Official FSA Sorare Thread

FutureGuy

Hi all,
I have decided to allow a Sorare thread on FSA. My initial thought is that it better belongs in a crypto/NFT group, but in the absence of that, let’s see how this goes.

A few rules which may/may not change as we go on.

1) no referral posts and no referral post discussion. This is including requests to pm to learn how to get started.
2) because this is FSA, the discussion should be on The actual game and not on the technology.
3) buying and selling is part of the game and so this subject is allowed.

Everyone - before you invest ANY money, be sure you understand the risks. This game is based on ETH and you may lose or win money based on card value.

jimmii

Yay good decision!

I like how quick they seem to listen to feedback and develop new things like the club shop thing. One concern I had was the overall model and can see this becoming a revenue stream for them which I think is definitely a good thing.

Week just finished I got a rewarded in the rookie league with a total of zero points lol!

If anyone fancies it I set up a league on sorare brag

https://sorarebrag.com/join/9d0dyp

finlma

That's great. Thanks Futureguy.

I've been enjoying the game since I started. Definitely takes a bit of figuring out and there is an investment required.

It's based on leagues all around the world so gives you an interest in something other than the PL.

There are other 3rd party apps offering card utility like the private league above. I'm joining in.

jimmii

After a good start yesterday, thanks chiefly to an 80 point haul from Rudy Camacho, made the 205 threshold for the first time (only second time in D4 really) was a good chance for the 250 but my last two lads could only chip in with just under 74 which was a shame. If I had played my d3 striker in d4 would have got there.

finlma

jimmii wrote: »

After a good start yesterday, thanks chiefly to an 80 point haul from Rudy Camacho, made the 205 threshold for the first time (only second time in D4 really) was a good chance for the 250 but my last two lads could only chip in with just under 74 which was a shame. If I had played my d3 striker in d4 would have got there.

I've hit the 250 threshold again in D4 and won another bit of ETH. Won't take too long to make back my initial investment and be playing risk free. I still have my captain to play so have an outside chance of winning a card.

I also finished 4th in Oneshot League and I'll win another card for that.

Really enjoying playing the game.

jimmii

It definitely makes some random games at random times have some appeal. Was nice following a Korean game tbat kicked of at 8.30 this morning!

jimmii

In the long run do you think they're hoping gas fees come down must be a big overhead for them and they've started planning for them to come down? If there's no substantial change to gas fees I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some sort of subscription model at some point where you could pay x amount per month for no additional fees or pay per purchase. Or maybe they'll introduce some sort of margin on the transfer market to help cover those costs. It would think it wouldn't be great for the lower end of the market but most nft sites charge the fees and theit doesn't seem to put people off too much.

Would be interesting to see what the average they've paid on <€100 cards has been over the last couple of months feels like it could well be be fairly substantial number. At the top end its obviously a fairly low % but at the low end of the market its surely got to sting.

finlma

jimmii wrote: »

In the long run do you think they're hoping gas fees come down must be a big overhead for them and they've started planning for them to come down? If there's no substantial change to gas fees I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some sort of subscription model at some point where you could pay x amount per month for no additional fees or pay per purchase. Or maybe they'll introduce some sort of margin on the transfer market to help cover those costs. It would think it wouldn't be great for the lower end of the market but most nft sites charge the fees and theit doesn't seem to put people off too much.

Would be interesting to see what the average they've paid on <€100 cards has been over the last couple of months feels like it could well be be fairly substantial number. At the top end its obviously a fairly low % but at the low end of the market its surely got to sting.

Gas fees are definitely an issue but there is supposed to be some change coming for Ethereum that will reduce the cost.

Scored 315 this weekend in D4. Best score yet. Definitely building a team that can challenge for rewards. Picked up rare Muleka from Standard Liege and he's on fire.

jimmii

315 nice! Once eth 2 is fully up and running it's expected to lower gas fees but that's not until some to be set date hopefully next year so could still be a way off.

I feel I made a mistake a lot of people do in the cards I did pick up in spreading myself too thin initially. I think once you're past the rookie Cup stage you're better off trying to get a solid 6 going and then build from there. And make sure you aren't buying a player whose season is about to end too lol! For the people will the time to research I feel there's a huge opportunity here. If you don't listen to the sorare podcast it's worth a listen to the last one had a venture capitalist on who is investing quite significantly in the game needless to day their collection is pretty dam impressive.

finlma

jimmii wrote: »

315 nice! Once eth 2 is fully up and running it's expected to lower gas fees but that's not until some to be set date hopefully next year so could still be a way off.

I feel I made a mistake a lot of people do in the cards I did pick up in spreading myself too thin initially. I think once you're past the rookie Cup stage you're better off trying to get a solid 6 going and then build from there. And make sure you aren't buying a player whose season is about to end too lol! For the people will the time to research I feel there's a huge opportunity here. If you don't listen to the sorare podcast it's worth a listen to the last one had a venture capitalist on who is investing quite significantly in the game needless to day their collection is pretty dam impressive.

Yes, made the same mistake myself but I've traded my cards. My strategy is to have 2 good players in each position and all in the same league. I'm focusing on Challenger Europe so won't have any cards over the summer. Had bought some Asian cards but there's so much rotation you always end up with a DNP.

If you're prepared to take a small loss on value of your cards then try to trade with player PawelTrader. I got Muleka for 2 Asian players and a bit of ETH. A week later and the card is worth double.

jimmii

Had heard some speculation of a new level. The cost of entry was getting very high for the mote casual player. I think the academy was a hibee idea or was atleast came up on his podcast with almost identical limitations. It's a good idea and helps fill the big gap between rookie league and the global leagues. Interesting that they don't think they'll need any new revenue streams they'll have done a hell of a job if they can keep it going like this in the long term.

jimmii

Need a miracle this week after a surprise benching. Made my first straight sale yesterday Vicente Besuijen won at auction for €52 and sold for €118 after one good performance be nice if they all went like that! Crazy how all it takes is one decent performance and the price really jumps.

finlma

jimmii wrote: »

Need a miracle this week after a surprise benching. Made my first straight sale yesterday Vicente Besuijen won at auction for €52 and sold for €118 after one good performance be nice if they all went like that! Crazy how all it takes is one decent performance and the price really jumps.

Performances really have an impact on price in the short term. You made a nice profit. Some players trade purely on flipping cards. I look to pick up injured players that I think will score well when they come back. Vaclav Cerny looks great value so I picked him up.

I came 4th in oneshot league and won a useless tier 4 card that I managed to sell for €15. The guy that came third won a Vandevoordt card worth €1700. That stung.

Muleka injured so I'm not too hopeful this week. If I hit the 205 threshold I'll be happy.

jimmii

Wow big gap from 4th to 3rd! I was trying to find players that looked like they should come back in hard to research some the random leagues though!

finlma

I scraped over the 205 point threshold this week in Global D4, even with only 4 players. No striker due to injuries. That's another 0.01 ETH banked

jimmii

Just over 190 for me was surprised to get that close! Will hopefully get a new forward in the next 24 hours.

jimmii

Going into d4 this week with just 4 players so wasn't expecting to really threaten the thresholds especially when my mid was benched but he came on at half time and has chipped in with a 68 pointer so we're in with a shot now!

finlma

jimmii wrote: »

Going into d4 this week with just 4 players so wasn't expecting to really threaten the thresholds especially when my mid was benched but he came on at half time and has chipped in with a 68 pointer so we're in with a shot now!

Great start. I have Muleka back from injury so optimistic before any games start. Could change quickly.

I've only Challenger Europe players so only a couple of games left. Definitely try to grow my squad next year and pick up MLS and Asian players so I can play over the summer.

jimmii

Thats what I've been focusing on lately picked up a couple of players from Rosario Central and the brilliantly name Tche Tche from Mineiro have 10 it 11 regular starters from Asia/Americas now. Rosario captain Vecchio will serve me well with any luck. Also took a speculative punt on Infantino his #1 went for almost €240 and a couple over €100 so feel.picking up two for €120 should hopefully do alright all he really needs is to make an appearance and we're off to the races. Plan is to have a decent stock of summer league players and winter league players and then see if we can pick up some cheap young players and hope one or two come through at some point. If you can find 10 teens who look like they might possibly make the grade and pick them up for €20-€30 have to think one of them will more than cover the cost of the rest.

finlma

Missed the thresholds this week even with no DNP. This weekend looks like the last weekend I'll be able to enter a team until the new European season kicks off. Finals games in Eredivisie this weekend.

jimmii

I ended up on 202.15 after making a rookie error lol. Serves me right for being an idiot! With what I have now pretty confident the lower will be coming in pretty regular now.

finlma

jimmii wrote: »

I ended up on 202.15 after making a rookie error lol. Serves me right for being an idiot! With what I have now pretty confident the lower will be coming in pretty regular now.

Disappointing to be so close to 205. On my first week on the platform I got 204.83

jimmii

finlma wrote: »

Disappointing to be so close to 205. On my first week on the platform I got 204.83

Thats brutal! I played a no game rare over a common wtf was I thinking lol!

Despite that would love a way to have the option to hide commons or is there a way?

finlma

No way to hide commons. It gets discussed every so often on the Discord. Are you on Discord. If not you should as it's the only way to discuss trades with other managers. I've made a good few trades by chatting with lads there.

finlma

Hit the 250 point threshold again this week. Another €60 banked. It'll be my last game till next season. Need to do a bit of wheeling and dealing over the summer.

jimmii

232 with my common gk. No goals or assists must be very easy to hit the thresholds with a goalscorer! Had a disallowed goal yesterday that would have got me to the 250 stupid ref lol.

finlma

At least you hit the lower threshold.

With the new reward structures announced yesterday I will be aiming for Challenger D4 once the European leagues start back up. Reckon I'll have a chance at some card rewards some weeks.

jimmii

What are the main changes I've not really taken a look at it in detail yet its basically more and better cards as rewards right?. Glad the disallowed goal wasn't at the end and at that point would have been happy to just hit the 205.

finlma

There will be more card rewards so you won't have to hit as high a score to win one. They're also keeping the ETH thresholds over the summer. You have a good chance to build a bit of ETH with your Asian team.

jimmii

Yeah hope so. Its tricky with a common gk and so much rotation though! Hard to justify shelling out a few hundred for a keeper just so they don't get the 44% deduction. Hopefully when the new scarcity comes along they will be a little more affordable.

finlma

I took the plunge on a keeper to try and win some cards in Challenger next season. I haven't had a chance to play him yet though. I got Louis Bostyn from Zulte Waregem.

jimmii

I have a euro keeper makes it harder to go for a summer season one! If I do decide to put a little more in that'll be why though. There was a Frei that looked like might go for a bargain price but it shot up in the last few minutes I guess people are cautious about how bad the injury might be.

remoteboy

Signed up for this but haven’t a clue what I’m doing 😂. Need to read the rules a few times.

jimmii

remoteboy wrote: »

Signed up for this but haven’t a clue what I’m doing 😂. Need to read the rules a few times.

If you're going to put money in I think you may as well do it while you can get in the rookie league and try pick up some cards. The gap between doing well in the rookie league and the main leagues is massive! I think one of the main problems with the current structure is the fact that once you're out if the rookie league there isn't a free play option. I'm finding it fun watching random matches the other side of the world at 10 in the morning!

jimmii

Currently on 204.96 at full time in my last game he better get rounded up or down a bit that would be harsh to finish on that lol!

If you're looking for a decent looking bargain player Kim Dong-Hyun from Seongnam has done really well for me lately 66-40-62-50. Shinya Yajima from Gamba Osaka seems to like to chip with assists on a fairly regular basis too. Even if he's benched he seems to score well his last 5 average just went over 50 as well so guessing his price will start to creep up soon.

Was listening to the sorare podcast earlier and they made an interesting point about the Asian players. At the moment the game has really got no traction there at all but if it does the Asian prices really could jump. I have a Japanese super rare that I was going to move on but so far only 3 of his supers have been minted so hoping it could be one that does well collector wise in the future so might keep hold of it.

finlma

remoteboy wrote: »

Signed up for this but haven’t a clue what I’m doing &#55357;&#56834;. Need to read the rules a few times.

It takes time to get used to the game play. Make use of the 8 weeks of rookie league to figure things out.

In order to play after the 8 weeks of rookie league you will have to buy some rare cards. If you signed up using a referral link you get a free card after buying five. If you haven't done this I suggest deleting your account and starting again with a referral link. I got Nani as my free card. (I'm not fishing for a referral futureguy, just offering friendly advise).

It is worthwhile signing up to the Sorare Discord to ask questions and find out more information. Myself and jimmii should be able to answer questions here also.

finlma

jimmii wrote: »

Currently on 204.96 at full time in my last game he better get rounded up or down a bit that would be harsh to finish on that lol!

I really hope you get the 0.04 from Opta.

There is definitely good value in the Asian league but I've sold all my cards now and I'm focused on Europe. It is a good starting place for new players as cards are cheaper but you really need to do some research.

I owned a copy of Yajima before but he wasn't playing.

jimmii

No such luck! They did take a couple of points off though so feels better not being that close!

Another bargain Kazuya Yamamura expected back from injury in a couple of weeks can pick him up for around ~0.01eth right but guessing that will jump up once he has a couple of games under his belt. You never know but he should get some gametime at that price its worth the chance. He plays centre back or centre mid so he's pretty versatile.

jimmii

Got 256 from 3 players! Unfortunately I was 3 lads I put in a random D3 team so get nothing for it lol! Good to see them scoring like that especially as my super rare scored 80 a few more like that and he'll be going for a few quid! My D4 side got shafted they had players down as having fixtures then after deadline they were gone.

jimmii

If anyone is looking for Asian bargains there's been some huge price drops for the players who weren't able to play in the ACL or who have been called up for the Olympics. Lots and lots of first teamers whose prices are down hugely because their L5 is all dnp. Because of the break they don't miss many more matches and would imagine once things get back to normal their prices will jump back up.

jimmii

Had a deal done for Stefan Cleveland that was going to go through after deadline but the guy forgot to take him off the market and someone bid asking abd then immediately relisted him for like .1 more so annoying! The keeper hunt is incredibly annoying.

jimmii

Finally got myself a new keeper! Welcome to the club Sinan Bolat. Been offering my super rare as a swap for all sorts of keepers for a couple of days so nice to get someone to finally go for it! My super rares L5 was up to 65 so needed to get him gone while I could. One auctioned off for .150 a few days back and the lowest Solat is listed for is .180 so feel like I am maybe marginally on the right side there.

finlma

Bolat is a good signing. Should start regularly. I switched off from Sorare over the summer as I couldn't field a team. Some great developments happening with international players and improvements to the platform. Belgian league is back this weekend so I can finally enter a team. Considering entering Challenger D4 or the Special Weekly with my strongest team and put the dirt trackers into Globall All Stars D4 to try and pick up some ETH.

jimmii

Challenge looks a good option with the reward changes today. Its been interesting to see how differently the update here has been handled compared to today sorare update which has clearly also not gone as planned!

I picked up a Calabria relatively cheap hoping to be able to swap him plus a bit of a sweetener for a keeper too. Seems mad a player with a 20m market value is nothing compared to a random J-league keeper worth 500k in the real world lol. Hopefully once the new scaling solution is in place the new scarcity comes in and those keepers can be used in all the D4s as well as the academy that would be very handy. One of the problem they have now is they can fix the keeper problem as it punishes existing users tricky spot to be in. The new scarcity definitely fixes a lot of problems and makes the gap in the onbaoridng easier. I think now is a good time to get in ahead of the big marketing push when the scarcity does get added. I think the next push will make the bump at the start of the year look tiny wouldn't surprise me if 50k+ managers buy a rare over the next 12 months.

finlma

I'm going to risk the Special Weekly with my strongest team. There are super rares for a good few of the top spots. I might get lucky, not likely though.

The new updates seem to have gone well. Good communication anyway.

jimmii

Yeah the comms has been really good. Bringing Dan on board is proving to have been a great move. He was on the hibee/YNWA podcast not so long ago seems like a good guy.

jimmii

Already moved Bolat on! Picked up a few days ago in a swap that valued him at .15-.2 and sold him for .244 & Lucas Cavallini (~.11)

Wasn't 100% sure on it but didn't have a great set up for the next week or so and figured may as well now wait for the new cards see what happens to prices over the next couple of weeks.

jimmii

Blaming Kompany for me not getting something out of the week after an injury time goal from my captain meant he chipped in with 108.

Picked up another GK and a Eredivise forward in a decent position now should start to get soke results in the next few weeks.

finlma

Finished 82nd in weekly special. Not too far from a card. Hopefully the 2 of us will start getting cards soon. My keeper starting was a relief. Makes a big difference having a starting keeper.

jimmii

Yeah big time I should have two now so hoping to have a keeper pretty much every gw now. When I was scouting out keepers the other day I came across Juan Romero and almost got him at .12 now he's got 140 points in his first two games and the lowest he's listed for is .3 sickened! Have a few Rosario players that would have been a handy pick up.

finlma

The new scarcity of 1/1000 should make the platform more affordable for people. Should see real growth over the next year.