Irish Ambassador to the States acts the clown!

Jerry Attrick

This idiot should be recalled to Iveagh House, given a dressing down and then reassigned to Peking or Rangoon where he'll find something more important to write letters about.

Irish Ambassador to the United States Daniel Mulhall has described the use of the word “leprechaun” by a Nobel Prize-winning economist as an “unacceptable slur”. Mr Mulhall was responding to a column in the New York Times by Paul Krugman who coined the phrase “leprechaun economics” to describe Ireland’s tax policies relating to multinationals.

The phrase, which is now generally used to describe how transfer pricing can distort national accounts, has stuck.

..................................... Returning to the theme in his New York Times column this week, Mr Krugman suggested the distortion in Ireland’s GDP may have been caused by Apple booking its profits in Ireland.

“How big a deal was this? On paper, Ireland’s gross domestic product suddenly jumped 25 per cent, even though nothing real had changed – a phenomenon I dubbed ‘leprechaun economics’, a term that has stuck. (Fortunately, the Irish have a sense of humour.)”

However, Mr Mulhall responded with a letter to the New York Times, saying: “I do not go along with Mr Krugman’s disingenuous excuse that ‘the Irish have a sense of humour’ about his attacks on us. While I am always happy to engage in serious debate about Ireland’s economic performance, derogatory references in a leading newspaper like yours are no laughing matter.

Extract from: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/irish-ambassador-condemns-leprechaun-economics-term-as-derogatory-1.4591943

He’s right. Nobody would accept a slur word for Jewish people regarding financial matters. Kevin Myers no longer works for the Sunday times.

Yeah, that's a bit silly.

NSAman

He is right!

The author is Jewish, could you imagine if he called him a Palestinian hater?

It’s time the Irish stood up against idiots and culturally inappropriate slurs on our being! English calling us Paddy’s, yanks calling us Micks, us thinking ourselves as the best in the world..etc..etc..

Insulting people based on a myth, is not acceptable…so that “hooked nosed Red Sea pedestrian” schmuck was right to be called up on a printed piece.

nullzero

Part of me thinks it's not a big deal while another part of me knows that anti Irish slurs are the only acceptable form of bigotry left in the world, a world where Irish people gladly adopt the notion of "white guilt" without question.

So, if we have to accept responsibility for things other people with a similar skin tone to us have done in the past why should we have to accept slurs against us?

NSAman

NSAman wrote: »

He is right!

The author is Jewish, could you imagine if he called him a Palestinian hater?

It’s time the Irish stood up against idiots and culturally inappropriate slurs on our being! English calling us Paddy’s, yanks calling us Micks, us thinking ourselves as the best in the world..etc..etc..

Insulting people based on a myth, is not acceptable…so that “hooked nosed Red Sea pedestrian” schmuck was right to be called up on a printed piece.

I'd rather be the country that doesn't turn into drama queens over a little joke.

NSAman

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd rather be the country that doesn't turn into drama queens over a little joke.

Sense the tone…sheeeshhhh

biko

‘Leprechaun economics’ is fine.
People are dying to be offended these days.

sydthebeat

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd rather be the country that doesn't turn into drama queens over a little joke.

I see what you did there :P:P

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

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They've got cookies!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

MkSavage wrote: »

Hmm well Jews are very sensitive to even the mildest banter. So don't talk **** to others when you can't handle it yourself.

Jews tell the best Jewish jokes.

Donald Trump

Mulhall is perfectly right and doing his job.


He is a very good representative.

Imagine being offended over something like that. Wafer thin skin.

odyssey06

If the leprechauns are offended let them lodge their own objection.

MkSavage

MkSavage wrote: »

And yet the Jews acted like it was another holocaust when Kevin Myers made a joke about them.

Yes, I'm glad I'm not a drama queen. Wafer thin skin, etc.

I love how you think you're making this zinger of a point.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

MkSavage wrote: »

And yet the Jews acted like it was another holocaust when Kevin Myers made a joke about them.

No, a few people who claimed to represent the entire Jewish community acte that way.

Most people can see the joke. A few overly sensitive wokey types get triggered, but they're the ones with the conch, unfortunately.

iffandonlyif

fvp4 wrote: »

He’s right. Nobody would accept a slur word for Jewish people regarding financial matters.

There is so, so big a difference.

Allinall

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Imagine being offended over something like that. Wafer thin skin.

Imagine being outraged by someone being offended by something like this.

micosoft

Jerry Attrick wrote: »

This idiot should be recalled to Iveagh House, given a dressing down and then reassigned to Peking or Rangoon where he'll find something more important to write letters about.

I'd be fairly certain he was acting under Iveagh house instruction. The first time Krugman was let away with it as the best policy is usually to ignore. This second time is more serious as Krugman is essentially labelling a country and it's peoples economy i.e. its means of survival as some kind of joke. Whatever about debating how Ireland has leveraged taxation to its advantage allowing the country to be reduced to some sort of derogatory insult is offensive.

Of course fellow travellers and the usual crew over here will latch on as it gives legitimacy to their half baked "juche" plans for the Irish economy and/or stealing this money for Ireland.

JPCN1

MkSavage wrote: »

And yet the Jews acted like it was another holocaust when Kevin Myers made a joke about them.

Just a few of them and he should have kept his job after an apology.

Jim2007

Jerry Attrick wrote: »

This idiot should be recalled to Iveagh House, given a dressing down and then reassigned to Peking or Rangoon where he'll find something more important to write letters about.

He is absolutely correct and doing what he was instructed to do.

Clearly you have not got a clue how these things work.

TomTomTim

MkSavage wrote: »

Just pointing out hypocrisy.

It is hypocritical and should be called out on the grounds of hypocrisy and not offence. If we try and level of playing field of the right to be offended, then we all end up taking offense at everything. We should be trying to move in the other direction, and not contribute to our hypersensitive world.

Faugheen

I personally can’t stand stand the leprechaun nonsense. I won’t lose sleep over it but it’s irritating more than anything.

The one that really gets my goat is “top o’ the mornin’ to ya,” because no Irish person actually says that.

I’ve no issue with Dan Mulhall calling this out, personally.

Timberrrrrrrr

biko wrote: »

‘Leprechaun economics’ is fine.
People are dying to be offended these days.

Would the Jewish person be ok with someone calling it Yid economics?

Calahonda52

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Would the Jewish person be ok with someone calling it Yid economics?

Or foreskin economics

Dempo1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'd rather be the country that doesn't turn into drama queens over a little joke.

Couldn't agree more, mother of God we've turned into a nation of whingers. I would note the Author of the Article has done a lot of analysis on the financial crash and more notably the ludicrous Bank bail out, His discription of our economy was bang on the money (no pun intended)

I suspect the Ambassador more concerned about hearing some hard truths that offends the government he represents.

One eyed Jack

Faugheen wrote: »

The one that really gets my goat is “top o’ the mornin’ to ya,” because no Irish person actually says that.

Well, this is awkward… :pac:


One of the biggest personalities on YouTube, Irish btw -

Jacksepticeye Launches Top Of The Mornin Coffee Company

It’s been his intro for years.

MkSavage

MkSavage wrote: »

Just pointing out hypocrisy.

It's better to rise above it.

Allinall

Allinall wrote: »

Imagine being outraged by someone being offended by something like this.

Who's outraged? I'm laughing at you.

whisky_galore

Couldn't care less, some of our own commentators here used the same phrase.

Dry your eyes lads. Thin skinned cry babies.

whisky_galore

MkSavage wrote: »

The problem is, if you called Krugman a shylock, you'd be in big trouble.

Jews can't handle banter.

That's his problem, not mine.

iffandonlyif

MkSavage wrote: »

Hmm well Jews are very sensitive to even the mildest banter. So don't talk **** to others when you can't handle it yourself.

MkSavage wrote: »

And yet the Jews acted like it was another holocaust when Kevin Myers made a joke about them.

MkSavage wrote: »

The problem is, if you called Krugman a shylock, you'd be in big trouble.

Jews can't handle banter.

MkSavage wrote: »

It's the problem of Jews in general.

Is there something you want to tell us?

joseywhales

We could adopt "Shylock economics" but only american obesity could support such an economy.

whisky_galore

MkSavage wrote: »

It's the problem of Jews in general.

To be fair, and you're probably a bit ignorant about this, the shylock thing is to do with 100s of years of Europeans being sh1tty to Jews and those occupations were the few ones open to them.

You could hardly say Irish people were persecuted in the same way, esp when many of them have no problem donning a big foam leprechaun hat of a normal Paddys Day.

AllGunsBlazing

Meh, Krugman has been needling us for a long time.

Pretty much had us written off as a first world nation ten years ago when the world economy hit the skids. I mean it was bad all around but it was almost like he expected Ireland to be thrown back to the days of horse and cart.

Overheal

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Well, this is awkward… :pac:


One of the biggest personalities on YouTube, Irish btw -

Jacksepticeye Launches Top Of The Mornin Coffee Company

It’s been his intro for years.

This seems very aunt jemima in terms of cashing in on popular stereotypes.

Adelman of Beamfleot

"We need to talk about Paul Krugman"

"Why Paul Krugman is problematic"

"If you don't have a problem with Paul Krugman then you're part of the problem"

Just thinking about the titles of my upcoming blog posts where i shriek about how outraged I am about all this

Shaunoc

Calahonda52 wrote:

Or foreskin economics

That's got economic potential

AtticusFinch86

Embarrassing that people are so easily offended. There are many things in the world worth being offended and outraged by, this is not one of them. Just because other people or groups get so easily offended and thrive on victimhood, doesnt mean we all should.

Sunny Disposition

He’s right to be fair, the term leprechaun economics was mildly offensive as a one off, but certainly referring to the Irish in general as leprechauns is unacceptable and probably damaging to us when we fight our corner on corporate tax.

The origin of the leprauchan is an insult and the leprauchan economics name was also designed as an insult.

On this occasion, I think it's right to take offence because it was meant.

Donald Trump

AtticusFinch86 wrote: »

Embarrassing that people are so easily offended. There are many things in the world worth being offended and outraged by, this is not one of them. Just because other people or groups get so easily offended and thrive on victimhood, doesnt mean we all should.

So if you went to America and some yank started slagging you and calling you a little leprechaun and asking where are your "lucky charms" would ya doff the cap at him and smile and maybe do a little jig for him or would ya tell him to fuck off?

Quantum Erasure

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, that's a bit silly.

It's a bit Irish all-right

titan18

whisky_galore wrote: »

To be fair, and you're probably a bit ignorant about this, the shylock thing is to do with 100s of years of Europeans being sh1tty to Jews and those occupations were the few ones open to them.

You could hardly say Irish people were persecuted in the same way, esp when many of them have no problem donning a big foam leprechaun hat of a normal Paddys Day.

Irish were persecuted though. The famine, prison ships, looked down on as immigrants in the US and UK, the whole no blacks, no dogs, no Irish, Cromwell's campaign here etc

The leprechaun stuff is a slur and a stereotype so it shouldn't be accepted.

KaneToad

Krugman is using the term in a dismissive and derogatory way. Mulhall is right to call him out on it.

I don't accept the argument that people are easily offended.

Stihl waters

iffandonlyif wrote: »

There is so, so big a difference.

I was dubious until I noticed you've used so twice to emphasize your point, I believe you now

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

KaneToad wrote: »

Krugman is using the term in a dismissive and derogatory way. Mulhall is right to call him out on it.

I don't accept the argument that people are easily offended.

Because we're the victims.

Everything is PC and people are overly-sensiitve, but as soon as we're in the target group - oh no - that's dismissive and derogatory.

titan18

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Because we're the victims.

Everything is PC and people are overly-sensiitve, but as soon as we're in the target group - oh no - that's dismissive and derogatory.

Well, sure, if the world is going to be all PC and sensitive, it's only right that it's that way to every group isn't it, and not that some groups you have to PC and sensitive towards and other you can say what you want about.

Ideally the whole world would be less sensitive but if you can't be say derogatory stereotypes about blacks, Jewish or whoever, why would it be fine to say it about the Irish.

People are getting sensitive over the word leprechaun. A ****ing mythical creature.

Get over yourselves.

(Bu... Bu... the Jews)

Augme

Amazing to read how upset people are about a simple letter that written by an Irish Ambassador. That snowflakes for you though I guess. You'd think people wouldnt be so sensitive.

NSAman

Augme wrote: »

Amazing to read how upset people are about a simple letter that written by an Irish Ambassador. That snowflakes for you though I guess. You'd think people wouldnt be so sensitive.

Bris Boy had it coming!