Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XI *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

marno21

The guidelines have a “driving alone in a car with a mask on” level of risk mitigation about them.

The indoor guidelines, for a country which will be heavily vaccinated by that stage, are rather laughable.

stephenjmcd

marno21 wrote: »

The guidelines have a “driving alone in a car with a mask on” level of risk mitigation about them.

The indoor guidelines, for a country which will be heavily vaccinated by that stage, are rather laughable.

The indoor guidelines which are caveated by current advice as it stands today and not what the advice might be in a few weeks time.

People should be aware that this is the first paragraph, LIVING document. i.e subject to change at short notice.

"This is a living document which means as Government restrictions and Public Health guidelines evolve, this document will also evolve to reflect new Government advice and changes to protocols when they emerge. "

There could of course be changes made in the end of June review and again during July

Boggles

2 meters, no time limit.

Sorted.

10 meters won't be a problem in the haunted shíthole I frequent.

hynesie08

So, since the substantial meal is done away with, what's to stop 4 friends booking a table for 8 hours, changing the lead contact each time?

joe40

Are they still talking about time limits, I heard 105 mins mentioned. I get the need for ongoing restrictions and guidelines, but time limit, especially in pubs, seems counterproductive to me.

Boggles

joe40 wrote: »

Are they still talking about time limits, I heard 105 mins mentioned. I get the need for ongoing restrictions and guidelines, but time limit, especially in pubs, seems counterproductive to me.

Depends on the establishment if it suits them, no proper pub I know of will impose any sort of time limit.

Looking through the guidelines, there will be zero implemented in my local.

Maybe wearing a mask in the jacks.

gozunda

joe40 wrote: »

Are they still talking about time limits, I heard 105 mins mentioned. I get the need for ongoing restrictions and guidelines, but time limit, especially in pubs, seems counterproductive to me.

The latest I heard - is that If a premises chooses to have the recommended two metres social distance between tables (rather than 1) they don’t have to have a 105 minute limit indoors.

Plus theres no time limit for outdoor dining which is to come back on June 7.

opinionated3

Boggles wrote: »

Depends on the establishment if it suits them, no proper pub I know of will impose any sort of time limit.

Looking through the guidelines, there will be zero implemented in my local.

Maybe wearing a mask in the jacks.

Hope all the pubs refuse to implement such ridiculous rules

Boggles

opinionated3 wrote: »

Hope all the pubs refuse to implement such ridiculous rules

Like I said if it suits them, you'll be told leave, if it doesn't drink on.

TBH you can't blame the pubs/restaurants for trying to squeeze a few more sittings in, I wouldn't begrudge that for a couple of months.

Also it will mean in reality more people can go out for a meal.

prunudo

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Glad to see that places can open and trade but personally I'd have no interest in visiting anywhere under these conditions. Which might be half the point.

Such a convoluted list of do's and don'ts. The obsession with rules and regulating every aspect of life contuines. Seems the powers that be still want us to be running scared from covid rather living with it. You'd be forgiven for thinking the vaccine didn't work in protecting the vulnerable and healthcare settings.

archfi

What does this one actually mean?
Is it only 6 at a table if all above 13 years of age, but 15 if there is at least one 12 year old?!?

"A maximum of six people aged 13 years and over will be allowed per table when restaurants, pubs and cafes open next month.
However, Covid-19 safety guidelines issued this morning by Fáilte Ireland also say that when accompanying children under the age of 12 are included, up to 15 people will be allowed at the one table."
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0526/1224013-covid-19-ireland/

castletownman

Seems a bit perverse that a group of children can have more leeway for a get-together in a pub than adults.

Boggles

archfi wrote: »

What does this one actually mean?
Is it only 6 at a table if all above 13 years of age, but 15 if there is at least one 12 year old?!?

"A maximum of six people aged 13 years and over will be allowed per table when restaurants, pubs and cafes open next month.
However, Covid-19 safety guidelines issued this morning by Fáilte Ireland also say that when accompanying children under the age of 12 are included, up to 15 people will be allowed at the one table."
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0526/1224013-covid-19-ireland/

You can have 6 13+ and 9 12-.

Sounds like a table to avoid.

thelad95

Go to any rural pub once they re-open and there won't be a sniff of any of these ridiculous rules being followed.

As for the Gardai, as long as they close at 11:30 and the place isn't obviously overcrowded, I doubt they'll care too much.

pc7

I just want to sit in a nice coffee shop and have someone bring me a coffee and a slice of cake at this stage!

archfi

Boggles wrote: »

You can have 6 13+ and 9 12-.

Sounds like a table to avoid.

14 adults + 1 borrowed 12 year old beats the 6 adults rule!
I must be reading RTE's report wrong.

Boggles

archfi wrote: »

14 adults + 1 borrowed 12 year old beats the 6 adults rule!
I must be reading RTE's report wrong.

From the PDF.

a maximum of 6 persons aged 13 or over per table. This limit of 6 does not include accompanying children aged 12 or younger. The total combined capacity at a table cannot exceed 15 overall (max. 6 persons
aged 13 and over)

stephenjmcd

archfi wrote: »

14 adults + 1 borrowed 12 year old beats the 6 adults rule!
I must be reading RTE's report wrong.

You are, it's max 6 adults

Boggles

stephenjmcd wrote: »

You are, it's max 6 adults

Max 6 13+

stephenjmcd

Boggles wrote: »

Max 6 13+

Correct, in my head I was thinking drinking age for some reason.

13+ isn't the drinking age haha

archfi

Boggles wrote: »

From the PDF.

Boggles wrote: »

Max 6 13+

Aha! Cheers.
the RTE bit wasn't very clear, another lesson for me to always go to source.

Boggles

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Correct, in my head I was thinking drinking age for some reason.

13+ isn't the drinking age haha

It's designed for 6 women to bring the kids, consume and talk shíté I imagine.

PTH2009

Would fast food places fall under hospitality ?

Boggles

PTH2009 wrote: »

Would fast food places fall under hospitality ?

No, aviation industry.

castletownman

castletownman wrote: »

Seems a bit perverse that a group of children can have more leeway for a get-together in a pub than adults.

Enables parents to socialise along with their family rather than always needing a babysitter. Families to bring their grandparents to dinner. Thought it would be popular here, facilitates even more people enjoying the greater freedom

PTH2009

Boggles wrote: »

No, aviation industry.

Hilarious

Lucas Hood

These guidelines seem to be there to try drum up business for restaurants/pubs not necessarily for safety reasons.

robbiezero

thelad95 wrote: »

Go to any rural pub once they re-open and there won't be a sniff of any of these ridiculous rules being followed.

As for the Gardai, as long as they close at 11:30 and the place isn't obviously overcrowded, I doubt they'll care too much.

There are a few of them open now on the quiet, was in one on Sunday. They are unlikely to implement any restriction nonsense.

PTH2009

With the similar rules outdoor and indoor should open the same time

There controlled areas ffs

Gael23

How does the virus know if a table has not been prebooked and requires a 2m space?