable...

    See what I mean.

  • Registered Users Posts: 30,635 ✭✭✭✭ listermint

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭ mikemac2

    How many appeals should be allowed? Is it reasonable to appeal for years and years when your application is rejected?

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭ Stovepipe

    People get exported home/out of Ireland every day, you just don't see it on the news or hear about it on social media. Anyone who works in our airports,who has a role in Immigration or the Gardai or Airport Police will confirm this.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭ Peterteanh

    Do you have the figures for number of failed asylum seekers deported? I can't find them anywhere.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭ 0ph0rce0

    What does she want? A toilet each? hahaha.

    Sure most people I know only have the one bog in the gaff.

  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭ Rket4000

    The system needs to be changed. For example a time frame of a couple of months at most where the application for asylum must be processed; one appeal permitted (to be assessed within one month) then either you're in and you can get on with your life outside of direct provision or you leave the country. That way people wouldn't be left living in DP indefinitely and if they are genuinely seeking asylum they should be happy to be accommodated

  • Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭ moceri

    Part of the problem is the endless rounds of appeals. If a decision has been made to refuse asylum, the applicant has a right to endlessly appeal the decision. Such a system leads to situations where people can spend up to 14 years in direct provision. A maximum of two appeals should be allowed and a two year time frame on a decision. Unsuccessful applicants should be rejected to allow room for those with more merit. There are not unlimited resources for asylum provision. I am personally aware of an applicant from Cameroon who has come to Ireland with one of her daughters who has complex medical needs as she feels she can access better healthcare for her here. Her husband and other children are living back in Cameroon. He has a good job. They chose Ireland for their daughters healthcare needs.

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