Russia - threadbanned users in OP

circadian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119732687#Comment_119732687

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oazwTDeqF54

Ha!

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733266#Comment_119733266

Got any reliable statistics on this? Syrians have had enormous casualties during the war, which is still going on.

And, uhh, if war with RuSSia is as it is in your view, not too bad, why have so many fled?

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733276#Comment_119733276

The newly Enlighted one will be on shortly to tell you that was all part of the plan.

Wake up sheeple!!!

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119732710#Comment_119732710

Spartans. 🤣 Those Spartans whose wedding customs included shaving the wife's head and dressing her as a bloke so the husband wouldn't be too shocked in dealing with a woman? I suspect they might like an oul "Gay parade". Those Spartans who alone among the Greek city states left us feck all art, architecture, philosophy, science? Actually if Russia wants to go down that route, the way they're going lately it's open to them. Russia had a long history in the arts and culture and technology. When communism came along they added to it and built some very cool stuff. Not too shabby for a mostly agrarian nation that had missed most of the industrial revolution. Since the fall of communism, what have they produced that's been noticed worldwide? Very little and now they're going full medieval imperial feudalism.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119732985#Comment_119732985

The three big players are the US, Europe and Asia. That's it. And in Asia, China, the only one that can be at odds with "The West" is in the game because she became the outsourced manufacturing entity of the other two. All three are reliant on each other and none are interested in rocking that boat beyond the occasional half hearted sabre rattling for their masses. Others like Russia and the Middle East are on the sidelines, ball boys, cheap energy suppliers for the other three. Suppliers that increasingly are a little less relevant. Oh they can cause hiccups, but have nothing like the soft and hard economic, social and political power of the other three. With this idiotic Russian war they've actually sped up their own decline. The US is happy to see Russia bleed out for little cost on their part, China is happy to take cheap oil, but their global interests don't make them a "friend" to Russia as it'll hit them in the pocket and the Chinese are not fools. Europe is more along the lines of FFS, what where we thinking in our dealings with Russia as a rational partner? Never again, or not for a loooong time.

This lack of ability or desire to see the world from anything other than western perspective

Mainly because the world is Western. The device your typing on might be made in China, or Taiwan, with resources from all over, but it's a Western invention and product. The very clothes you wear, the furniture around you, the tech you use, the car, bike, bus, plane you move around in, the media you consume is almost entirely "Western". Even the politics involved. Democracy, liberalism, conservatism, communism, facsism, whatever ism you like. All Western in origin. Thousgh she likes to paint herself against it for the gullible beyond and within, Russia herself is Western. The last old style White, European, "christian" empire left that invaded, planted and colonised east overland while the other old European empires invaded, planted and colonised overseas.

Jinglejangle69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733300#Comment_119733300

Why can’t Ukraine just stop resisting?

It’s not fair. So annoying like.

vixdname

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119728242#Comment_119728242

What a long boring repetitive rant, surely they dont believe this drivle theyre spouting.

Either that or they are so brainwash (or moronic) that theyre trying to convince themselves that theyre not a shambolic rag tag country with an even more shambolic military and leader.

If you average ruskie is so stupid as to believe this blatant rubbish they deserve nothing better

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733302#Comment_119733302

And, uhh, if war with RuSSia is as it is in your view, not too bad, why have so many fled?

Can you point out where I said that?

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733362#Comment_119733362

Sure.

Syrian "depopulation" is due to millions of syrians being granted asylum, and millions more being trafficked to europe under the guise of being given asylum. The scale of human migration for asylum has changed massively since the invasion of iraq

You imply, with no data (note you didn't answer my question as to why so many have fled Syria where that isn't the case for the other wars RuSSia is not involved with), that people are leaving for other reasons than fear for their lives. Am I right? Also, I missed any criticism from you of RuSSia's actions in Syria.

Wes M.

The Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant is back in the bulletins again, and while I know very little about nuclear power generation, it's a safe bet that these things require careful handling, and the reports suggest that Zaporizhzhia is hostage to more Russian mismanagement. This is obviously another bargaining chip (or simply a weapon) for the Russians and while a major incident at the plant would have profound consequences East and West, you imagine the Kremlin have already taken steps to insulate themselves from such an event (Putin shrugs his shoulders, strangers die everyday)

EltonJohn69

Is there a video or podcast explaining how nato encroachment pushed Russia into war ? Was there a deal between Russia and nato that there would be no expansion ?

I have heard a lot of conflicting information on this subject, I could do with accurate information/ truth facts.

Sunny Disposition

With the West warning that it will intervene if Russia uses nuclear weapons, the message must be getting through to all levels of Russian society that the war is lost. They'll be annihilated if they use them, and that's really all that's left. They couldn't overrun Ukraine as they thought, couldn't even defeat it over a number of months, their battlefield forces have failed, and the economic pressure put on the West has also failed.

it's still hard to see how it plays out, but I find it impossible to see it ending well for Russia. Even trying to defend the gains they have will mean huge losses and continued sanctions. An escalation can't work for them either.

I find the West's response to the missiles earlier in the week interesting. Russia has committed many massacres already, has literally stolen children, has bombed civilians many times already, but for some reason Monday's attacks have been seen as a step too far. I don't think it makes sense really, but it's good to see there isn't any growing acceptance of Russian evil.

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733335#Comment_119733335

Those shows, and shows they are, are the equivalent of Daily Mail/Fox in the West. Very popular to the light on thinking and heavy on bullshít and since there are enough of those everywhere they have a large audience but I wouldn't say it's the average Russian. A large chunk of them, but certainly not all.

GM228

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119730988#Comment_119730988

To come back to this:-

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1580125214041866240?t=0cukeRMD_LL_ZJYN76fjuw&s=19

For once the Kremlin may be speaking the truth, from the man himself:-

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1579946607151546368?t=75DuAqJPS6s-LyY9HKoElA&s=19

josip

There are some pro-Russian accounts posting on Twitter at the moment that Russia have counter attacked in the Kharkiv area and retaken the towns on the east side of the Oskil.

https://twitter.com/miladvisor/status/1579604920357228544/photo/1

Which is an interesting claim, since this morning their artillery was targeting all along the Sherebets.

https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/12-october-at-kramatorsk-direction-russian-army-shelled-pershotravneve

Maybe it was a creeping barrage designed to keep their troops moving forward? 🙂

Footage also emerging, purportedly of their retreat from Lyman. Looks like the convoy was traveling too close and more than one vehicle was destroyed.

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1577714778755268611

GM228

More Hybrid Warfare?

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1580119651077746688?t=dEvqYsib_GJIw2LNA3Z3cQ&s=19

Francie Barrett

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1580131049732210688

Noticed a lot of the bridges in the occupied areas of Kherson are being rebuilt. I wonder have the HIMARS been moved somewhere else on the front? Bakhmut has been growing under an increasing threat in the last week or two, wouldn't surprise me that they popped up there.

GM228

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733414#Comment_119733414

And according to Energoatom Russia is blocking fresh diesel supply for the generators:-

https://twitter.com/energoatom_ua/status/1580123719279599616?t=omDPvrbz9xf7dJbFhUW0Ow&s=19

GM228

On Nuclear weapons a Russian expert claims use of Nuclear weapons will wipe out Ukraine's electronics and allow Russia to attack more successfully, but somehow not kill many civilians.

Some expert, must have specialist knowledge that nobody else has.

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1580136565052829696?t=2wME0UUu_98nsiE1N2ojSw&s=19

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733041#Comment_119733041

Maybe people disbelieved Putin's statements because he's a pathological liar with a prior history where you'd need a team of archeologists working for years to uncover anything he'd ever said that wasn't a lie.

That's the problem with deceitfulness, when you uncharacteristically tell the truth and want people to believe you, they probably won't.

So dangerous is this problem that we in the west have even gone to the trouble of telling children a well known lupine parable.

As regards the so called trench russia is digging, I've seen comment it's an anti tank/vehicle "cope" ditch rather than a trench. There are dragons teeth obstacles being placed as well. I doubt it'll work.

Hobgoblin11

https://t.me/info_zp/18378

Operation command South confirmed liberation of Novovasylivka, Novohryhorivka, Nova Kamianka, Tryfonivka and Chervone in Beryslav district of Kherson region

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733651#Comment_119733651

While I couldn't be on Ukraine's side any more without actually packing up and going there, the music they tend to choose for their videos is bordering on being a war crime.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733595#Comment_119733595

Countries choose to join NATO because they fear they will be targeted or attacked by an increasingly hostile Russia. Russia turned that on it's head by claiming they are being "encircled" by NATO. It's quite similar to the propaganda used by the Nazi regime in the 30's. Countries, naturally fearful of Hitler's expansionist goals, joined defensive alliances. Hitler too claimed he was "being surrounded".

Putin didn't want Ukraine to join NATO because his end goal was to invade the country. He sees himself as Peter the Great and he sees Ukraine as Russian territory. We now see all this playing out now in real time.

Brussels Sprout

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733643#Comment_119733643

Just for context - this is the tweet that Musk was replying to:

So basically it's a case of "He said / He said".

I'm vaguely familiar with Bremmer, in that his Youtube videos pop up on my feed every now and then. They're very simple - talk to camera about some geopolitics matter. Very dry. Not sensational at all.

In contrast Musk is....well Musk.

machiavellianme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119732818#Comment_119732818

There's nothing useful about such idiots

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733394#Comment_119733394

You imply, with no data {...} that people are leaving for other reasons than fear for their lives.

Once again - where did I say (or imply) that?

The OP was making claims of genocidal mass slaughter - how does fleeing for your lives equate to being slaughtered? I think it's great they have the option of leaving and seeking asylum, plenty of Iraqis certainly didnt have that option, which was one reason the population drop wasnt quite as drastic as in syria.

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733775#Comment_119733775

While the trenches might not be much use against tanks, they would prevent the rapid Humvee attacks that we've seen clips of recently. The Russians are not incapable of learning it seems.

Brussels Sprout

Seeing reports that four Russian Ka-52 helicopters were shot down within a 20 minute period in Southern Ukraine this morning. They're $15m a piece so quite the expensive 20 minutes if true.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119733918#Comment_119733918

That remains to be seen, I figure Ukrainians are plenty smart enough to deal with this obstacle. Once through, they're away again.

Hobgoblin11

https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1580103903734964224

The units of the Defense Forces of Ukraine in the Zaporizhzhia region, with the help of radio-electronic combat, destroyed an enemy unmanned aircraft carrying a K-51 grenade with a highly irritating substance

there will be a few defenestrations if the Russians are proven to have been caught using chemical warfare