Kerry footballers smash someone's head in. €400 fine.

Darc19

Effin joke.

These two scumbags smash a totally innocent persons head in and are probably laughing at a €400 fine

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/it-has-changed-my-life-victim-speaks-out-as-two-kerry-footballers-convicted-of-assault-40562953.html


Their excuse, it was the drink that did it, and they actually wanted to get off Scot free by throwing up a few quid "compensation"

KKkitty

Ah sure they're great at the auld GAA. More was said about that than anything else

biko

Send them to prison for two months and ban them from the city centre for a year or two.

ShatterAlan

They are to be convicted, according to the judge.


Pair of **** who think they are important will carry an assault conviction now.



I'm not sure what the victim's injuries entailed.....possibly black eyes and swelling and hopefully nothing worse than that.



Let the two pricks now have a record. I don't mind that they aren't going to the big house. Their whimpering regret and attempts to weasel out of it with 5k is enough to show them up as turds.

The DayDream

2 20 something athletes beating the shoite out of a middle aged man for fun. They barely got punished, only a fine and they only barely got a conviction recorded, almost dodged that except the judge actually bothered his hole 5o watch the CCTV.

No other country are serious unprovoked assaults not met with jail time and then monitored probation.

Beyond a joke. Hand them a ****ing jail sentence ffs.

This is an absolute farce that gaa can get you out of these corners. I'm saying that as a lifetime member and player. Another high profile Dublin player got away for similar.

The victims own kids were afraid of him he was left so badly injured. The trauma goes beyond the victim.

****ing judges in this country can be absolute pricks.

Atlantic Dawn

Good they got a conviction, no trips to US or Australia to cause additional havoc.

colm_mcm

Hadleigh Gentle Snot wrote: »

Beyond a joke. Hand them a ****ing jail sentence ffs.

This is an absolute farce that gaa can get you out of these corners. I'm saying that as a lifetime member and player.

To be fair, the courts are known for lenient sentences, and it’s easier to get into Dental Science in Trinity than it is to get a jail sentence.

Darc19

ShatterAlan wrote: »

They are to be convicted, according to the judge.


Pair of **** who think they are important will carry an assault conviction now.



I'm not sure what the victim's injuries entailed.....possibly black eyes and swelling and hopefully nothing worse than that.



Let the two pricks now have a record. I don't mind that they aren't going to the big house. Their whimpering regret and attempts to weasel out of it with 5k is enough to show them up as turds.

The victim was 100% innocent and literally walking by these two Kerry scumbags and his head was smashed to a state that he was not recognisable.

The leniency is a fukken joke. And the excuse that it was the drink that did it, so we should not be blamed was laughable.

No wonder groups of scum like this maraud around towns unafraid of any consequences when a few quid of a fine is all they will get.

You'd get a higher fine for going to court doing 140km on a clear motorway!

wes

If the punishment for a crime is a fine, then the rich are effectively above the law.

SeaFields

Hadleigh Gentle Snot wrote: »

This is an absolute farce that gaa can get you out of these corners. I'm saying that as a lifetime member and player. Another high profile Dublin player got away for similar.

To be fair the defence tried to play the footballers card "they are role models" which the judge rejected outright. He also rejected the probation act and ensured the left the court with a criminal conviction. I agree a tougher sentence would have been better but I don't think being "gaa stars" or whatever that article was trying to say got them leniency

bigroad

They are role models for younger people.
Yea they sure are.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

A criminal record is no consequence to someone in that position - hel be well looked after by the locals.

Probably command a bigger fee for an appearance.

And if was some other drug than alcohol, people world be crying for it to be banned.

lawred2

wes wrote: »

If the punishment for a crime is a fine, then the rich are effectively above the law.

The rich?

Tyrone212

Let me guess the parish priest give a glowing great family character reference.

punisher5112

No wonder people don't give a flying rats a#s about others... Zero consequences

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

lawred2 wrote: »

The rich?

It's not a fine, it's a business expense.

TheValeyard

Would he be able to take a civil case against them now? Make them hurt that way.

Pentecost

TheValeyard wrote: »

Would he be able to take a civil case against them now? Make them hurt that way.

Yep. Though they probably don't have a lot of money or assets in their own names yet.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

TheValeyard wrote: »

Would he be able to take a civil case against them now? Make them hurt that way.

No, they've already have over 5k. Civil cases won't do anything else.

I think the defense can appeal the leniency of the sentence though. Could be wrong.

Pentecost

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

No, they've already have over 5k. Civil cases won't do anything else.

I think the defense can appeal the leniency of the sentence though. Could be wrong.

He could be awarded a lot more but enforcing it would be difficult.

BrianBoru00

Hadleigh Gentle Snot wrote: »

Beyond a joke. Hand them a ****ing jail sentence ffs.

This is an absolute farce that gaa can get you out of these corners. I'm saying that as a lifetime member and player. Another high profile Dublin player got away for similar.

The victims own kids were afraid of him he was left so badly injured. The trauma goes beyond the victim.

****ing judges in this country can be absolute pricks.

The gaa didn't get them out of any corners. Nor did it in that Dublin case.
This is an issue with the courts, nothing to do with the gaa.

There's sentences like this handed out regularly where there's no mention of extra curricular activities of the defendant s

An Ri rua

The DayDream wrote: »

2 20 something athletes beating the shoite out of a middle aged man for fun. They barely got punished, only a fine and they only barely got a conviction recorded, almost dodged that except the judge actually bothered his hole 5o watch the CCTV.

No other country are serious unprovoked assaults not met with jail time and then monitored probation.

There's plenty of 40 year old men who, knowing how to box or street fight, would have kicked their scrawny scrote arses up inside their heads.

I know I could, and I'm a few years older again.

Very poor justice for Mr McCarthy and very good luck for them that they didn't happen upon 2 middle aged men with previous training. But they will, God willing.
All lads like those, and most GAA footballers, are good for is handbags. Athletes. But soft boys. Why else would they attack innocent men twice their age?

spring lane jack

I got the same fine for about 2 euro worth of Hash.

Dyr

Deleted User wrote: »

I hate that because they are semi decent GAA players that this acts in their favour. I don’t give a damn about GAA but I do care about two little runts beating the hell out of an innocent person.

Our courts do seem to be very lenient on violent assaults unfortunately. That needs to change.

Kerry courts tend not to convict Kerrymen.

Banjo country.

An Ri rua

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

No, they've already have over 5k. Civil cases won't do anything else.

I think the defense can appeal the leniency of the sentence though. Could be wrong.

One could do a nice bit of 'lobbying' with 5k..especially down that part of the country. Best spent on his own family though.

Heraclius

Bambi wrote: »

Kerry courts tend not to convict Kerrymen.

Banjo country.

They did get convicted though. Do you have any evidence to back up that generalisation?

c.p.w.g.w

ArtyM wrote: »

Patrick Viera is such a calm, relaxed, speaker.
He is so laid back.
Its weird, given what a menacing force he was when on the pitch.

Big difference, plenty of professional athletes can be scary during the course of their sport, but gentleman off the pitch...

Johny Hendricks off UFC and bare Knuckle boxing fame, is proper scary but his so well spoken and up standing member of society...

I find their is a sence of entitlement that GAA and Rugby players have in this country that is scary

ArtyM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Big difference, plenty of professional athletes can be scary during the course of their sport, but gentleman off the pitch...

Johny Hendricks off UFC and bare Knuckle boxing fame, is proper scary but his so well spoken and up standing member of society...

I find their is a sence of entitlement that GAA and Rugby players have in this country that is scary

I posted in the wrong thread, meant to post in the Euro 2020 thread.
Your point is a good one though, there are those who can switch it on\off when they enter\leave the arena.

TheWonderLlama

Of course, we can be sure that the Kerry board and their club will no longer consider these thugs for selection on any team in the future.
As an example to the younger players, of course.

(and yes, i see the flying boar)

BrianBoru00

BrianBoru00 wrote: »

The gaa didn't get them out of any corners. Nor did it in that Dublin case.
This is an issue with the courts, nothing to do with the gaa.

There's sentences like this handed out regularly where there's no mention of extra curricular activities of the defendant s

The inability of judges to see beyond the affiliation does.

handlemaster

A case against them for compensation is the only way. The victim here did not get justice. What would have had to happen to actually see them go to jail ? What would have had to happen death would that have been enough. The judges in this court are not fit to judge out of touch with reality for the victims. 400 euro for a serious assault.. thats just an kick for the victim

Stovepipe

400 euros wouldnt buy you the suits they appeared in court in.

Hego Damask

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Good they got a conviction, no trips to US or Australia to cause additional havoc.

No doubt the Healy Rae's will put a call in to someone to sort that out ...

JustJoe7240

Hego Damask wrote: »

No doubt the Healy Rae's will put a call in to someone to sort that out ...

Yeah, Some rambling Kerry Man will have major pull with US or Australian immigration.

Montage of Feck

Ah feck, was hoping it was the head of a Dub in the all Ireland.

machiavellianme

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Good they got a conviction, no trips to US or Australia to cause additional havoc.

Or, another way of looking at it is that now we're stuck with them because even the mad as badgers Yanks and Kangaroos won't accept them in their country.

buried

Its Kerry. Every single one of their footballers are treated as if they were a combination of Zeus and Indiana Jones.

cruizer101

Will the GAA take any action? Doubtful.
They should be kicked of the team and banned for a few years, send the message that that sort of behavior is not accepted.
At least they got a conviction but even a month in a cell would have been good to hear.

whisky_galore

Will there be a queue to shake hands (or bump elbows) with them after Sunday Mass?

Wanderer2010

buried wrote: »

Its Kerry. Every single one of their footballers are treated as if they were a combination of Zeus and Indiana Jones.

Not just Kerry. Practically every county idolises a select few lads who happen to be good at hitting a sliotar up to God like adoration. The GAA machine mixed with ego is a toxic mix. Its only later in life when you see these superstars that you realise how fleeting their 'fame' is, and outside of this country, indeed outside their own county, nobody knows or cares who they are.

boombang

I have to say that I think this is sick. You could sue a business for €50,000 if you received those injuries as a result of an accident. These sorry excuses of men get away with doing deliberate damage to a someone without provocation and only have to stump up some cash.

I hope this story follows these scumbags like a bad stain for a long time.

buried

Wanderer2010 wrote: »

Not just Kerry. Practically every county idolises a select few lads who happen to be good at hitting a sliotar up to God like adoration. The GAA machine mixed with ego is a toxic mix. Its only later in life when you see these superstars that you realise how fleeting their 'fame' is, and outside of this country, indeed outside their own county, nobody knows or cares who they are.

Oh I know its not just Kerry, but I work in Kerry a good bit during the year, and not to put the people down, the Kerry people are very good people, but they are so clannish and so parochial it is beyond belief. They don't see Kerry as a county, they see it as a literal Province, and it is theirs. It is their realm and anybody that does well in it in any shape of form especially in the likes of sport or business is lauded like a golden God. Way, way more than any other county in Ireland, and I work in them all. It goes way way beyond Gaelic Games.

Wanderer2010

buried wrote: »

Oh I know its not just Kerry, but I work in Kerry a good bit during the year, and not to put the people down, the Kerry people are very good people, but they are so clannish and so parochial it is beyond belief. They don't see Kerry as a county, they see it as a literal Province, and it is theirs. It is their realm and anybody that does well in it in any shape of form especially in the likes of sport or business is lauded like a golden God. Way, way more than any other county in Ireland, and I work in them all. It goes way way beyond Gaelic Games.

Good point, maybe they are so cut off from the rest of the country that they start to believe there isnt a world beyond Tralee! Who was that fool a few years ago who strutted around the pitch like he was Gods gift,all fake tan and big ego, Galvin?? Incredible to think how deluded some of these GAA players are, and how fragile the whole delusion is- when they leave Ireland, it hits them how insignificant they are ha ha

Bobblehats

Too lenient, I want to see Boy A with full shock of white hair by the time he’s 25.

KevRossi

SeaFields wrote: »

To be fair the defence tried to play the footballers card "they are role models" which the judge rejected outright. He also rejected the probation act and ensured the left the court with a criminal conviction. I agree a tougher sentence would have been better but I don't think being "gaa stars" or whatever that article was trying to say got them leniency

You can bet your last fiver that if they were from a rough part of Killarney or Tralee with no talent at sport and were working in Tesco or some pub, that they'd be waking up in prison this morning. Maybe for only 2 or 3 months, but they would go down for that. The victim is well known locally and it was utterly unprovoked.

If the judge did imprison those lads he'd have hell to play for with Kerry neighbours and friends over the next few months as the business end of the GAA season is starting now.

BPKS

I'm delighted that nobody here has done anything stupid when they were young.

Unfortunately I got into a few scrapes with pints on board when I was younger. Some my fault, some not.

I'd like to think that I probably wouldn't pass smart remarks to a few young fellas when I was going home p1ssed on a Sunday evening at my age now either.

manonboard

BPKS wrote: »

I'm delighted that nobody here has done anything stupid when they were young.

Unfortunately I got into a few scrapes with pints on board when I was younger. Some my fault, some not.

I'd like to think that I probably wouldn't pass smart remarks to a few young fellas when I was going home p1ssed on a Sunday evening at my age now either.

Did you attack completely innocent more senior friends walking each other home when you are in the height of physical skill with years of training behind you?
probably not, because you are not a scum bag. They seriously assaulted him after their own friend started making remarks to initiate the situation.

BrianBoru00

cruizer101 wrote: »

Will the GAA take any action? Doubtful.
They should be kicked of the team and banned for a few years, send the message that that sort of behavior is not accepted.
At least they got a conviction but even a month in a cell would have been good to hear.

What a daft comment. This was not related to the GAA in any way according to any reports I've seen on it.

should they be banned from the golf course and swimming pools as well?
Stopped partaking in amateur drama if that's their thing?

ShatterAlan

Darc19 wrote: »

The victim was 100% innocent and literally walking by these two Kerry scumbags and his head was smashed to a state that he was not recognisable.

The leniency is a fukken joke. And the excuse that it was the drink that did it, so we should not be blamed was laughable.

No wonder groups of scum like this maraud around towns unafraid of any consequences when a few quid of a fine is all they will get.

You'd get a higher fine for going to court doing 140km on a clear motorway!

I'm not condoning what they did, man. They attacked an innocent guy and beat him. I wish they got jail time but I'm glad they got an assault conviction on their records. That should follow them around for the rest of their lives.

whisky_galore

BPKS wrote: »

I'm delighted that nobody here has done anything stupid when they were young.

Unfortunately I got into a few scrapes with pints on board when I was younger. Some my fault, some not.

I'd like to think that I probably wouldn't pass smart remarks to a few young fellas when I was going home p1ssed on a Sunday evening at my age now either.

Ah boys will be boys etc...only a bitta craic giving a lad a hiding, shur he probably saw the funny side of it..

Also..
"Judge Waters said it was clear the two older men were entirely innocent and had done nothing to provoke what happened that night."