All the government hate on F.B

pgj2015

I find people who hate the government are either long term unemployed or have a $hit job. For some reason that is the governments fault, not the fact they are lazy or thick, or both.

For Forks Sake

Deleted User wrote: »

Just aswell,they gave emsleves a wee payrise today then :yawn:

https://www.joe.ie/news/tds-basic-salary-rise-e100000-today-725406

They didn't "give themselves a payrise", it's linked to increments awarded to civil/public servants and comes into affect at the same time.

The practice of TDs deciding on their own pay was gotten rid of after the sh1tehawkery that went on in the Bertie Ahern era.

whisky_galore

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Most people do hate them, it's just the bloody oddballs on boards who seem to love them & look forward to their property tax bill arriving

Funny that "most people" voted for the ones currently wielding actual power. Democracy is a bitch.

Wonder why "most people" didn't vote en masse for the free money parties; SF, the socialist alphabet soup parties or the right wingers with mad heads up on them??

buried

whisky_galore wrote: »

Funny that "most people" voted for the ones currently wielding actual power. Democracy is a bitch.

Wonder why "most people" didn't vote en masse for the free money parties; SF, the socialist alphabet soup parties or the right wingers with mad heads up on them??

Actually, they didn't. Check out the individual percentages of the votes for the individual parties in 2020.

Strumms

quokula wrote: »

Unfortunately SF have learned a lot from the populist playbook that gave Trump and Brexit so much success, utilising social media to spread their propaganda and misinformation and people have fallen for it.

Simple, comforting lies are always more appealing than complex truths.

This, and if some individual is rambling on about SF or on their propaganda wagon / machine they’d be getting deleted or muted or whatever.... I don’t go on FB to have to sift through all that crap.

usernamegoes

buried wrote: »

Actually, they didn't. Check out the individual percentages of the votes for the individual parties in 2020.

It's nonsense like this and the "7th-Count-Leo" or "Not My Taoiseach" bull that is very worrying. SF's terrorist links are enough of a treat to our democracy without all their supporters thinking our government is illegitimate regardless of how much you dislike them.

buried

usernamegoes wrote: »

It's nonsense like this and the "7th-Count-Leo" or "Not My Taoiseach" bull that is very worrying. SF's terrorist links are enough of a treat to our democracy without all their supporters thinking our government is illegitimate regardless of how much you dislike them.

What's nonsense about it? Check the actual individual percentage votes for the individual political parties, and while you are at it check out what exactly those political parties promised they would never do, like going into any sort of coalition with each other 24 hours before the actual vote, instead of trying to label me or anyone else as a terrorist or whatever else you are having, while you sit there perplexed why everyone isn't sitting in a blissful utopia like yourself.

usernamegoes

buried wrote: »

What's nonsense about it? Check the actual individual percentage votes for the individual political parties, and while you are at it check out what exactly those political parties promised they would never do, like going into any sort of coalition with each other 24 hours before the actual vote, instead of trying to label me or anyone else as a terrorist or whatever else you are having, while you sit there perplexed why everyone isn't sitting in a blissful utopia like yourself.

The government parties have the most votes. It's basic stuff. Our system encourages coalition governments.

SF have a convicted terrorist as a TD so I will certainly label them terrorists. If the shoe fits...

buried

usernamegoes wrote: »

The government parties have the most votes. It's basic stuff. Our system encourages coalition governments.

Telling the truth is basic stuff too, which the main two parties in FF and FG failed to do when they both stated they would never go into coalition with each other literally 24 hours before the election.

Stop equating my posts with 'Terrorism' just because I am calling you out on what actually happened. Its not clever and unfortunately for you, it doesn't work.

For Forks Sake

For Forks Sake wrote: »

They didn't "give themselves a payrise", it's linked to increments awarded to civil/public servants and comes into affect at the same time.

The practice of TDs deciding on their own pay was gotten rid of after the sh1tehawkery that went on in the Bertie Ahern era.

Hmm.

Members of Cabinet signed off on the measures on Thursday to restore the wages of civil servants including TDs

Looks.to.me.they given emselves a payrise anyway

I see sheep

The Government is absolutey useless.

usernamegoes

buried wrote: »

Telling the truth is basic stuff too, which the main two parties in FF and FG failed to do when they both stated they would never go into coalition with each other literally 24 hours before the election.

Stop equating my posts with 'Terrorism' just because I am calling you out on what actually happened. Its not clever and unfortunately for you, it doesn't work.

I said SF is a party linked to terrorists. People who vote for them sadly support terrorism or don't care they are terrorists. That is indisputable.

For Forks Sake

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmm.




Looks.to.me.they given emselves a payrise anyway

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/pay-boost-for-higher-level-civil-and-public-service-staff-including-tds-1.4608071

Higher-level civil and public service personnel including TDs are to receive a pay boost from Thursday with the restoration of cuts made previously under financial emergency legislation.

Civil and public servants earning between €70,000 and €150,000 will benefit from the final rowing back of austerity-era pay cuts from the beginning of July as provided for under the Public Service Pay and Pensions Act in 2017.

It is understood that on average the grades concerned will see their pay increase by between 1.5 per cent and 2 per cent as part of the new restoration process.

The pay rate for TDs will increase from €98,113, which it reached at the end of last October, to €100,191 – the rate that applied in 2008 prior to the application of various cuts under financial emergency legislation.

The pay of TDs is linked to the principal officer grade in the civil service.

usernamegoes

usernamegoes wrote: »

I said SF is a party linked to terrorists. People who vote for them sadly support terrorism or don't care they are terrorists. That is indisputable.

Arent all the main parties linked back to terrorism??

Afaik fg are even linked to facism of the 1930s?....the logical outwork of your position is yous view fg voters as support facism,or they dont care about its fasist links?

For Forks Sake

For Forks Sake wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/pay-boost-for-higher-level-civil-and-public-service-staff-including-tds-1.4608071

is it true,they wouldnt have gotten this pay rise without cabinet signing off?



Beat about bush all yous want mate,its obvious to me they given emselves a payrise anyway,

TefalBrain

The hate is well earned. They are a disgrace and history will not be kind.

buried

usernamegoes wrote: »

Who equated your posts to terrorism. I said SF is a party linked to terrorists. People who vote for them sadly support terrorism or don't care they are terrorists. That is indisputable.

I don't give two monkeys f**ks about Sinn Fein or any other utterly inept and failed political entity that exists on this island. They are all liars to me, all out for their own paycheck for the drama. But you did equate my first post with trying to show me being a Sinn Fein supporter, which is bull$hit. All I did was state the truth about the numbers, the facts. Which is this, FF and FG didn't collect the majority of the individual vote, the Green Party run by their superiors in Germany sure as Hell didn't collect it either. But now we are stuck with them and none of them are in any position to lead. They don't want to lead. They are only out for their own ignorant, selfish and egotistical end.

For Forks Sake

Deleted User wrote: »

is it true,they wouldnt have gotten this pay rise without cabinet signing off?



Beat about bush all yous want mate,its obvious to me they given emselves a payrise anyway,

TD's pay is linked to Civil Service rates.
Civil Service are due increment as laid out in the 2017 agreement.
By default TDs rate moves in line.

Would you want to be the TD to inform civil servants that they aren't getting their agreed pay? Instant career suicide.

usernamegoes

Deleted User wrote: »

Arent all the main parties linked back to terrorism??

Afaik fg are even linked to facism of the 1930s?....the logical outwork of your position is yous view fg voters as support facism,or they dont care about its fasist links?

Which member of FG is a convicted bomber? You're right, I wouldn't have voted for any member of FG back then who was linked to a blueshirt. Same as I wouldn't have voted for a member of the US democratic party who supported slavery but I would vote for some of them in the party now.

Maybe if SF purges its terrorists TDs. Sniper at work signs. Up the RA bull**** then they can become a respectable party.

Fann Linn

usernamegoes wrote: »

Which member of FG is a convicted bomber? You're right, I wouldn't have voted for any member of FG back then who was linked to a blueshirt. Same as I wouldn't have voted for a member of the US democratic party who supported slavery but I would vote for some of them in the party now.

Maybe if SF purges its terrorists TDs. Sniper at work signs. Up the RA bull**** then they can become a respectable party.

Has he served his time?

usernamegoes

Fann Linn wrote: »

Has he served his time?

Who cares if he has? He's a bomber!

Larry Murphy served his time too but I wouldn't invite him over for dinner! Jesus chirst pal! This is a sickening take!

Fann Linn

usernamegoes wrote: »

Who cares if he has? He's a bomber!

Larry Murphy served his time! Jesus chirst pal! This is a sickening take!

Thanks. So he served his debt to society as laid down by the justice system.

usernamegoes

Fann Linn wrote: »

Thanks. So he served his debt to society as laid down by the justice system.

That's a very low bar. Presumably you'll have larry murphy over to your house.

Luckily who I vote for isn't determined by the justice system but my own morals that blowing up innocent people is wrong.

usernamegoes

usernamegoes wrote: »

Which member of FG is a convicted bomber? You're right, I wouldn't have voted for any member of FG back then who was linked to a blueshirt. Same as I wouldn't have voted for a member of the US democratic party who supported slavery but I would vote for some of them in the party now.

Maybe if SF purges its terrorists TDs. Sniper at work signs. Up the RA bull**** then they can become a respectable party.

Who anywhere said a member of fg was convicted terrorist?

Mate to me its the obvious outwork of yous position to say yous view fg supporters as facists....like fg put an ex ira member of labour into government and were happy to do so




Like your free to dislike the shinners,but your being played for a mug,in light of the above....the war is over with quarter of a century,its not coming back,calling anyone who votes for opposition terrorist supporter,only reflects poorly upon one party ,and its not the one working to keep the GFA afloat

Fann Linn

usernamegoes wrote: »

That's a very low bar. Presumably you'll have larry murphy over to your house.

Luckily who I vote for isn't determined by the justice system but my own morals that blowing up innocent people is wrong.

So you hold grudges grand.

usernamegoes

Deleted User wrote: »

Who anywhere said a member of fg was convicted terrorist?

Mate to me its the obvious outwork of yous position to say yous view fg supporters as facists....like fg put an ex ira member of labour into government and were happy to do so




Like your free to dislike the shinners,but your played for a mug,in light of the above....the war is over with quarter of a century,its not coming back,calling anyone who votes for opposition terrorist supporter,only reflects poorly upon one party ,and its not the one working to keep the GFA afloat

There was no war. They were and are terrorists.

usernamegoes

Fann Linn wrote: »

So you hold grudges grand.

Yes. And you do too unless you come out and say that Larry Murphy is fit to have dinner in your house and he deserves to be respected as it he didn't rape and murder 8 women.

usernamegoes

usernamegoes wrote: »

There was no war. They were and are terrorists.

perhaps this belongs on thread about the british army??...to my eyes it was a war anyway



Its truely bizzare people could look on at burning of bombay street,bloody sunday and ballymurphy and conclude those who dared to stand up for emselves and defend their communities as wrong. and terrorists.....i dont understand the taught process involved to arrive at this position

usernamegoes

Deleted User wrote: »

perhaps this belongs on thread about the british army??...to my eyes it was a war anyway



Its truely bizzare people could look on at burning of bombay street,bloody sunday and ballymurphy and conclude those who dared to stand up for emselves and defend their communities as wrong. and terrorists.....i dont understand the taught process involved to arrive at this position

Well there it is. Evidence you support terrorism. Congrats, I knew I could smell it off you. Goodnight and good luck.

Fann Linn

usernamegoes wrote: »

Yes. And you do too unless you come out and say that Larry Murphy is fit to have dinner in your house and he deserves to be respects as it he didn't rape and murder 8 women.

I wouldn't let a convicted bomber through my front door let alone Larry Murphy, however, where I differ from you is that I understand the State investigated , prosecuted and sentenced both of the above & Released both as they served their time.

I respect this State's application of the law. You appear to have a problem with it.
Is it the death penalty you're after?