Russia - threadbanned users in OP

saabsaab

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098603#Comment_122098603

Closer to home. Putin is using war to cement his position but it's not going to work for long. As Russian oil burns his position will become untenable.

forrestgeorge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098692#Comment_122098692

Russia has significant oil reserves, with estimates varying depending on the source. According to the United States Energy Information Administration (EIA), Russia has proven oil reserves of 80 billion barrels, which is approximately 11% of the world’s total proven oil reserves.

Most in the far east well out of harms way and piped directly to China, attack those pipe lines and you drag China into the conflict, it's not going to happen.

Polar101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098564#Comment_122098564

No money for broadband? Well, there's always next Saturday.

jmreire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098733#Comment_122098733

Having big reserves, and being able to extract and refine them, and then sell them on, are different things, especially since Ukraine are mastering the art of refinery destruction. But not to worry, I'd say that Xi has plans for Russian Gas and oil (not to mention former Chinese territory now held by Russia) Big plans, I might add, but not to Putin's benefit.

jmreire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098575#Comment_122098575

Sure it is…according to the Kremlin figures…and war economies bloom for a short while, until the cash runs out. Putin is burning through the Russian sovereign wealth fund to finance his war, and for now its booming, but war economies don't generate earnings, especially in economies that are under performing, as Russia's is, and without enough cash being generated to cover the costs of the war and running the country, the wealth fund is shrinking rapidly, ad when its gone…so is Putin's war. Without Russia, I doubt very much if NATO would be even half its present size.. Putin has been the single biggest driver of NATO expansion. Russians couldn't give a toss?…I beg to differ with you, there's approx.470'000 dead Russians and their families who most assuredly do give a toss, even if there's little they can do presently about it. But don't worry, it's all building up into what will become Putin's end, when it reaches critical mass. I wonder what direction the knife will come from. Silovicki? Oligarchs? Military? FSB? We will see no doubt. I'd say that this very question occupies Putin's waking hours quite a lot nowadays.

macraignil

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098575#Comment_122098575

https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/02/gazprom-first-annual-loss-in-20-years-trade-europe-gas-sales-russia-ukraine

The economy of putin's empire is not growing and oil exports have slumped in recent months while many economies in "the west " are back to increasing levels of trade and growth after an adjustment period to the break out of large scale war in Europe for the first time in years. Production of refurbished soviet tanks to be blown up in Ukraine and production of weapons to be expended in an unwinnable war for puitn is not real economic growth and the only major growth I have seen mentioned for putin's empire recently is the numbers claiming to be disabled. (Over half a million last year.)

https://verstka.media/v-rossii-zaregistrirovali-rekordnoe-za-poslednie-8-let-chislo-muzhchin-s-invalidnostyu-v-vozraste-31-59-let-news

I agree russians don't seem to give a toss about anything as otherwise they would not allow themselves be led by a psychopath preaching for genocide in order to rebuild a soviet empire in breach of internationally agreed borders and peace treaties. Their actions in Ukraine give a perfect explanation for the mutual defense pact that exists between NATO countries.

jmreire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098130#Comment_122098130

Straight from the Kremlin Factory of lies and propaganda!!! Including Goebbels famous " Project what you are yourself onto your enemies" So all the crap NATO / EU/ US/ UK crap weapons in reality is what Russia is using…..Chinese golf carts, N Korean dud shells, metal roofs on tanks to protect from drone attack, but means that the gun barrel cannot be traversed, or the crew escape??? Yeah….Russian / Chinese/ crap

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098162#Comment_122098162

Gonna take that a wild guess that you're a new reg of the previous poster with "Forrest" in their username who was in here singing the pro-Kremlin line.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098893#Comment_122098893

If I was a Russian troll I'd be picking very different names each time, so this one must be homegrown. Anyway, they're not wrong; we'll all be unemployed and begging for a job in one of the many Russian tech firms that take over when all the US ones go bust any day now.

Dan Steely

A BBC article about NK weapon supply to Russia

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-68933778

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098919#Comment_122098919

The honourable representative for Moscow East was ranting about microwave chips in weapons and how ridiculous it was.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098130#Comment_122098130

I wrote that Russia can stop the war at any time in response to a both sides style comment

The Russians have lost 3,000 tanks and NATO are not even in the war.

The Republicans were stalling aid in the US, now they've voted for that aid. There's some weariness, which is predictable, but still mostly majority support among allied countries

The US economy is performing exceptionally well at the moment, the EU has just reported 3 months of growth. For perspective, the Russian economy is same size as Italy's. They still have a vast military, but they've recently had to discuss raising taxes to pay for the war.

Russian losses are very high, but it's a dictatorship, and historically they've always been able to muster men to throw into a meat-grinder.

Now some will say the above is all lies, well why is the war still going on seeing as Russian ran out of ammunition last year, the Leopard and Abrams tank will sweep all before them on the battle field, you are been lied to alright, but look closer to home for the culprits.

Yes, it's distortion and lies. The Russians are running low on certain missiles and munitions, which is why they've had to rely on e.g. North Korea to send them shells, it's why they have reduced certain types of missile usage. They have high production of other munitions such as shells, which they pound Ukraine with. They use quantity. Europe and the US have been slow to ramp up production of e.g. shells.

The Leopards and Abraams are good tanks, significantly better than their Russian counterparts, no one said they would "sweep all before them on the battlefield" that's just a false generalisation you've created to argue against.

You are simply regurgitating Kremlin propaganda, you've been in this thread doing it before where you made attempts to "hide" it. Now it seems you are happy to let the mask slip. A common evolution for Putin supporters.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098575#Comment_122098575

It's growing cause they've stimulated the economy via wartime production, something that is expensive for the state and can't be maintained long term. On top of that, they're struggling to hire anyone cause they're all in the war. Plus quality of life etc has actually dropped.

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098575#Comment_122098575

Thanks for ruining my Sunday morning breakfast Forrest……

pcardin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098733#Comment_122098733

Kisilev told you? Or Solovyov? I'm happy to see a very bitter orc here. Something hurts badly. Good.

nigeldaniel

Well the holiday weekend is well on the way here, if only I could work out those pro Russia posters are Russia stooges or just local boyos and girlos who are doomsday fanatics. I guessing the cut price vodka from Aldi helps them either ways.

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122099329#Comment_122099329

That’s the thing isn’t it. They are hard to distinguish from each other due to both using a near identical Bingo-card when posting on forums like this one. Our two possibilities typically are:

• A Russian asset registering here to forward the Kremlin talking points. These are usually easy to spot and tend to be new-reg users who focus on forums like this one.
• A fully subscribed member of an echo-chamber that’s being nurtured by the Russians. These are actual posters and you’ll see them across a diverse set of forums. But their opinions smack so much of a Putin-Bot that it’s hard to not perhaps wonder if they are one.

The second variety are something to examine and wonder about….but also to be extreemly weary of. I would like to know more about the process of how people brought up in a liberal Western society would willingly delve into such a limited and authoritarian view of the world. What put them there, and what (if anything) can get them out of it?

The thing to be weary off should be a concern for any student of history. While we look back to WWII and rightfully vilify the Nazis of Germany…not an awful lot of focus is given to the sizable Nazi organisations that existed in the US, Britain and across the free world up-to and including the war itself. Even before 1939, people knew what the Nazies were about and you still got people growing up in democracies and thinking “Yep, seems like a good idea”.

With that invocation of Godwin’s 1st Law, that brings us back to today and the concept of a poster who supports Russia in their war of annihilation. They are the same thing, and sooner or later we’ll need to address this.

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098130#Comment_122098130

Why would Russia stop now?

Well they can't in many ways. Putin went all in and it seems without realising what that meant. Though no matter how it pans out the Kremlin will claim they "won", got rid of "nazis" etc. And their flag wavers will buy it and fall prey to their usual amnesia about the difficult questions.

They have shown NATO equipment to be second rate. Sale of NATO weapons to world will collapse now , further reducing money for western weapons R&D

NATO nations rely far more on internal sales, never mind NATO economies dwarf Russia's anyway. What the US spends on their military alone would be a huge chunk of what Russia spends on everything in their economy. They don't need overseas sales. Russia is, or was far more reliant on those markets and who's going to want to buy Russian jack in the box tanks now? And if NATO equipment is so second rate, why does the Kremlin have a fit and start waving the nuke threat every time some new bit of NATO kit for Ukraine is announced? Did Russians looking at the display of captured NATO gear not find it interesting the tanks still had their turrets attached?

Anti Ukrainian war feeling is increasing in EU/US, zero chance of the politicians getting the public on side to go fight for Ukraine, it ain't happening, more chance of revolution that the public marching of to fight Russia.

Well the bot farms would love for that to be true, but it's not. Indeed in the US support for Ukraine has actually gone up since last year. Hell, even among Republicans. You may have missed the recent Volte-face in the US congress? Y'know the one where billions have been earmarked for Ukraine, the one that yet again had Kremlin mouthpieces apoplectic threatening nukes again? Bless.

EU and US economies are in rag order, pumping tax payers money into Ukraine while the multitude of problems in the west only increases, public in west will vote for politicians who want to cut Ukraine loose.

Ahh one does love the classics of the Russian Rolodex of spin. This is a perennial; "look at all your tax money going to Ukraine while your people starve/freeze!!". Hang on, I thought Europe was going to freeze and starve two years ago… You Russian spin doctors seem to forget, or don't want to think about; the money being "pumped into Ukraine" is a tiny fraction of Western nation's budgets. Any problems Western nations have were there before Ukraine and will be there after too. Big deal. Unlike Russia we don't need to have a wartime economy.

Fact is Russian loses are no where near the Ukrainian level, Russia is simply shelling them around the clock from a safe distance and grinding out the win, slow progress, but progress none the less.

At this rate it'll be 2100 when Russia takes Kiev.

Now some will say the above is all lies, well why is the war still going on seeing as Russian ran out of ammunition last year, the Leopard and Abrams tank will sweep all before them on the battle field, you are been lied to alright, but look closer to home for the culprits.

Nice shout out for the Do your own research! eejits on arsebook. You have that audience alright. Only a minority of fools claimed Russia was running out of ammo last year, though they have had to go cap in hand to Iran and of all crapholes North Korea to shore up supply. The MBT's were lauded by some, but most reasoned commentators noted there were simply too few and they wouldn't have that much of an effect, beyond the propaganda value, and to get up the Kremlin's nose. They most certainly did that alright. Cue Russia bots and simps reposting ad nauseam the same pics of a few western MBT's that were hit. Still with turrets attached…

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098418#Comment_122098418

"Russia are running out of money due to sanctions"

That's not the purpose of sanctions. It's far more long term. Sanctions are designed to kill growth over time. The only growth sector in Russia is military and that's neither sustainable nor scalable. Russia's gas sales have fallen off a cliff, their biggest customer by far cut off for at least a generation. Untold billions gone and they don't have the manpower or tech to build new pipelines anywhere soon. Never mind most of the existing tech was Western in nature. That's also gone. Their oil sales ditto and what is sold is on tiny or non-existent margins. The ruble is still fine in Russia, but utterly worthless anywhere else including in BRICS economies. The BRICS bank itself cut Russia off from investment over two years ago. Sales to and from regions like Africa are down compared to before the war(peaked around 2018).

Say my name

Krasnodar is basically what Bavaria was to Nazism. Participants took turns in jumping from a ship and swimming to shore. When on shore Z flags, Soviet flags were flown. This area seems to be the heart of this Russian nazism movement.

http://twitter.com/sotanews/status/1787076337158521098

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098733#Comment_122098733

Ah yes the pipelines… Here's a pic of Russia's pipelines:

Notice anything? They aren't going east to "friend" China. Or should I say weren't. Russia's market was West, not East and that market has fallen off a cliff and infrastructure to build eastward will take time and cash, lots of time and cash.

Say my name

A chinese company will build "agricultural" drones in Krasnodar. 20 a month planned to be built.

http://twitter.com/sambendett/status/1786844208034119840

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122099598#Comment_122099598

Also worth mentioning that this middle part of that map with nearly nothing in it is a part of the world so difficult and unforgiving to human life (especially in Winter), that it took the Soviets decades and countless gulag-slave lives to build any infrastructure at all there.

fly_agaric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098919#Comment_122098919

A disturbing article (if all in it is correct). Total failure of the UN sanctions there, did not expect it was that bad.

Probably have China to thank/blame, mostly. I would say it was reckless of them to be aiding a mad + paranoid govt. like that in NK to level up their weaponry/missiles to point where they can begin WW3 all by themselves, but what do I know?

I wonder if any of the US/European advocates of globalisation + outsourcing back in the 2000s-2010s foresaw proliferation of components of weapons to likes of the Kim dynasty and re-exported value added products (ballistic missiles) landing on European cities?

Say my name

Cuban mercenaries executed their Russian commander for regular humiliations, withholding money from the soldiers, beatings. The mercenaries have been redistributed to the Rostov region never to be heard from again.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=M_80f1sSylk

zerosquared

https://archive.ph/8PCdj

So how many people have to die in Europe before this silly practice of letting Russians in is stopped

johnnyskeleton

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122097226#Comment_122097226

All these guys are incapable of understanding basic concepts, such as that Ukraine has its own autonomy and can make choices of its own. Wanting to move towards the West and away from Russia was their choice, not anyone else's.

The fact that Ukraine tried for many years to chart a course between Russia and the West, and ultimately rejected Russias interference in their country, which led to Russia invading, seems lost on them.

Of course we in Ireland understand why a country would seek to diversify trade and share ideals with the EU, and away from dependence and political subservience to a former empire next door.

We are therefore ideally poised to understand Ukraine, and these commentators who cant grasp this perspective look foolish to us.

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122099712#Comment_122099712

Not really a shock tbh. Some sanctions are easy(if longwinded and expensive) to bypass, especially highly mobile and tiny items like basic inside near every electronic product chips that are made and sold across the world in unimaginable numbers every year. Hell, you could probably scavenge enough chips for your requirements from all the used IT gear we throw into recycling every year, a fair chunk of which ends up nations beyond the West as we like to outsource the messy stuff too. Even if there were no outsourcing or global markets and they were all made in The West™ they'd still be easy enough to procure.

johnnyskeleton

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122099540#Comment_122099540

For Russia, the passing of the Ukraine aid package was a major development, demonstrating how much the USA wants to be involved in Ukraine and how much they are going out of their way to damage Russia.

For the US, it was a Tuesday

fly_agaric

On Russia-supportive posts from regs with similar handle names ("Pussyhands" on page 1, "poon tang" whatever next!?) I have wondered is it some Irish in Russia (that know of this site from back when I believe it was more popular) just amusing themselves?

Were a fair few Irish doing work for RT pre invasion I think (see article below), when there was less of a stench off that.

Am sure the money was good for young, presentable and clever people with native English, who are not from UK/US!

From May 2022 Indepenent (paywall):

https://www.independent.ie/news/the-rise-of-kremlin-news-organisation-rt-and-putins-irish-propaganda-arm/41644295.html