[Match Thread]Exeter Chiefs V Leinster - Sat April 10th - K.O. 5.30pm - BT Sport 2

Dave_The_Sheep

I don't have a problem with it being only a penalty. Sure a yellow could have been given, and we've seen it, but I can see why it wasn't given too. There wasn't much in it.

ongarite

It's been mentioned already, Raynal's positioning on the field at ruck time is very poor.
Nearly bundled over a few times.

KH25

ongarite wrote: »

It's been mentioned already, Raynal's positioning on the field at ruck time is very poor.
Nearly bundled over a few times.

Furlong went straight into him at one stage. No idea what he’s at.

Bridge93

Raynal is absolutely useless from positioning to decision making. He bottled that high tackle

AbusesToilets

Maybe do us all a favor and knobble him

Pudsy33

A swinging forearm him someone in the chin, all this "initial contact" talk is absolutely irrelevant.

Dave_The_Sheep

I am delighted with that scoreline after the first 14 minutes. Imagine if we hadn't been asleep for that period? This game would be pretty much over. Have to keep that latter-first-half level of concentration for the next 40.

Weepsie

Somewhere bundee aki is scratching his head about what's a legal and an illegal tackle if watching that

theVersatile

fitz wrote: »

That's actually worse, in terms of mitigation within the framework. The tackler completed the table and followed through, which puts it into the higher degree of danger straight away, so it should start as red, with mitigation down to yellow because of the indirect contact to the head.

Pudsy33 wrote: »

A swinging forearm him someone in the chin, all this "initial contact" talk is absolutely irrelevant.

Indirect contact to the head with the arm starts at a yellow.

http://rugbyandthelaw.com/2019/07/06/world-rugby-high-tackle-framework-red-card-player-welfare-referee-disciplinary/

Do correct me if this is outdated and has been changed since - this is 2019.

Faugheen

I agree with Raynal’s positioning. McGrath needs to throw him the ball a couple of times and he might get the message.

Clegg

I think we controlled the game expertly after 15 minutes. For the opening 10 Exeter had 90% possession and were dominating. After that our backrow in particular got on top with Conan and VDF showing especially strongly. Been some.excellent carrying and ruck work on show.

Sexton was doing an expert job in kicking in behind and then choosing his moments when to go wide. He caught them narrow on a number of occasions.

We'll need a huge opening 20 minutes of the second half. Exeter will come out strongly and they know.oue defence can become disjointed when the opposition starts accumulating lots of phases.

fitz

Pudsy33 wrote: »

A swinging forearm him someone in the chin, all this "initial contact" talk is absolutely irrelevant.

Exactly. Initial point of contact only comes into it for deciding on mitigation.

hahashake

theVersatile wrote: »

Indirect contact to the head with the arm starts at a yellow.

http://rugbyandthelaw.com/2019/07/06/world-rugby-high-tackle-framework-red-card-player-welfare-referee-disciplinary/

Do correct me if this is outdated and has been changed since - this is 2019.

"Indirect contact with a high degree of danger will see a yellow card but only a penalty if there is a low degree of danger."

So you can debate the degree of danger but it doesn't start at yellow.

fitz

theVersatile wrote: »

Indirect contact to the head with the arm starts at a yellow.

http://rugbyandthelaw.com/2019/07/06/world-rugby-high-tackle-framework-red-card-player-welfare-referee-disciplinary/

Do correct me if this is outdated and has been changed since - this is 2019.

At the top of the page you linked to there's a link to a 2020 update. Direct/indirect is no longer part of determining the starting sanction, no?

theVersatile

hahashake wrote: »

"Indirect contact with a high degree of danger will see a yellow card but only a penalty if there is a low degree of danger."

So you can debate the degree of danger but it doesn't start at yellow.

Yeah sorry that was poorly phrased on my part - it's a maximum yellow.

Podge_irl

Sangre wrote: »

Has there ever been a TMO that actually disagreed with a ref? They always roll over from memory.

It is ultimately the ref's call. Plenty of TMOs have questioned refs, but there is ultimately nothing they can do.

Weepsie

Weepsie wrote: »

Somewhere bundee aki is scratching his head about what's a legal and an illegal tackle if watching that

Aki shouldered somoene to the chin, there is a difference

Clegg

More missed tackles.

It's a huge problem now.

Clegg

All from poor missed tackles in midfield.

baas baa

Fardy has been really poor.

A-Train

Another poor start from Leinster

AbusesToilets

3 tries from near identical set up. Awful defending from Leinster.

degsie

No TMO check!

Faugheen

Warburton's analysis is second-to-none. Could listen to him all day.

Garda Kenny

Fardy missed tackle line break initially and Fardy line out melt. 2 inexcusable mistakes. He better make up or be hooked

Clegg

Our defence is a shambles.

Bridge93

Why are they so passive in defence. Inexcusable that in both halves they start so slowly

degsie

1st Half, part II

irelandrover

degsie wrote: »

No TMO check!

For what.

RugbyLover123

O’Flaherty having a field day out there

Bridge93

Rory O Loughlin has had a total stinker. That is brainless

realhorrorshow

Think that's four linebreaks now that have come from tight five forwards defending in midfield.

degsie

irelandrover wrote: »

For what.

'Cause it standard fare for Leinster tries

AbusesToilets

Exeter's entire success has been framed around Flaherty making ridiculous breaks.

Sort it out ffs

A-Train

Leinster need to get their heads into this second half.

Can’t afford to let them get up to full steam.

Exclamation Marc

O'Loughlin has been rotten, continuing his performance from the last game.

UAEguy2020

Okay leinster you’ve had another nice 8 minute nap, wake up now.

scott1974

The pitch is starting to tear up

degsie

Nice 3 pts

KH25

Raynal actually blocked 2 Exeter players there.

Clegg

Excellent little play from Leinster. Pulled Exeter out of position and then when their forwards were overloaded on one side we passed back into that mass but they hadn't the legs to track the runner.

Thought Byrne's pass might have been forward tho.

AbusesToilets

KH25 wrote: »

Raynal actually blocked 2 Exeter players there.

Must have watched Poite diving into a ruck and thought "I can beat that"

Clegg

Raynal missed the deliberate knock on there.

Hope the TMO didn't.

Larbre34

Uh oh, he's seen the deliberate knock on

razorblunt

Byrne’s pass was a mile forward.

Exclamation Marc

Raynal won't give this. Wind is going the wrong way in Dublin.

degsie

Here we go TMO time!

theVersatile

Huh, he's actually right

Larbre34

Larbre34 wrote: »

Uh oh, he's seen the deliberate knock on

And also bottled it.

realhorrorshow

Did it definitely go forward?