Ryder Cup 2020 [Official Thread!]

abff

Good article, but I have to take issue with one comment that is incorrect, but is widely seen as being correct. The comment is that Ryder Cup matches are usually very close affairs.

This was certainly true from 1987 to 1999, when none of the 7 matches was won by more than 15-13 and even 2002 was close enough at 15.5-12.5. But the next three Ryder Cups were won by margins of 9, 9 and 5 points respectively and after two close competitions ending 14.5 - 13.5 in 2010 and 2012, the subsequent three have been won by margins of 5, 6 and 7 points.

So only two out of the last eight Ryder Cups have been close. I guess it’s the close ones we remember, because they are the most exciting.

srfc d16

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117889882#Comment_117889882

Were any of these games won early and then matches that were still on course conceded? I don't really remember how they broke down but it could explain the winning margins

Mantis Toboggan

One thing that's needs to stop going forward is the home captain being able to set the course up to suit their team. Needs to be independent. Think that's why the winning margins have been increasing.

Mantis Toboggan

Will McDowell make captain or is it poulter after Westwood?

Joe_ Public

I recall a period of around 20-30 minutes when it looked like there might be a serious momentum switch in 2018, around midway through the singles or thereabouts. Didn't happen obviously but it was interesting for a while, so while it might not always be close according to the scoreboard, it usually does come down to the final few matches more often than not.

abff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117890402#Comment_117890402

No, they play each match to its conclusion.

As to it being due to course setup, 5 of the 6 matches with wide margins were home wins, so I guess it might be a factor.

abff

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117890606#Comment_117890606

I don't think McDowell will make captain. There have been three recent captains from Ireland and I think we might have to wait for Rory or Shane before we get another one. Probably Westwood next, but they might give the following one to someone from the continent (Stenson, perhaps) and the one after that to Poulter, followed by Sergio.

abff

Having said the above, Graeme has been involved at the players' representative level for quite a while, has been vice captain more than once and the 2027 Ryder Cup is in Ireland, so who knows?

techdiver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117890935#Comment_117890935

I would say McDowell will definitely make captain at some point. Multiple Ryder Cup player and major champion. Don't even think it's in question. Could very well get it for Adare Manor.

redzerdrog

I dont think shane/rory is a definite combo, I'd love to see it though.

I think we could see Shane with Fleetwood and or Rahm at some some stage

I think Rory/Poulter could play a lot together

Also think Garcia/ Weisberger will be a partnership we see

slave1

I think Paddy is going to play everyone each day, depth is there, maybe Westy and Poults just once a day given their age now

Speak Now

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117892866#Comment_117892866

And form

Mantis Toboggan

Stenson is as Vice captain as expected, nice to have him involved, future captain imo.

SeeMoreBut

Ryder Cup: Brooks Koepka says US v Europe contest is 'odd' and 'hectic' - BBC Sport

Zinger wants him out if he doesn't want to be there. I don't think many USA players really have any interest in playing.

Season is over for them.

If you asked Eldrick about his achievements and records I don't think Ryder Cup will be said without prompting.

Mantis Toboggan

Sounds like brooks doesn't want to play foresomes! Tiger wouldn't talk about his achievements in the ryder cup because there aren't many, has a terrible ryder cup record.

It's the only thing that Europe has over the US, team spirit. Will it be enough to get them over the line who knows.

Joe_ Public

You wouldn't be very encouraged reading that from an American perspective, but at least Koepka is being straight up and honest about it, not trying to fake it and talk about how much "fun" they're all having, as they often do. A shame, though, that some of these guys can't seem to figure out that everything that's unique and different about the RC is precisely what makes it great.

Ormus

I’m often torn between thinking Brooks is refreshingly honest and thinking is he just a bit of a ****?

Why does he feel the need to tell the press this? Would it not be better for the team if he kept his mouth shut at least til it’s over? Why make yourself the story?

finglashoop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117898473#Comment_117898473

dont think he should be bashed for being honest.

its a rare thing as most sportspeople are media trained to boredom.

Mantis Toboggan

Wouldn't be surprised if Stricker is secretly hoping Brooks pulls out through injury and he can get Billy Horshel or someone else unto the team.

Dr. Bre

It’s a pity the Americans don’t have the same team spirit as the Europeans . Too much money in the pga tour now? On paper should always win but Europe normally do

Ormus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117898545#Comment_117898545

His honesty is always negative though. Seems like a sour individual.

SeeMoreBut

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117898902#Comment_117898902

Honesty is good. World is turning into don't say anything if not positive. If you criticise someone you are a bad person

Rikand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117899643#Comment_117899643

there is a difference between being critical and being a giant douche though

yaboya1

Tiger Woods has won one Ryder Cup in his entire career.

The Americans don't care about it anywhere near as much as the Europeans.

Joe_ Public

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117900722#Comment_117900722

The one he did win in Boston, they certainly looked like they cared that time anyway! I think they do care, most of them at least, but the chemistry has never come naturally as it has for the Europeans. And once you have to work at it, the harder it gets. I think it makes it all the more interesting but series could do with a close contest this year and, dare i say it, even a home win.

slave1

Really surprised to see Rahm playing this week, given his age and #1 he should be playing all 5 matches in less than a weeks time

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117902270#Comment_117902270

Yeah I'd something to do with money and sponsors, Harrington isn't happy.

Dr. Bre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117902270#Comment_117902270

Only level par yesterday . Maybe a missed cut coming up

Trampas

Where did you see Harrington not pleased with Rahm playing

Rikand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117902525#Comment_117902525

got a very bad stomach bug tuesday, had to miss the pro am wednesday. Said the bug was worse than anything he felt with covid. Probably still feeling the after effects yesterday for his first round