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The Delta variant

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Only 2 posts on the last couple of pages about Delta Variant?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Onion Bhaji;
    another eejit who doesnt understand how vaccines are approved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    UK Freedom day figures

    1,200,000 Tests carried out
    10,633 positives cases
    1,189,367 Negative cases
    5 Deaths ( all of which were backdated )

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    Hardly supports a 4 week delay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Don't know if this is the right thread for this, but I just picked up a cold a few days ago but I just read today that some of the Delta Variant symptoms are similar, like runny noses, headaches, coughs etc. Are people being advised to get tested if they have these symptoms?

    I've been operating as if I have a normal cold but wondering if people with those symptoms should be getting tested and isolating.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Don't know if this is the right thread for this, but I just picked up a cold a few days ago but I just read today that some of the Delta Variant symptoms are similar, like runny noses, headaches, coughs etc. Are people being advised to get tested if they have these symptoms?

    I've been operating as if I have a normal cold but wondering if people with those symptoms should be getting tested and isolating.

    Yes get tested asap and isolate until results would be the best course of action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Yes get tested asap and isolate until results would be the best course of action.

    It's strange because I only noticed it by chance in BBC article and I haven't seen any official announcement. I wouldn't have any of the ones listed on the HSE app and going by that I wouldn't need testing.

    Has there been any formal guidance from the HSE on this?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    VonLuck wrote: »
    It's strange because I only noticed it by chance in BBC article and I haven't seen any official announcement. I wouldn't have any of the ones listed on the HSE app and going by that I wouldn't need testing.

    Has there been any formal guidance from the HSE on this?

    Nope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,587 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    HSE confirms that 20% of cases over the last week have been sequenced as the Delta variant and it is responsible for some large outbreaks.

    It’s here so.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Don't know if this is the right thread for this, but I just picked up a cold a few days ago but I just read today that some of the Delta Variant symptoms are similar, like runny noses, headaches, coughs etc. Are people being advised to get tested if they have these symptoms?

    I've been operating as if I have a normal cold but wondering if people with those symptoms should be getting tested and isolating.
    FWIW I got a headcold type dose a few weeks ago, as did a friend of mine and his family, one of his kids brought it home. He's in my "bubble" so I caught it that way. I was tested and it came back negative, as was he and same result. He was told by his GP that there is a non covid bug doing the rounds and she had several such patients all negative for covid. My symptoms were a sore throat that lasted a couple of hours and was mild, followed by the more snot in my head than I thought the human body could produce. :D I didn't have headache or cough, my friend had both. The symptoms were rapid onset, woke up with them basically had a horrible day and night and the next morning the symptoms were pretty much gone. A "24 hour bug" as it were.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    HSE confirms that 20% of cases over the last week have been sequenced as the Delta variant and it is responsible for some large outbreaks.

    It’s here so.


    Sadly it's out of the box and may delay the indoor opening of pubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,121 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Sadly it's out of the box and may delay the indoor opening of pubs.

    MHQ worked out great didn't it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    MHQ worked out great didn't it.


    It worked. No Brazil variant or S African variants either of major consequence. Not only that the Indian variant has been slow to get or spread here until now so more are vaccinated now. Perhaps the vaccines rollout will beat its spread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    MHQ worked out great didn't it.

    Glad you agree it succeeded with its aim of slowing the spread of the variants. Nice to see such vocal support of the policy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,121 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    astrofool wrote: »
    Glad you agree it succeeded with its aim of slowing the spread of the variants. Nice to see such vocal support of the policy.

    Yeah pity it didn't go the whole way and stop the delta variant.

    So it really isn't that great after all.

    They will always find a way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭scouserstation


    Wibbs wrote: »
    FWIW I got a headcold type dose a few weeks ago, as did a friend of mine and his family, one of his kids brought it home. He's in my "bubble" so I caught it that way. I was tested and it came back negative, as was he and same result. He was told by his GP that there is a non covid bug doing the rounds and she had several such patients all negative for covid. My symptoms were a sore throat that lasted a couple of hours and was mild, followed by the more snot in my head than I thought the human body could produce. :D I didn't have headache or cough, my friend had both. The symptoms were rapid onset, woke up with them basically had a horrible day and night and the next morning the symptoms were pretty much gone. A "24 hour bug" as it were.

    Also pollen count has been quite high in places, a lot of people getting nasty doses of hayfever, there seems to be a lot of it going around some of the symptoms could easily be mistaken for covid symptoms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Don't know if this is the right thread for this, but I just picked up a cold a few days ago but I just read today that some of the Delta Variant symptoms are similar, like runny noses, headaches, coughs etc. Are people being advised to get tested if they have these symptoms?

    I've been operating as if I have a normal cold but wondering if people with those symptoms should be getting tested and isolating.

    This guy started off similar, had his two shots, and ended up testing positive
    https://twitter.com/Tweet_Dec/status/1406556676057088000?s=19
    https://twitter.com/Tweet_Dec/status/1407052670997835780?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    MHQ worked out great didn't it.

    Well look at the UK. They added Bangladesh and Pakistan on the red list but left India off it, even though it was in a dire situation. Then they added India to the red list but it took 3 weeks for it to be implemented. In that time 20k passengers entered the UK from India unimpeded in a big rush.

    That is how the delta variant took over so quickly there. And sadly our exposure to the UK has us weak to keeping it out, there's no MHQ between us and UK. Last I heard Delta accounted for 2.5% of cases in Germany. Almost 100% in UK. If the UK added India to the red list much quicker we'd all be laughing for the summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    5 Deaths ( all of which were backdated )

    Tony and Co must be loving the HSE hack thing. For about six weeks now they have had an excuse to not tell us what they don't want us to hear- that next to nobody has died of Covid this summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    saabsaab wrote: »
    It worked. No Brazil variant or S African variants either of major consequence. Not only that the Indian variant has been slow to get or spread here until now so more are vaccinated now. Perhaps the vaccines rollout will beat its spread?

    Pretty much everyone vulnerable is now double vaxxed.

    Tony needs to come out and clearly tell us why we need to care about this, otherwise he should be charged with using a mass communication medium to broadcast material likely to cause distress. NPHET's psychological war on the people is about 13 months past its sell by date.

    I refuse to trust a government that claims suicide rates during all of this have remained relatively static.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    Pretty much everyone vulnerable is now double vaxxed.

    Untrue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Untrue.

    My dad is 66, healthy and got his second last week via the online application.

    Logically speaking virtually everybody older and frailer than him should be covered by now. Some may have requested it and slipped through the cracks, but it is rare.

    I saw some lunatic on Twitter having a cry that pharmacies were giving out vaccines but she wasn't herself given a vaccine yet. She's 50 odd :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Yeah pity it didn't go the whole way and stop the delta variant.

    So it really isn't that great after all.

    They will always find a way.

    You're flip flopping now, saying it's great for slowing down the variant spread, then saying it's not great because it didn't stop it, which you know is not the purpose of it (otherwise you wouldn't have called it great surely?).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    There’s many high risk and 60+ age group not 2nd vacced and worse they got Astra Zeneca.
    I don’t see a surge with this delta virus during the summer at least what I mean is a higher number of cases won’t lead to hospitalisation. I think for the summer we’ll be ok. But we need to keep vaccinating and we need to get 70% of people fully vacced before October, or we’ll be in trouble. I’m hopeful the vaccination program will outstrip this mutation but we must all keep our distance, wear our masks and wash our hands till then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Pretty much everyone vulnerable is now double vaxxed.

    Tony needs to come out and clearly tell us why we need to care about this, otherwise he should be charged with using a mass communication medium to broadcast material likely to cause distress. NPHET's psychological war on the people is about 13 months past its sell by date.

    I refuse to trust a government that claims suicide rates during all of this have remained relatively static.


    Those that haven't jabs could catch this virulent variant and if the numbers are high enough quickly among the younger groups some will become seriously ill or worse. As for suicide from what I have seen it is down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    screamer wrote: »
    There’s many high risk and 60+ age group not 2nd vacced and worse they got Astra Zeneca.
    I don’t see a surge with this delta virus during the summer at least what I mean is a higher number of cases won’t lead to hospitalisation.

    So why fear it?
    I think for the summer we’ll be ok. But we need to keep vaccinating and we need to get 70% of people fully vacced before October, or we’ll be in trouble. I’m hopeful the vaccination program will outstrip this mutation but we must all keep our distance, wear our masks and wash our hands till then.

    :pac: There's just something so servile about all of that. Virtually everyone vulnerable is now protected, who is all that bollix in aid of?

    Hopefully in the next few weeks we see a serious change in people refusing to wear masks on buses, trains etc. Whole thing is psychological abuse at this stage and nothing more.

    I'll take the vaccine, but if I was a woman under 50 I'd be seriously cautious. We have moved from "the vaccines are safe" to it's worth the risk (nobody is quite willing to point out whether in the UK more perfectly healthy young women have died from Covid or died from the vaccine. It seems nobody wants to touch it)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Those that haven't jabs could catch this virulent variant and if the numbers are high enough quickly among the younger groups some will become seriously ill or worse. As for suicide from what I have seen it is down.

    :pac::pac::pac:

    My God what absolute nonsense. Young people should be dropping like flies in the UK by now so?

    The government are absolutely lying if they claim suicide is down. This has been the darkest year in modern history. Most have been stripped of our friendships, relationships (in particular the ability to form new ones), our jobs, our incomes, our plans for the future, we have seen Covid related house price increases, the longest lockdown in the Western world, a ruling class that took pleasure in drip feeding us absolute garbage with not a hint of hope when the likes of the UK were promoting Freedom Day last February. 2020 into 2021 was the War on Fun, the War on Happiness. We had politicians gleefully claiming pubs could still be closed three years from now. Martin laughed at a journalist who asked for a pub re opening date, saying he must be thirsty. The abuse we suffered is unprecedented in any other country.

    Of course knowing our mob some suicides were probably marked down as a Covid death.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    .....
    Hopefully in the next few weeks we see a serious change in people refusing to wear masks on buses, trains etc. Whole thing is psychological abuse at this stage and nothing more.
    .......
    Being obnoxious feckers you mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    They come at night, mostly. Gob****es in this case though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭crooked cockney villain


    Tenger wrote: »
    Being obnoxious feckers you mean?

    Refusing to be abused by NPHET.

    Not one member of NPHET has come out and said why 5000 Covid cases a day here would matter if all vulnerable people are vaccinated .

    Not one.

    We are already seeing this in the UK, thousands and thousands of cases but barely anybody getting ill off it.

    This is psychological war and nothing else. Imagine the overtime these lads have taken in the last year on this meal ticket.

    Also suits the government as housing demonstrations are banned until at least the Spring.


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