Sugar

BENDYBINN

Is sugar as sweet as it was? I don’t think so.
Two spoons in my coffee now.....before it was only one.
They’re diluting sugar now father......

olestoepoke

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Is sugar as sweet as it was? I don’t think so.
Two spoons in my coffee now.....before it was only one.
They’re diluting sugar now father......

Sugar is poison give it up and you'll feel better.

Doylers

Gave up sugar years and years ago. Don't miss it at all, my tea was paired with a lot of chocolate biscuits to aid in the transition lol

You can't really remove sugar from your diet can you? I mean, it's in nearly everything. You could cut it down but cut it out completely?

TheValeyard

Nah, sugar is awesome. Love sugar.

Take no sugar for a while then back to one, it'll be sweet again

YFlyer

You are saying sucrose has changed? Perhaps it is Glucose or Lactose?


Which is the sweetest?

Maybe use Fructose.

Badly Drunk Boy

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Is sugar as sweet as it was? I don’t think so.
Two spoons in my coffee now.....before it was only one.
They’re diluting sugar now father......

It's the Covid lockdowns that are causing all of this. Did you see the thread about vodka and beer being weaker now too, even if they have the same alcohol content?

Montage of Feck

Just remember, the sweet is never as sweet without the sour.

JustAThought

I tried to totally cut out sugar - all pleasures verboten - fizzy drinks, biscuits, cake, jellies, chocolate, liters of lucozade - I found myself totally craving Lild Smoked Turkey and buying, roasting & eating a M&S meal deal roast chicken a week. One day I turned the Lidl pack of amoked turkey ingredients over.. the second ingredient was SUGAR. The second ingredient in the M&S roast chicken turned out to be caramel - reduced sugar mixed with sweetened butter.

Sugar is IMPOSSIBLE to avoid unless your a corn sucking vegan or suchlike. Just as well its so tasty.

Montage of Feck

JustAThought wrote: »

I tried to totally cut out sugar - all pleasures verboten - fizzy drinks, biscuits, cake, jellies, chocolate, liters of lucozade - I found myself totally craving Lild Smoked Turkey and buying, roasting & eating a M&S meal deal roast chicken a week. One day I turned the Lidl pack of amoked turkey ingredients over.. the second ingredient was SUGAR. The second ingredient in the M&S roast chicken turned out to be caramel - reduced sugar mixed with sweetened butter.

Sugar is IMPOSSIBLE to avoid unless your a corn sucking vegan or suchlike. Just as well its so tasty.

There is sugar in corn.

Capt'n Midnight

YFlyer wrote: »

You are saying sucrose has changed? Perhaps it is Glucose or Lactose?


Which is the sweetest?

Maybe use Fructose.

don't use fructose, it's evil

AllGunsBlazing

Try switching to cocaine, op.

I did. And apart from the bugs crawling beneath my skin and the CIA trying to read my brainwaves, I've never felt better.

Green Mile

I don’t add sugar to anything because it’s in everything already.
When I seen the bad side of diabetes, people fingers rotting and falling off, it really turned me off excess sugar.
I try keep sugar intake to less than 100% of the daily recommended intake, it’s harder than you’d think.

Don’t ate nuttin and you’ll be ok.

ElJaguar

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Is sugar as sweet as it was? I don’t think so.
Two spoons in my coffee now.....before it was only one.
They’re diluting sugar now father......

First you get the sugar. Then you get the power. Then you get the Women.

Real Life

Its because you've become so used to it.

Also keep in mind, despite what some people are saying in this thread Sugar is not poisonous but should be used in moderation just like anything.

Many people say they cut out sugar etc but are still having fruit and other foods that contain it naturally, and that's no harm but don't be thinking you are having no sugar, your body still digests it the same way.

Greyfox

Real Life wrote: »

but should be used in moderation just like anything.

True.. although I find having sugar in moderation very difficult.

Capt'n Midnight

Judge Dredd: The Sweet Taste Of Justice

FIRST PUBLISHED 2000AD Sci-Fi Special 1981

DATELINE 01 Jun 81

PAGE COUNT 10

REPRINTS Judge Dredd (Volume 2) 6, Judge Dredd (Volume 2) 61 & Judge Dredd: The Restricted Files 01





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YFlyer

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

don't use fructose, it's evil

No way. Do tell.

Capt'n Midnight

YFlyer wrote: »

No way. Do tell.

High Fructose Corn Syrup. It's about the cheapest sweetener as Corn Subsidies in the United States totaled $116.6 billion from 1995-2020


https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/is-fructose-bad-for-you-200705012507

Virtually every cell in the body can use glucose for energy. In contrast, only liver cells break down fructose. What happens to fructose inside liver cells is complicated. One of the end products is triglyceride, a form of fat. Uric acid and free radicals are also formed.[/QUOTE

free radicals :eek:

YFlyer

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

High Fructose Corn Syrup. It's about the cheapest sweetener as Corn Subsidies in the United States totaled $116.6 billion from 1995-2020


https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/is-fructose-bad-for-you-200705012507

Virtually every cell in the body can use glucose for energy. In contrast, only liver cells break down fructose. What happens to fructose inside liver cells is complicated. One of the end products is triglyceride, a form of fat. Uric acid and free radicals are also formed.[/QUOTE

free radicals :eek:

Thanks. I forgot about the US using fructose instead of glucose or sucrose. Eating fruit is still ok?

fvp4

fvp4 wrote: »

Don’t ate nuttin and you’ll be ok.

Is that you Dr. Mosley?

ElJaguar

ElJaguar wrote: »

First you get the sugar. Then you get the power. Then you get the Women.

"The eyes chico, they never lie....."

biko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxsNy4NoZUs

Mister Vain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9nE2spOw_o

Bobblehats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7tkip0F1N0

Capt'n Midnight

YFlyer wrote: »

Thanks. I forgot about the US using fructose instead of glucose or sucrose. Eating fruit is still ok?

I know some tomatoes who have some very strong views on that subject.

YFlyer

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

I know some tomatoes who have some very strong views on that subject.

Had an argument with a US food scientist whether tomato was a fruit or veg. Reminded her that Reagan administration put tomato sauce as one of the five.

sporina

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Is sugar as sweet as it was? I don’t think so.
Two spoons in my coffee now.....before it was only one.
They’re diluting sugar now father......

sugar is addictive like a lot of meds.. the more you take, the more you need (to get the same effect)

Capt'n Midnight

YFlyer wrote: »

Had an argument with a US food scientist whether tomato was a fruit or veg. Reminded her that Reagan administration put tomato sauce as one of the five.

Five a day ? Five slices of pizza :pac:

YFlyer

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Five a day ? Five slices of pizza :pac:

It's all confusing. Isn't the inner section of an apple the fruit and outer part excess? Trying to remember my undergraduate biology.

YFlyer

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Five a day ? Five slices of pizza :pac:

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She was involved with the New England Region school food initiative. Gave a speech in UL. Probably surprised a Paddy bring up old Ronnie policy.

Alun

YFlyer wrote: »

It's all confusing. Isn't the inner section of an apple the fruit and outer part excess? Trying to remember my undergraduate biology.

It's very complicated, even more so when you bring drupes and pomes into the equation.

YFlyer

Alun wrote: »

It's very complicated, even more so when you bring drupes and pomes into the equation.

Looks confusing indeed. The mesocrap is the fruit?

Not only Einstein not do fluid dynamics. He likely kept away from botany.

Boom_Bap

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Is sugar as sweet as it was? I don’t think so.
Two spoons in my coffee now.....before it was only one.
They’re diluting sugar now father......

You're doing it wrong, rail a few lines of sugar and mainline the coffee. Let them mix somewhere inside you instead of in a cup/mug.

branie2

A spoonful of it makes the medicine go down

323

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Is sugar as sweet as it was? I don’t think so.
Two spoons in my coffee now.....before it was only one.
They’re diluting sugar now father......

Naw, the sugar hasn't changed. You have.
Sugar is a highly addictive substance and just like any other addictive substance you've developed a tolerance to it. So you need more for the same response.

I cut out sugar completely a few years ago. No processed sugar or natural sugar. Did it for a few months. A keto diet you could say.
The cravings at the start were horrible. Withdrawal symptoms. But after a week or so they subsided. I was fairly overweight and the fat just started to melt away. I slept better and had a better mood.
Need to do that again. Weight has crept up again. As someone pointed out earlier, sugar is poison. Delicious addictive poison.

There is a book called The Case Against Sugar by Gary Taubes. The Introduction is called Why Diabetes. It is frightening. In the past 100 years we have had a creeping silent epidemic that has caused far more mortality and morbidity than any of these flash fire pandemics that have everyone in a tizzy.

sporina

323 wrote: »

Naw, the sugar hasn't changed. You have.
Sugar is a highly addictive substance and just like any other addictive substance you've developed a tolerance to it. So you need more for the same response.

yep - said pretty much the same in my post

completedit

Poison hahaha such hyperbole. Don't eat a tub of haribo and you'' be fine

ThunbergsAreGo

Jacksie66. wrote: »

I cut out sugar completely a few years ago. No processed sugar or natural sugar. Did it for a few months. A keto diet you could say.
The cravings at the start were horrible. Withdrawal symptoms. But after a week or so they subsided. I was fairly overweight and the fat just started to melt away. I slept better and had a better mood.
Need to do that again. Weight has crept up again. As someone pointed out earlier, sugar is poison. Delicious addictive poison.

Did you cut out fruits etc?

sporina

I wish I had the will power to cut down on sugar (carb)... a day without some chocolate would be a foreign idea to me.. like, I don't eat too much of it but I know how bad it is for health (inflammation etc) so wish I wasn't so hooked on it.. and i eat tonnes of fruit (love bickies too) ....(i'm actually a bit underwt but i know I would feel better in general if I didn't consume it)

Mimon

YFlyer wrote: »

Had an argument with a US food scientist whether tomato was a fruit or veg. Reminded her that Reagan administration put tomato sauce as one of the five.

What has Reagan's policies to do with whether a Tomato is a fruit or a vegetable?

You really showed her :rolleyes:

Dial Hard

There is so much nonsense spouted about sugar. No it's not poison and no it's not addictive in it's own right. When was the last time you saw anyone eating spoonfuls of sugar straight out of the bowl???

Hyperpalatable processed foods and a lamentable lack of willpower from a large percentage of the population are the problem. There's a ratio of fat and sugar in combination that hits a sweet spot for people and that's what makes "treats" so tempting for many.

As people have pointed out, it's virtually impossible to cut out sugar completely, it's in practically every fruit and veg you can eat. But you don't need to cut it out completely because as I've said, it's not poison. Just cook everything from scratch and avoid the crap and you'll be fine.

323

sporina wrote: »

yep - said pretty much the same in my post

Indeed, sorry, hadn't got to there

323

isha wrote: »

There is a book called The Case Against Sugar by Gary Taubes. The Introduction is called Why Diabetes. It is frightening. In the past 100 years we have had a creeping silent epidemic that has caused far more mortality and morbidity than any of these flash fire pandemics that have everyone in a tizzy.

Another sobering read, long before Taubes was "Pure, White and Deadly" (1972) by John Yudkin, in his time a prominent physiologist and professor of nutrition. Pretty much ended his career. Reprinted in 2012.

completedit

Diet, imo, isn't as important as the nutrition/fitness industry want us to believe. The problem we have in the anglosphere and the west generally(although less so in parts of Europe) is overeating and the idea that you always need to be munching on something all of the time. Foods high in sugar are bad for you in a way but more so in terms of quantity and the tendency for people to binge on them. In and of themselves there is nothing that bad about them. I've done all sorts of diets(I'm already lean, I just do it to experiment) and I can say I never felt better cutting out sugar and carbs. The best I ever felt was when I would order Dominos 3 times a week.

I've woken up and had organic vegetable smoothies and I can safely say I feel no better or worse after I have a McDonald's breakfast.

323

323 wrote: »

Another sobering read, long before Taubes was "Pure, White and Deadly" (1972) by John Yudkin, in his time a prominent physiologist and professor of nutrition. Pretty much ended his career. Reprinted in 2012.

Thanks. The career destroying attests to the power of the lobby.

sporina

323 wrote: »

Indeed, sorry, hadn't got to there

gee no need to apologise - good minds think alike