I'm done with Ireland - Which EU Country to move to

Hello Moto GP

I'm done with the bolloxology which is our government, I cannot listen to them any longer and the housing crisis with everything going on with them. They promise everything and deliver nothing. Overpaid Public Sector staff, outdated health system, housing crisis, Covid management and could go on and on.

For a professional what country would you move to and why? Australia and US are out of the question. I'm 28 BTW.

D3V!L

Any European country. They all have greener grass :rolleyes:

Gregor Samsa

Throw a dart in the map and pick one.

Then spend some time there and realise that every other country has its problems too, and Ireland is nothing special in that regard.

branie2

Sweden, very modern in the EU

mickuhaha

Germany.

BillyBiggs

Hello Moto GP wrote: »

I'm done with the bolloxology which is our government, I cannot listen to them any longer and the housing crisis with everything going on with them. They promise everything and deliver nothing. Overpaid Public Sector staff, outdated health system, housing crisis, Covid management and could go on and on.

For a professional what country would you move to and why? Australia and US are out of the question. I'm 28 BTW.

Genuine question O.P. what is your profession? If it’s IT for example anywhere will be happy to have you and you could work through English in most E.U. capitals...

Thelonious Monk

Your options will probably be quite limited to where you'll be able to find decent paying work that will enable you to have a much better life. Often work is only available in busy cities where it's hard to get accommodation and not that much cheaper than here.

DarkJager21

Netherlands - you can finish work and go for a crepe and a bong

Finland

biko

Luxembourg

ablelocks

don't forget to turn off the immersion before you leave...

Church on Tuesday

Ballyhaunis.

T-Maxx

Cork

dxhound2005

Romania if you are a man professional, Italy if you are a woman.

sprucemoose

DarkJager21 wrote: »

Netherlands - you can finish work and go for a crepe and a bong

schmoke and a pancake?

DarkJager21

DarkJager21 wrote: »

Netherlands - you can finish work and go for a crepe and a bong

And don't forget looking at these lovely lovely living ladies in the shop windows

Hello Moto GP

Germany actually seems to be one of the best.

punisher5112

mickuhaha wrote: »

Germany.

They're having a huge huge issue with the migrants they have given free pass to enter, many villages/towns now have less actual locals then they do Syrians and so on...
Have friends over there and there are many no go areas....

Funny when you think the Germans were set on killing and now they can't get enough people into their country, this will and is back firing big time.... Not talking about the killing part.

branie2

And put mayonnaise on your chips

punisher5112

Spain or Portugal, at a push France and maybe Germany as was there a few times it was a nice place but what I'm hearing isn't good these days.

Hello Moto GP

I say i'd be home after a month if i went to amsterdams, too many distractions haha

dxhound2005

punisher5112 wrote: »

They're having a huge huge issue with the migrants they have given free pass to enter, many villages/towns now have less actual locals then they do Syrians and so on...
Have friends over there and there are many no go areas....

Funny when you think the Germans were set on killing and now they can't get enough people into their country, this will and is back firing big time.... Not talking about the killing part.

There are more Germans in parts of Cork than locals.

Hello Moto GP

France looks good actually. Cheap accommodation and decent country.

daheff

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Ballyhaunis.

no longer a member of the EU since P Flynn couldn't afford to run 3 households...........

partyguinness

Hello Moto GP wrote: »

I'm done with the bolloxology which is our government, I cannot listen to them any longer and the housing crisis with everything going on with them. They promise everything and deliver nothing. Overpaid Public Sector staff, outdated health system, housing crisis, Covid management and could go on and on.

For a professional what country would you move to and why? Australia and US are out of the question. I'm 28 BTW.

Seriously...you think you have it bad. I have had to put with a Tory Government for the past 10 years now led by Boris Fcuking Johnson...and to top it off there is a very real risk they will win the Euros.

I would go farming in the Andes.

dxhound2005

Hello Moto GP wrote: »

France looks good actually. Cheap accommodation and decent country.

Somewhere on the French German border would be perfect.

branie2

Spain or Portugal for the sun

Bulgaria

cgcsb

Hello Moto GP wrote: »

I'm done with the bolloxology which is our government, I cannot listen to them any longer and the housing crisis with everything going on with them. They promise everything and deliver nothing. Overpaid Public Sector staff, outdated health system, housing crisis, Covid management and could go on and on.

For a professional what country would you move to and why? Australia and US are out of the question. I'm 28 BTW.

Depends on what you do for work and what you're looking for? If your concerns are egalitarianism in health and housing, I'd say maybe a smaller city in the Netherlands or Scandanavia. But in Scandanavia could potentially kill you from boredom (with the exception of Copenhagen). Vienna Austria (but no other part of Austria if you value open mindedness at all) is a good shout, you'll have to learn German for any decent paying job though.

If you want to leave Europe entirely and the USA and Australia are out, then New Zealand (but almost everything there is outdated by our standards, I think you can still swipe and sign for card transactions and pasta is 'foreign food'.

If you want to earn a few quid it completely depends on your profession but Dubai, Saudi and Singapore usually come out on top. But of course these places are as brutal and backwards as they are outdated. In terms of healthcare and housing, it's how much you have to spend and that's it, no exceptions.

The Mighty Quinn

branie2 wrote: »

And put mayonnaise on your chips

I seen 'em do it, man. They fuckin' drown 'em in that shit.

Gregor Samsa

Hello Moto GP wrote: »

France looks good actually. Cheap accommodation and decent country.

You're generalising, both about France and Ireland.

Many urban areas of France have their own housing crisis. Sure, you might be able to get cheap accommodation in rural areas (as you can in Ireland), but will you get a job and services?

France's Civil Service costs is equal to a quarter of its GDP and a employs fifth of the country's workforce.

France occupies number 25 on the 2021 World Index of Healthcare Innovation, which ranks healcare systems by Quality, Choice, Science & Technology and Fiscal Sustainability. Ireland is at number 4.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with France, just that it doesn't meet the criteria that you set out in your own OP.

Thelonious Monk

punisher5112 wrote: »

They're having a huge huge issue with the migrants they have given free pass to enter, many villages/towns now have less actual locals then they do Syrians and so on...
Have friends over there and there are many no go areas....

Funny when you think the Germans were set on killing and now they can't get enough people into their country, this will and is back firing big time.... Not talking about the killing part.

Pretty sure the no go areas are a right wing fantasy, they say the same about parts of Sweden but it's fiction. I really doubt there are any areas in Sweden or Germany as rough as the rough parts of Dublin, maybe I'm being naive.

Thelonious Monk

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

You're generalising, both about France and Ireland.

Many urban areas of France have their own housing crisis. Sure, you might be able to get cheap accommodation in rural areas (as you can in Ireland), but will you get a job and services?

Yeah I love France it's the most beautiful country but also the most boring place in Europe. Even trying to get a drink at night can be almost impossible in reasonably sized towns. Go over the border to Spain and it's a totally different story and they're a lot friendlier and open to foreigners.

cgcsb

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Pretty sure the no go areas are a right wing fantasy, they say the same about parts of Sweden but it's fiction. I really doubt there are any areas in Sweden or Germany as rough as the rough parts of Dublin, maybe I'm being naive.

Lol, yeah you're being naive. But you have a point in that Italy is a lot worse than Germany for this. Much of Milan is no-go after dark, and that's the wealthy part of Italy.

ImAHappyCamper

Switzerland. It's expensive but the wages are absolutely savage. I'm living in Bad Ragaz close to the border with Liechtenstein and I love it here. I've heard Netherlands is quite nice too.

partyguinness

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yeah I love France it's the most beautiful country but also the most boring place in Europe. Even trying to get a drink at night can be almost impossible in reasonably sized towns. Go over the border to Spain and it's a totally different story and they're a lot friendlier and open to foreigners.

Yes...it would be Catalonia all day long for me.

cgcsb

Do posters realise there's French people in France? why subject the OP to that?

thomil

punisher5112 wrote: »

They're having a huge huge issue with the migrants they have given free pass to enter, many villages/towns now have less actual locals then they do Syrians and so on...
Have friends over there and there are many no go areas....

Ah, that old chestnut again. I'm German myself, have more than enough contacts at home, including in some of these so-called "no-go areas", and their reports are in complete contrast to whatever it is you're spreading. It looks like your friends need to stop reading Bild and actually get out onto the streets once in a while. If things were really as bad as you make them out to be, there should be no shortage of Germans willing to emigrate, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

There are more Germans in parts of Cork than locals.

Can you point me in the right direction there? Seriously. We're desperately trying to hire Germans, but we just can't seem to find suitable candidates. Getting people to move from Germany to Ireland is nigh on impossible these days, no matter how generous the relocation package, and finding ones here equally so. That's not just an issue at my company by the way, I keep hearing this across the industry.

punisher5112

punisher5112 wrote: »

They're having a huge huge issue with the migrants they have given free pass to enter, many villages/towns now have less actual locals then they do Syrians and so on...
Have friends over there and there are many no go areas.....

Rubbish.
Fear mongering

Hello Moto GP

ImAHappyCamper wrote: »

Switzerland. It's expensive but the wages are absolutely savage. I'm living in Bad Ragaz close to the border with Liechtenstein and I love it here. I've heard Netherlands is quite nice too.

Will look into Switzerland, was there before, beautiful country but expensive.

branie2

Mountshannon is also popular with the Germans

Zebra3

Switzerland is not in the EU, so OP not allowed move there.

furiousox

Didn't Denmark top some poll about being the best country in the world to live in?

Thelonious Monk

bubblypop wrote: »

Rubbish.
Fear mongering

It's gas how much some people want this to be true

dxhound2005

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

You're generalising, both about France and Ireland.

Many urban areas of France have their own housing crisis. Sure, you might be able to get cheap accommodation in rural areas (as you can in Ireland), but will you get a job and services?

France's Civil Service costs is equal to a quarter of its GDP and a employs fifth of the country's workforce.

France occupies number 25 on the 2021 World Index of Healthcare Innovation, which ranks healcare systems by Quality, Choice, Science & Technology and Fiscal Sustainability. Ireland is at number 4.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with France, just that it doesn't meet the criteria that you set out in your own OP.

Our public service numbers are around 18%, which seems to be normal. Much the same in the UK except NI which is over 30%. So we can say that what ever problems people have in their lives are about four times as likely to be caused by poor performance in the private sector.

branie2

furiousox wrote: »

Didn't Denmark top some poll about being the best country in the world to live in?

It also has the best lager in the world

The Mighty Quinn

branie2 wrote: »

It also has the best lager in the world

Probably.

Thelonious Monk

branie2 wrote: »

It also has the best lager in the world

I was there a few years ago and Tuborg and Carlsberg there are 5.2% or something. It's also not as expensive as I thought it would be, Copenhagen has all of these little bars called Bodegas, full of old men, it was 2 or 3 euro a beer and you could smoke.

Gregor Samsa

punisher5112 wrote: »

They're having [Germany] a huge huge issue with the migrants they have given free pass to enter.

You realise that the OP is seeking to become a migrant and be given a free pass to enter another country?

whisky_galore

What's the definition of an EU "no go" area?
How many murders, kidnappings, stabbings?
I seriously doubt it's anything like Somalia or Iraq.

whisky_galore

thomil wrote: »

Can you point me in the right direction there? Seriously. We're desperately trying to hire Germans, but we just can't seem to find suitable candidates. Getting people to move from Germany to Ireland is nigh on impossible these days, no matter how generous the relocation package, and finding ones here equally so. That's not just an issue at my company by the way, I keep hearing this across the industry.

I think he means West Cork and the English/Dutch/German mix that settled there from the 70s onwards. Basically pensioners and people shoving on retirement age now.