World Snooker Seniors Championship 2021

gormdubhgorm

https://www.bbc.com/sport/snooker/56966164

All matches in the last 16 and Best of 5.

Thursday 6th May at 12noon
Match 1 – Lee Walker v Darren Morgan
Match 2 – David Lilley v Philip Williams

Thursday 6th May at 7pm
Match 3 – Stephen Hendry v Patsy Fagan
Match 4 – Mick Judge v Patrick Wallace

Friday 7th May at 12 noon
Match 5 – Ken Doherty v Joe Johnson
Match 6 – Dennis Taylor v Barry Pinches

Friday 7th May at 7pm
Match 7 – Jimmy White v Tony Knowles
Match 8 – Igor Figueiredo v John Parrott

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Ken has unfinished business, as he threw it away last year against Jimmy.

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Coverage: Watch live on BBC iPlayer, Red Button, online and the BBC Sport app (sessions at 12:00 BST and 19:00 BST)

fran38

Winner not easy to predict. Pinches, Lilley, Jimmy and Igor are ranked near enough to each other. You just don't know what you're going to get with any of them.

Joe_ Public

Strong line up for the seniors. Love to see Ken complete the set of world, world u/21, world amateur and senior titles, a record will never be equalled. Hendry v Figueiredo would be a really interesting qf. Igor looked really sharp in crucible qualifying but hendry with a solid years work behind him should be very competitive at this level. Wouldn't surprise me to see the winner of that win it out.

Wouldn't be ruling out Mick Judge either, reigning uk seniors champ and definitely well capable of making his presence felt at this level. And will be nice to see Patsy at the crucible again, this time with a cue in his hand and not merely being pointed out by Dennis Taylor!

BonnieSituation

The withdrawals are real. Is this gonna be live on the website?

gormdubhgorm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

The withdrawals are real. Is this gonna be live on the website?

I see they changed the website link I put in the OP.

If I remember I seem to remember they mentioned digital platforms and the red button.

I have the red button channel on satellite so that is how I am going to watch it (hopefully).

But I remember the final the last year I went ape. In the middle of it, full tension. They decided to cut the red button feed to the online platform. I don't have VPN's or the like.

EDIT:

I updated the link to this one:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/snooker/56966164

Coverage: Watch live on BBC iPlayer, Red Button, online and the BBC Sport app (sessions at 12:00 BST and 19:00 BST)

BonnieSituation

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I see they changed the website link I put in the OP.

If I remember I seem to remember they mentioned digital platforms and the red button.

I have the red button channel on satellite so that is how I am going to watch it (hopefully).

But I remember the final the last year I went ape, In the middle of it, full tension they decided to cut the feed to the online platform. I don't have VPN's or the like.

I remember the furore last year alright. Maddening.

Arthur Daley

Patsy Fagan's first time playing at the Crucible since 1985

Jimmy v Tony Knowles is a repeat of a match that happened a few times in the 80s. Jimmy fairly easily beat Tony in the 1988 q/f and I'd expect him to win here this week.

Hendry is going to be much stronger than he was last August. After Ken he'll probably be favourite I'd think

Arthur Daley

Yeah the red button for the live final was taken over by a repeat of women's golf. A live sporting event shouldn't be replaced with a repeat of sport

BonnieSituation

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Yeah the red button for the live final was taken over by a repeat of women's golf. A live sporting event shouldn't be replaced with a repeat of sport

A live sporting event shouldn't be replaced by anything. BBC are awful for that.

I remember watching the women's ice hockey semi final at VAN2014 live on BBC and they cut right in the middle of the 3rd period to a discussion on the curling that happened 2 days previously. I love curling, but Jesus Christ.

You saw the state of their chopping and changing last weekend for the snooker. Brutal.

gormdubhgorm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I remember the furore last year alright. Maddening.

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Yeah the red button for the live final was taken over by a repeat of women's golf. A live sporting event shouldn't be replaced with a repeat of sport

BonnieSituation wrote: »

A live sporting event shouldn't be replaced by anything. BBC are awful for that.

I remember watching the women's ice hockey semi final at VAN2014 live on BBC and they cut right in the middle of the 3rd period to a discussion on the curling that happened 2 days previously. I love curling, but Jesus Christ.

You saw the state of their chopping and changing last weekend for the snooker. Brutal.

Thanks for the info on the women's golf repeat. I could not remember what was played instead.

I sent in a 'comment' via the BBC website explaining what they did last year and not to cut live snooker coverage again for repeats of sport. Plus I explained how I was from Ireland etc and they should think of viewers outside the UK.

It said on the website to send a comment and not a complaint (if possible) as many of them are working from home due to covid19.

When you think of it there is large ROI interest in this tournament, a lot of representation.

Joe_ Public

Remember the time they cut off a ronnie match at the crucible to show a repeat of Some Mothers Do Ave Em. Been going on for years. Also have a vague recollection of them once cutting off a ronnie v judd match at a critical point. But that was merely the live broadcast, cutting off the red button is a new low. World Snooker bends over backwards to accommodate the broadcasters and this is how they get repaid!

SteM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Thanks for the info on the women's golf repeat. I could not remember what was played instead.

I sent in a 'comment' via the BBC website explaining what they did last year and not to cut live snooker coverage again for repeats of sport. Plus I explained how I was from Ireland etc and they should think of viewers outside the UK.

It said on the website to send a comment and not a complaint (if possible) as many of them are working from home due to covid19.

When you think of it there is large ROI interest in this tournament, a lot of representation.

The BBC don't care about viewers in Ireland, why should they really? You don't pay them a TV license fee.

gormdubhgorm

SteM wrote: »

The BBC don't care about viewers in Ireland, why should they really? You don't pay them a TV license fee.

Fair point, I sent 'World Senior Snooker' an email as well giving out. Saying it is a shame their tournament and viewers from Ireland are treated so shabbily by the BBC.
Plus note should be taken of the amount of representation from the ROI - Doherty, Fagan, Judge.
Plus I hoped World Senior Snooker would put more pressure on the BBC.

SteM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Fair point, I sent 'World Senior Snooker' an email as well giving out. Saying it is a shame their tournament and viewers from Ireland are treated so shabbily by the BBC.
Plus note should be taken of the amount of representation from the ROI - Doherty, Fagan, Judge.
Plus I hoped World Senior Snooker would put more pressure on the BBC.

Maybe you should contact RTE asking them why they're not showing it?

gormdubhgorm

SteM wrote: »

Maybe you should contact RTE asking them why they're not showing it?

Very good point. I will get on to them next.

Rothko

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Matchroom are showing this too.

gormdubhgorm

Rothko wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Matchroom are showing this too.

You're spot on

https://matchroom.live/sports/snooker

Joe_ Public

Anyone have a matchroom subscription or know who would normally do commentary on it?

zuutroy

Whoever isn't playing will be commentating, if I remember rightly from last year, possibly with Rob Walker. It could almost be renamed The Commentators Cup.

Rothko

Yeah, I remember Dennis and Ken were commentating last year.

Rothko

Great century by Morgan. That red into the green pocket was fantastic.

Glenman

How did Patsy Fagan qualify for the event, I see he is 70 years of age!

Joe_ Public

Glenman wrote: »

How did Patsy Fagan qualify for the event, I see he is 70 years of age!

There were a few withdrawals because of travel restrictions, cliff thorburn and a couple of others, so Patsy was one of those invited to make up the numbers.

gormdubhgorm

Come on Patsy - Hendry implied he might be a bit tired from his commentary!

gormdubhgorm

First frame to Hendry v Fagan.

Patsy should really have won that frame he had 24 on the board. Missed black off the spot when he only needed another 40 ish.

Hendry knocked in a 40 plus break to finish on 73 - had a good few chances to score.

Arthur Daley

Patsy is from the old school. None of this walk on music. Let's just get on with it.

gormdubhgorm

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Patsy is from the old school. None of this walk on music. Let's just get on with it.

Yeah I loved that. Rob Walker was saying to him, you didn't wait for the walk on music.

And Patsy kinda looking at him as if he did not know what 'walk on' music was!

gormdubhgorm

Ball Run Hendry when it was a pink ball game for Fagan - second frame. Snookered Fagan.

Black ball game - Hendry goes 2-0 - jammy git.

joebloggs32

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Yeah I loved that. Rob Walker was saying to him, you didn't wait for the walk on music.

And Patsy kinda looking at him as if he did not know what 'walk on' music was!

Poor Patsy hasn't even got a knickname

Joe_ Public

Shame for patsy there, a few decent pots to his credit at least. Hendry looks like he hasn't had a decent sleep for a while.

gormdubhgorm

joebloggs32 wrote: »

Poor Patsy hasn't even got a knickname

Yeah I saw that!

It was a bit cruel listing all their 'achievement stats' side by side.

Titles - 75 v 3
Career Highlight - 7 times world champion v UK Champion 1977

gormdubhgorm

Hendry looks in the groove in this third frame.

gormdubhgorm

Funny how Hendry kicked into gear from looking all over the place, to knocking in an 80 plus.

Hendry 3 Fagan 0 - no way is it a fair reflection of the match.

Joe_ Public

Hendry: "My cue ball was social distancing from the object ball." Nice topical reference!

Hoping Mick can show some good form. Only a couple of years since he came really close to getting his main tour card, if he's in decent nick, I'd expect him to be too strong for Paddy.

gormdubhgorm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Hendry: "My cue ball was social distancing from the object ball." Nice topical reference!

Hoping Mick can show some good form. Only a couple of years since he came really close to getting his main tour card, if he's in decent nick, I'd expect him to be too strong for Paddy.

Dennis already biased towards Paddy, 'He knows my sister well, she still lives in Dungannon'

Paddy is looking good so far first frame.

I checked Mick's page on wiki he hold the record for losing 7 last qualifying rounds for the crucible. Sounds like torture!

gormdubhgorm

Wallace 1- Judge 0 first frame - well deserved good two visits.

Joe_ Public

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Dennis already biased towards Paddy, 'He knows my sister well, she still lives in Dungannon'

Paddy is looking good so far first frame.

I checked Mick's page on wiki he hold the record for losing 7 last qualifying rounds for the crucible. Sounds like torture!

Didnt know that. Mick sometimes looked like he might be on the verge of a big breakthrough, just never seemed to make that final leap. Was close enough to top 16 couple of times.

I might have underestimated paddy here, looks in good shape. Mick struggling to find his range.

BonnieSituation

how are ye watching?

Matchroom is a brutal site

Arthur Daley

Red button

BonnieSituation

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Red button

That rules me out.

gormdubhgorm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

That rules me out.

Give you an update Judge was only red-colour-red from going 1-1.

But Wallace stole it on a comeback clearance.

Could take the stuffing out of Judge. 2-0 Wallace - first to three.

93% pot success Paddy Wallace.

Joe_ Public

Contrast between this and earlier match. Chalk and cheese.

gormdubhgorm

Great Mick Judge rally 2-1 to Wallace.

gormdubhgorm

Somehow looks like it will be 2-2 in the Wallace-Judge match. Really topsy turvy frame.
Wallace seems to be dipping in form.

gormdubhgorm

Wallace has found something from the depths good pot on an opening red. Following by a long straight controlled blue.

gormdubhgorm

Wallace frame and match winning visit of 80 plus.
Final Score 3-2 v Judge

Very high level in the last frame, has to be one of the favorites after this?

Joe_ Public

That was quite an enjoyable contest, Patrick seemed to be buckling a bit under the pressure but then produced a lovely tidy finish. You could tell it means a hell of a lot to these guys. Looks like a wallace-doherty sf to me. Both definitely there to win it.

gormdubhgorm

Joe_ Public wrote: »

That was quite an enjoyable contest, Patrick seemed to be buckling a bit under the pressure but then produced a lovely tidy finish. You could tell it means a hell of a lot to these guys. Looks like a wallace-doherty sf to me. Both definitely there to win it.

Nice touch with Wallace making sure to dedicate the win to his Mam, who is not well.
The way he played in parts would not have been out of place on the regular tour.

BonnieSituation

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Give you an update Judge was only red-colour-red from going 1-1.

But Wallace stole it on a comeback clearance.

Could take the stuffing out of Judge. 2-0 Wallace - first to three.

93% pot success Paddy Wallace.

Cheers for that.

I'm gonna get me a day pass for matchroom tomorrow for Ken's match.

gormdubhgorm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Cheers for that.

I'm gonna get me a day pass for matchroom tomorrow for Ken's match.

The second game was good game. Wallace v Judge

First game Hendry was blessed against 70 year old Patsy Fagan. It was not good quality until the last frame. Hendry sort of rattled himself by his own annoyance of missing silly shots. There were flashes of Hendry old shots though and he clicked into groove in the last frame.
But you could tell Hendry was embarrassed the way he played overall, and almost felt guilty winning.

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Dennis himself said told people to ignore his game against Barry Pinches tomorrow - But he was looking forward to watch Doherty v Johnson.

I was half thinking for the Doherty v Johnson match it would be good craic if each player 'commentated' on the others shots!

AllForIt

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Cheers for that.

I'm gonna get me a day pass for matchroom tomorrow for Ken's match.

I think it's free. It's streaming for me anyway and I haven't paid anything.