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World Snooker Championship 2021

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    #152
    gormdubhgorm
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    Gary Wilson can feel hard done by his pot success was 92% and long pots 78%

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #153
    Joe_ Public
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    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Gary Wilson can feel hard done by his pot success was 92% and long pots 78%

    Was a good match, lots saying how great dave gilbert played yesterday and he was 92% as well. Kyren was just that bit more ruthless in punishing mistakes i think, that was probably the difference. Decent performance from him.


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    #154
    gormdubhgorm
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Was a good match, lots saying how great dave gilbert played yesterday and he was 92% as well. Kyren was just that bit more ruthless in punishing mistakes i think, that was probably the difference. Decent performance from him.

    Kyren seems to be able to up it at the right times. He tries really hard probably too hard at times, and emotion can get the better of him as we saw last year.

    There is definitely a few world titles in him imo.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #155
    Joe_ Public
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    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Kyren seems to be able to up it at the right times. He tries really hard probably too hard at times, and emotion can get the better of him as we saw last year.

    There is definitely a few world titles in him imo.

    There's no guarantees but he's definitely not a million miles away, for sure. I was watching an interview with him the other day and it did strike me how he was still apologising for that fluked green against mcgill 8 months on. Talking about that match like he lost it. Just reminded me how much he was already beaten before last years final and i still think he has to develop that ruthless streak before he can be a champion. Emotions definitely a big part of it, maybe he's too nice a fella sometimes!


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    #156
    sligeach
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    Some players who are out and who will go out in this first round will feel hard done by, having played well. Particularly when they see John Higgins through having played rancid stuff. He says he feels "embarrassed", rightly so, he should. I was embarrassed watching it. Tian had him for the taking, then fell apart himself.


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    #157
    Joe_ Public
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    Two big misses with the rest by lisowski in that frame. I'd wonder whether that isnt at least partly a consequence of playing so many shots right handed, you just never develop the necessary confidence if you're purposely avoiding having to use it. Not even as if he's any more reliable righthanded either.


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    #158
    Joe_ Public
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    Just cannot believe jack putting ali back in there, made no sense with a straightforward safety shot on. Deserves to lose the frame.


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    #159
    Joe_ Public
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    And now ali messes up, what a mistake. Nervy match this.

    I see Barry Hearn retirement announced, eddie to take over as matchroom chairman. Wish him long and happy retirement.


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    #160
    Arthur Daley
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    Lisowski - Carter looks like a 10-9 in some shape or form. Haven't had one yet


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    #161
    Arthur Daley
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    Hard to see Barry retired but he's been talking like that for a while


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    #162
    gormdubhgorm
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    There's no guarantees but he's definitely not a million miles away, for sure. I was watching an interview with him the other day and it did strike me how he was still apologising for that fluked green against mcgill 8 months on. Talking about that match like he lost it. Just reminded me how much he was already beaten before last years final and i still think he has to develop that ruthless streak before he can be a champion. Emotions definitely a big part of it, maybe he's too nice a fella sometimes!
    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    And now ali messes up, what a mistake. Nervy match this.

    I see Barry Hearn retirement announced, eddie to take over as matchroom chairman. Wish him long and happy retirement.

    Kyren seems like a bit of a softie I suppose.

    I couldn't imagine Barry Hearn 'Barry Earn' having that approach. I remember I heard it said of Hearn when he was taking appearance requests, for Steve Davis he would think of a figure and treble it!

    It will be interesting to see if the prize money for 147's changes under a new chairman. Seems to be a gripe for the players, especially one in particular who is 'not boovered now mate'.
    You had to get the 20th in a season to get a 1m.

    A max at this years World Championship only gets 40k. Over 20 years ago it was 147k plus the high break prize which pushed it to 150k/160k which was huge money back then and even now.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #163
    Joe_ Public
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    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Kyren seems like a bit of a softie I suppose.

    I couldn't imagine Barry Hearn 'Barry Earn' having that approach. I remember I heard it said of Hearn when he was taking appearance requests, for Steve Davis he would think of a figure and treble it!

    It will be interesting to see if the prize money for 147's changes under a new chairman. Seems to be a gripe for the players, especially one in particular who is 'not boovered now mate'.
    You had to get the 20th in a season to get a 1m.

    A max at this years World Championship only gets 40k. Over 20 years ago it was 147k plus the high break prize which pushed it to 150k/160k which was huge money back then and even now.

    If eddie is new world snooker chairman, i'm not sure how much would change, maybe he'll be keen to put his own mark on things. There's loads of stuff I'd love to see being done differently, like the calendar and uk championship as well as prize money for those lower down for example, but i doubt any of those things will happen anytime soon. The 147 bonus isnt something that unduly bothers me tbh, they've become so common i don't know what the optimum figure should be anymore. 40k seems reasonable enough, but maybe not everyone is happy.

    Edit: new chairman of WS is Steve Dawson, not Eddie, dont know much about him but being with hearn a long time.


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    #164
    Joe_ Public
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    Think carters going to want to blow up that right middle pocket after this match, left some amount of balls hanging on the edge this morning.


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    #165
    Joe_ Public
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    And another miss to the middle from carter....to the opposite side this time.


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    #166
    gormdubhgorm
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    If eddie is new world snooker chairman, i'm not sure how much would change, maybe he'll be keen to put his own mark on things. There's loads of stuff I'd love to see being done differently, like the calendar and uk championship as well as prize money for those lower down for example, but i doubt any of those things will happen anytime soon. The 147 bonus isnt something that unduly bothers me tbh, they've become so common i don't know what the optimum figure should be anymore. 40k seems reasonable enough, but maybe not everyone is happy.

    Edit: new chairman of WS is Steve Dawson, not Eddie, dont know much about him but being with hearn a long time.

    I was thinking they should bring in a special prize for the same player getting three 147's in a row in the same match. It would make fellas go for it especially if they are getting well beaten in long matches.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #167
    gormdubhgorm
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    Saw a stat there on Lisowski his long potting is only at 50%. Most of his other match stats are on a par with Carter though.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #168
    Joe_ Public
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    Some shot that lisowski. Can he finish it?


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    #169
    Joe_ Public
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    I'd say he definitely played that x double but jack should have snookered him on that shot, wasnt a difficult one.


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    #170
    dougm1970
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    I'd say he definitely played that x double but jack should have snookered him on that shot, wasnt a difficult one.

    and not a word from commentary when he did it.


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    #171
    Joe_ Public
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    dougm1970 wrote: »
    and not a word from commentary when he did it.

    Dom did call it on eurosport anyway. Jack actually had 2 gos to get the snooker behind the pink but failed both times. Just not good enough really.


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    #172
    RebelButtMunch
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    Come on Jack


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    #173
    dougm1970
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    ooh...final frame drama....here we go


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    #174
    Joe_ Public
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    265-264 balls potted. Just underscores how even the match has been.


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    #175
    Joe_ Public
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    I wouldn't call this over yet by a long way.


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    #176
    sligeach
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    I wouldn't call this over yet by a long way.



    It is now.


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    #177
    Joe_ Public
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    Fair play to him for getting it done, the type of match he often struggles to win. Have to admit i didnt fancy him for it much personally. Got to give him some confidence going forward.


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    #178
    dougm1970
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    if mark allen keeps up this level he'll be very hard beat.


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    #179
    gormdubhgorm
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Fair play to him for getting it done, the type of match he often struggles to win. Have to admit i didnt fancy him for it much personally. Got to give him some confidence going forward.

    Well the big Lisowski shut me up. I thought he was going to crumble as usual. Has he finally found 'bottle' as John Parrott loves to call it?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #180
    Joe_ Public
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    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Well the big Lisowski shut me up. I thought he was going to crumble as usual. Has he finally found 'bottle' as John Parrott loves to call it?

    Definitely showed some bottle those last 2 frames. Overall though, it wasnt a great quality affair. That level wouldnt live with Robertson, but then again he'll be big underdog for that match so that might help him settle.


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    #181
    weemcd
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    dougm1970 wrote: »
    if mark allen keeps up this level he'll be very hard beat.

    That's the thing about Allen, when he gets firing he can build breaks as well as anyone in the game.

    His patience will have to be tested at some point this week but he's a good shout for any competition he plays in if he's potting the way he has today.


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