I'm done with Ireland - Which EU Country to move to

Thelonious Monk

punisher5112 wrote: »

They're having a huge huge issue with the migrants they have given free pass to enter, many villages/towns now have less actual locals then they do Syrians and so on...
Have friends over there and there are many no go areas....

Funny when you think the Germans were set on killing and now they can't get enough people into their country, this will and is back firing big time.... Not talking about the killing part.

Pretty sure the no go areas are a right wing fantasy, they say the same about parts of Sweden but it's fiction. I really doubt there are any areas in Sweden or Germany as rough as the rough parts of Dublin, maybe I'm being naive.

Thelonious Monk

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

You're generalising, both about France and Ireland.

Many urban areas of France have their own housing crisis. Sure, you might be able to get cheap accommodation in rural areas (as you can in Ireland), but will you get a job and services?

Yeah I love France it's the most beautiful country but also the most boring place in Europe. Even trying to get a drink at night can be almost impossible in reasonably sized towns. Go over the border to Spain and it's a totally different story and they're a lot friendlier and open to foreigners.

cgcsb

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Pretty sure the no go areas are a right wing fantasy, they say the same about parts of Sweden but it's fiction. I really doubt there are any areas in Sweden or Germany as rough as the rough parts of Dublin, maybe I'm being naive.

Lol, yeah you're being naive. But you have a point in that Italy is a lot worse than Germany for this. Much of Milan is no-go after dark, and that's the wealthy part of Italy.

ImAHappyCamper

Switzerland. It's expensive but the wages are absolutely savage. I'm living in Bad Ragaz close to the border with Liechtenstein and I love it here. I've heard Netherlands is quite nice too.

partyguinness

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yeah I love France it's the most beautiful country but also the most boring place in Europe. Even trying to get a drink at night can be almost impossible in reasonably sized towns. Go over the border to Spain and it's a totally different story and they're a lot friendlier and open to foreigners.

Yes...it would be Catalonia all day long for me.

cgcsb

Do posters realise there's French people in France? why subject the OP to that?

punisher5112

punisher5112 wrote: »

They're having a huge huge issue with the migrants they have given free pass to enter, many villages/towns now have less actual locals then they do Syrians and so on...
Have friends over there and there are many no go areas.....

Rubbish.
Fear mongering

Hello Moto GP

ImAHappyCamper wrote: »

Switzerland. It's expensive but the wages are absolutely savage. I'm living in Bad Ragaz close to the border with Liechtenstein and I love it here. I've heard Netherlands is quite nice too.

Will look into Switzerland, was there before, beautiful country but expensive.

branie2

Mountshannon is also popular with the Germans

Zebra3

Switzerland is not in the EU, so OP not allowed move there.

furiousox

Didn't Denmark top some poll about being the best country in the world to live in?

Thelonious Monk

bubblypop wrote: »

Rubbish.
Fear mongering

It's gas how much some people want this to be true

dxhound2005

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

You're generalising, both about France and Ireland.

Many urban areas of France have their own housing crisis. Sure, you might be able to get cheap accommodation in rural areas (as you can in Ireland), but will you get a job and services?

France's Civil Service costs is equal to a quarter of its GDP and a employs fifth of the country's workforce.

France occupies number 25 on the 2021 World Index of Healthcare Innovation, which ranks healcare systems by Quality, Choice, Science & Technology and Fiscal Sustainability. Ireland is at number 4.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with France, just that it doesn't meet the criteria that you set out in your own OP.

Our public service numbers are around 18%, which seems to be normal. Much the same in the UK except NI which is over 30%. So we can say that what ever problems people have in their lives are about four times as likely to be caused by poor performance in the private sector.

branie2

furiousox wrote: »

Didn't Denmark top some poll about being the best country in the world to live in?

It also has the best lager in the world

The Mighty Quinn

branie2 wrote: »

It also has the best lager in the world

Probably.

Thelonious Monk

branie2 wrote: »

It also has the best lager in the world

I was there a few years ago and Tuborg and Carlsberg there are 5.2% or something. It's also not as expensive as I thought it would be, Copenhagen has all of these little bars called Bodegas, full of old men, it was 2 or 3 euro a beer and you could smoke.

Gregor Samsa

punisher5112 wrote: »

They're having [Germany] a huge huge issue with the migrants they have given free pass to enter.

You realise that the OP is seeking to become a migrant and be given a free pass to enter another country?

whisky_galore

What's the definition of an EU "no go" area?
How many murders, kidnappings, stabbings?
I seriously doubt it's anything like Somalia or Iraq.

whisky_galore

thomil wrote: »

Can you point me in the right direction there? Seriously. We're desperately trying to hire Germans, but we just can't seem to find suitable candidates. Getting people to move from Germany to Ireland is nigh on impossible these days, no matter how generous the relocation package, and finding ones here equally so. That's not just an issue at my company by the way, I keep hearing this across the industry.

I think he means West Cork and the English/Dutch/German mix that settled there from the 70s onwards. Basically pensioners and people shoving on retirement age now.

ClosedAccountFuzzy

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yeah I love France it's the most beautiful country but also the most boring place in Europe. Even trying to get a drink at night can be almost impossible in reasonably sized towns. Go over the border to Spain and it's a totally different story and they're a lot friendlier and open to foreigners.

France is fine, but you need fluent French to function and you need to be willing to accept that bar and nightlife isn't how they usually socialise. A lot of rural France can be very boring if you don't have a network to plug into.

Also in terms of housing costs, it depends where. There are plenty of cities in France with poor quality, over priced rental accommodation and that are having serious issues with speculative investors. Bordeaux springs to mind.

Quality of life in Paris etc also isn't great unless you're on big money.

Plenty of urban France isn't all that idyllic either. There are areas of most cities that are just rough and ugly.

Rural France is lovely, if you're into rural France and it's also not possible to generalise - there are big differences between regions.

The weather is a big plus and if you are willing to dive into french culture and get active into community stuff, you might really enjoy the place, but you really do need to do that to see France properly.

The other aspect is that the idyllic summer holiday 25-30°C rural France can be a very different place in the depths of a cold, wet winter and a lot of places I found can feel very grey in winter in a way that they don't really feel here as we tend to use a lot of colours, lights and have a social life that works in that weather.

Some parts of France (notably where property is cheapest) can also feel like they're in hibernation in the depths of winter, and a lot of more remote rural areas are populated largely by French domestic tourism and maisons secondaires (holiday homes.) They can be very, very quiet and take on a different character in winter.

The Atlantic and Northern coasts have winters that are much like Ireland and inland it's a *lot* cooler. The only area with good weather almost all year it's the Mediterranean coast, but that's also very expensive and always in demand.

growleaves

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Romania if you are a man professional, Italy if you are a woman.

Why?

Zebra3

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I was there a few years ago and Tuborg and Carlsberg there are 5.2% or something. It's also not as expensive as I thought it would be, Copenhagen has all of these little bars called Bodegas, full of old men, it was 2 or 3 euro a beer and you could smoke.

Bizarrely in Denmark if the bar is below a certain size you can legally smoke in it!!

Ergo when anti smoking legislation came in, some owners started decreasing the size of their bar!!

ClosedAccountFuzzy

I couldn't stand smokey bars anymore. It always seems really like I've stepped into a time warp when I encounter it somewhere.

I think when you get used to smoke free bars, you just become so much more aware of smoke.

We'll be 20 years smoke free in 2024.

It's at the stage where you'd need to be over 35 to have really experienced smokey nightlife here.

NIMAN

furiousox wrote: »

Didn't Denmark top some poll about being the best country in the world to live in?

We always come near the top of these polls, but the op thinks he's living in a sh1t hole.

ClosedAccountFuzzy

NIMAN wrote: »

We always come near the top of these polls, but the op thinks he's living in a sh1t hole.

Sometimes people need a change of scenery. When you're somewhere for a long time you start to see every imperfection and bump.

In a new place you'll often only see the facade and don't bother the cracks.

A change is as good as a rest and familiarity breeds contempt.

Badly Drunk Boy

thomil wrote: »

Can you point me in the right direction there? Seriously. We're desperately trying to hire Germans, but we just can't seem to find suitable candidates. Getting people to move from Germany to Ireland is nigh on impossible these days, no matter how generous the relocation package, and finding ones here equally so. That's not just an issue at my company by the way, I keep hearing this across the industry.

There were 11,531 German living in Ireland for the 2016 census. I can't open (at the moment) the document that gives a better breakdown by area.

Kermit.de.frog

Hello Moto GP wrote: »

For a professional what country would you move to and why? Australia and US are out of the question. I'm 28 BTW.

Germoney

punisher5112

Believe whatever bull ye want, I'm giving my educted opinion.

I've been in Germany a good few times, wife has family over there too.

It's changed a lot in certain parts and some of the family have been attacked on the street.
Obviously this can happen anywhere but it definitely has changed.

Not according to my German friends, they say it's all propaganda.

Timmyr

cgcsb wrote: »

If you want to leave Europe entirely and the USA and Australia are out, then New Zealand (but almost everything there is outdated by our standards, I think you can still swipe and sign for card transactions and pasta is 'foreign food'.

I live in NZ and this is completely false, we are miles ahead of Ireland, especially with our banking!
I havent seen cash in years and our food and restaurant scene is amazing