Punchestown festival 2021

Morris Garren

Scoundrel wrote: »

That first race today is an absolute disgrace they should be ashamed of themselves putting rubbish like that on.

Just for Info-- the Bishopscourt Cup is an ancient race, the local 'farmers' race that has been part of Punchestown for many generations. All horses entered must be the bona fide property of local people and it can be a lifelong aim to actually win it.
Yes, the quality of horse might seem pretty low, but it might be worth remembering that steeplechasing did exist long before online bookies, industrial scale training stables and Wall to Wall Live coverage.
One person's 'disgrace' is another person's highlight of the week.
Horses for Courses indeed.....

hawaii501

The wonder mare does it again, she is special.
Stops for a breather and still wins going away

howareyakid

gazza1 wrote: »

7.05 El Barra again form boosted by Suprise Package on weds.

Good shout!

NaiveMelodies

They sounded like they wanted to go chasing with Honeysuckle next season which would be unbelievable!

Gavin "shels"

Gabynako 8/1 tomorrow... redeem yourself!

Morris Garren

Morris Garren wrote: »

Just for Info-- the Bishopscourt Cup is an ancient race, the local 'farmers' race that has been part of Punchestown for many generations. All horses entered must be the bona fide property of local people and it can be a lifelong aim to actually win it.
Yes, the quality of horse might seem pretty low, but it might be worth remembering that steeplechasing did exist long before online bookies, industrial scale training stables and Wall to Wall Live coverage.
One person's 'disgrace' is another person's highlight of the week.
Horses for Courses indeed.....

I saw that alright.... They also mentioned hunting (disgusting "sport" imo, but that's going off topic) in the same context. I'm wondering do either the owners or trainers have to be bona fide farmers, or can the "landed gentry" non farming types enter a horse in that race too, so long as they're in the Kildare area..

clevtrev

clevtrev wrote: »

I think most of the regulars here moved to a telegram forum for Cheltenham and didn't come back after it finished. This forum has been dead for the last month not worth checking anymore

That comment aged well Here we are almost 250 posts later

Plasandrunt

They'd be absolutely mental to go over fences with Honeysuckle, keep her over hurdles and let her become one of the best of all time

Plasandrunt

also the interview with DeBromhead touched on Alan Potts taking his horses away, was the reason ever established why he did so?

BurtMacklin

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Gabynako 8/1 tomorrow... redeem yourself!

I'm in the same boat as you here. Let's go.

BurtMacklin

Anyone giving Concertista another try here ? It was disappointing to get beaten on the line at Cheltenham but she might go one better today.

gazza1

2.50 Dromore Lad 25/1 ew 5 places

Out and out stayer. Won the Cork National by 9L. 7lbs claimer onboard so carries just 10-2

4.30 Jerandme 14/1 ew 5 places

His last 5 runs of 2020 read 12111 so is very progressive. Had a spin out at the start of April (first run since dec) and that should put him right for this.

GL

PatrickDoherty

Plasandrunt wrote: »

also the interview with DeBromhead touched on Alan Potts taking his horses away, was the reason ever established why he did so?

I'd say being 6ft under had something to do with it.

deeks

I like 2 at the prices in the 2.50 at Punchestown.

Swingbridge at 20/1 5 places with PP. getting on in years but has run well after a break and has no weight with Jordan Gainford taking off 7.

Forza Milan at 12/1. If you go back to his beginners chase form early last year with the likes of Carefully Selected and Castlebawn West he’d have a right change off this weight and has shown bits and pieces since to think he could run well over this trip.

bit of a bogey

PatrickDoherty wrote: »

I'd say being 6ft under had something to do with it.

Happened before he passed away if I recall correctly.

There were certainly plenty of rumours why but not sure if there was truth to any of them.

deeks

5.05

Peregrine Run has a decent record fresh and generally runs well on his ventures back over hurdles so worth a look at 66/1 6 places.

Hannon didn’t stay last time and his mark looks reasonable so at 33/1 back down in trip looks more than fair.

howareyakid

5:05 - Tronador e/w. Delivered on potential last time out and won very impressively. Hoping there may be further scope for improvement off low mark.

5:40 - Strange Notions e/w. Has some impressive form that ties in with a few of the other runners here.

Plasandrunt

PatrickDoherty wrote: »

I'd say being 6ft under had something to do with it.

The horses left the yard in Jan 2017 and Potts passed in Nov 2017 so it had nothing to do with it.

ElisaAtWar

deeks wrote: »

I like 2 at the prices in the 2.50 at Punchestown.

Swingbridge at 20/1 5 places with PP. getting on in years but has run well after a break and has no weight with Jordan Gainford taking off 7.

Forza Milan at 12/1. If you go back to his beginners chase form early last year with the likes of Carefully Selected and Castlebawn West he’d have a right change off this weight and has shown bits and pieces since to think he could run well over this trip.

Think Forza Milan may be a very good shout

FiftyP

A disaster of a day yesterday, not even a place. However I’m still up overall on Punchestown even with no bets yet returned today and them all already placed. That has to be a good week, and I have a day of horse racing and beer to look forward to already in the profit. Then, over the next few days, I’m starting a new spreadsheet for tracking bets, seeing as I feel I’ve earned a fresh start with a new focus on the game (and a new season.) I just have to hope Racing TV give me an offer when I go back to them in August.

2.15 Josies Orders 8/1 ew 4 places
2.50 Young Dev 9/1 ew 4 places
3.20 Minella Melody 16/1 ew 3 places
4.00 Jeff Kidder 20/1 ew 3 places
4.30 Fag An Bealach 7/1
5.05 Lady Breffni 10/1 ew 4 places
5.40 Rebel Early 18/1 ew 4 places

howareyakid

4:00 - Market support seems to suggest Willie’s horse could progress enough to reverse the Cheltenham form, but Quilixios has passed every test so far and I’m going to stick with again today at around 2/1

4:30 - Backed Jerandme the last day at Fairyhouse. He was fairly well supported that day also but perhaps he needed the run a bit. I’m prepared to give him another chance today where he’s been backed from around 20s into 10s.

NaiveMelodies

deeks wrote: »

I like 2 at the prices in the 2.50 at Punchestown.

Swingbridge at 20/1 5 places with PP. getting on in years but has run well after a break and has no weight with Jordan Gainford taking off 7.

Forza Milan at 12/1. If you go back to his beginners chase form early last year with the likes of Carefully Selected and Castlebawn West he’d have a right change off this weight and has shown bits and pieces since to think he could run well over this trip.

All over Forza Milan. Crying out for the this type of slower affair and extended trip and as you say has those bits of nice form.

4.00. Does anyone like Saint Sam.. Not sure I do, #but there's no real direct line as far as I can see between him and the hotties (well, there is, but I'm thinking the ground, plus lightly raced etc etc..). The good ground (or close enough to good) a bit of a concern, but I think I'll do him anyway. I'll have to do Jeff as well in that case

Even allowing for the Triumph being about 90yds further than Boodles, I think that the latter race would have been ran in a quicker time had it been that bit longer. Plus, the ground was softer on the tuesday.

Still left with the ground concern though, but with so many races with multiple runners; I may as well have a go with an 8/9 horse race, and leave it at that. Maybe I'll do something else at the meet, but for now, I'll leave it at the 2 in this.

Couldn't pick which of the top two is better than the other, or even the third fav, so I'll oppose :pac: I aint one who's generally sorry for not backing a 2/1 shot that ends up hosing up like a long odds on yoke. So, with all that nonsense aside, my picks in this:

Saint Sam 10/1 ew
Jeff Kidder 20/1 ew

Slightly more on SS.. Might end looking foolish, but like I said ground etc is unknown really, #and while both the picks indeed have competed against Zanahiyr; at least in Saint Sam's case, who's also been up against Quilixios, there's enough unknowns to not be able to rule him out.

Gluck.. Hope folks make a few bob today

gazza1

Concertista back to 2m ?

howareyakid

Jeff Kidder is some horse!

A “most progressive of horse“ according to Jerry Hannon in the commentary - I think the last time he said that was about Dreal Deal!!

deeks

deeks wrote: »

5.05

Peregrine Run has a decent record fresh and generally runs well on his ventures back over hurdles so worth a look at 66/1 6 places.

Hannon didn’t stay last time and his mark looks reasonable so at 33/1 back down in trip looks more than fair.

Decent end to an otherwise poor day with Peregrine Run getting placed. Backed at 66/1 earlier but went off a huge 150/1. Nice.

TheRiverman

Brilliant punditry by Jane Mangan, Barry Geraghty and Ruby Walsh on RTE. Thankfully Davy Russell only appeared once during the week, great jockey, but poor pundit.

Plasandrunt

Jane Mangan is absolutely brilliant and she's starting to blossom into a bit of a little dinger too.

kksaints

Thought Katie Walsh did a very good job on the after race interviews. Jockeys obviously enjoyed talking to her and she did a much better job than the likes of Pershad and Chapman do on ITV. RTE punditry was also very good and would disagree with the poster above with regards to Davy Russell, he's not the most media trained but he does have a good insight into race riding particularly when analyzing a race afterwards. If only they'd get rid of Brian Gleeson, the coverage would be fantastic.

TheRiverman

kksaints wrote: »

Thought Katie Walsh did a very good job on the after race interviews. Jockeys obviously enjoyed talking to her and she did a much better job than the likes of Pershad and Chapman do on ITV. RTE punditry was also very good and would disagree with the poster above with regards to Davy Russell, he's not the most media trained but he does have a good insight into race riding particularly when analyzing a race afterwards. If only they'd get rid of Brian Gleeson, the coverage would be fantastic.

Maybe I'm a bit harsh on Davy Russell, but he will need some media training if he intends to do some punditry after he retires as a jockey. Brian Gleeson is like the poor sidekick to the insane carry on of Chapman on ITV. I thought his interview with Jody and Paul Townsend today was so insensitive when he kept mentioning their late mother.