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[Match Thread]Exeter Chiefs V Leinster - Sat April 10th - K.O. 5.30pm - BT Sport 2

  • 09-04-2021 6:37pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 8,573 ✭✭✭ degsie


    Leinster Rugby:

    15. Hugo Keenan
    14. Jordan Larmour
    13. Rory O’Loughlin
    12. Robbie Henshaw
    11. James Lowe
    10. Johnny Sexton (capt)
    9. Luke McGrath
    1. Cian Healy
    2. Rónan Kelleher
    3. Tadhg Furlong
    4. Scott Fardy
    5. Devin Toner
    6. Rhys Ruddock
    7. Josh van der Flier
    8. Jack Conan

    Replacements

    16. James Tracy
    17. Ed Byrne
    18. Andrew Porter
    19. Ross Molony
    20. Ryan Baird
    21. Hugh O’Sullivan
    22. Ross Byrne
    23. Dave Kearney


    Exeter Chiefs:

    15 Stuart Hogg
    14 Olly Woodburn
    13 Henry Slade
    12 Ollie Devoto
    11 Tom O’Flaherty
    10 Joe Simmonds
    9 Jack Maunder
    1 Ben Moon
    2 Luke Cowan-Dickie
    3 Tomas Francis
    4 Jonny Gray
    5 Jonny Hill
    6 Dave Ewers
    7 Jacques Vermeulen
    8 Sam Simmonds

    Replacements:

    16 Jack Yeandle
    17 Alec Hepburn
    18 Harry Williams
    19 Sam Skinner
    20 Jannes Kirsten
    21 Stu Townsend
    22 Harvey Skinner
    23 Ian Whitten


    Should be a cracker!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭ Vinnie222


    degsie wrote: »
    Leinster Rugby:

    15. Hugo Keenan
    14. Jordan Larmour
    13. Rory O’Loughlin
    12. Robbie Henshaw
    11. James Lowe
    10. Johnny Sexton (capt)
    9. Luke McGrath
    1. Cian Healy
    2. Rónan Kelleher
    3. Tadhg Furlong
    4. Scott Fardy
    5. Devin Toner
    6. Rhys Ruddock
    7. Josh van der Flier
    8. Jack Conan

    Replacements

    16. James Tracy
    17. Ed Byrne
    18. Andrew Porter
    19. Ross Molony
    20. Ryan Baird
    21. Hugh O’Sullivan
    22. Ross Byrne
    23. Dave Kearney


    Exeter Chiefs:

    15 Stuart Hogg
    14 Olly Woodburn
    13 Henry Slade
    12 Ollie Devoto
    11 Tom O’Flaherty
    10 Joe Simmonds
    9 Jack Maunder
    1 Ben Moon
    2 Luke Cowan-Dickie
    3 Tomas Francis
    4 Jonny Gray
    5 Jonny Hill
    6 Dave Ewers
    7 Jacques Vermeulen
    8 Sam Simmonds

    Replacements:

    16 Jack Yeandle
    17 Alec Hepburn
    18 Harry Williams
    19 Sam Skinner
    20 Jannes Kirsten
    21 Stu Townsend
    22 Harvey Skinner
    23 Ian Whitten


    Should be a cracker!

    Exeter by 5. Bench will made the difference


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,569 ✭✭✭✭ partyjungle


    Vinnie222 wrote: »
    Exeter by 5. Bench will made the difference

    Not the strongest leinster bench but I don't recognise one name on the Exeter bench


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭ MaybeMaybe


    Not the strongest leinster bench but I don't recognise one name on the Exeter bench

    Not even Ian whitten?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,569 ✭✭✭✭ partyjungle


    MaybeMaybe wrote: »
    Not even Ian whitten?

    Especially Ian Whitten


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭ FrannoFan


    Hepburn
    Williams
    Skinner
    Decent front 5 impact from bench.
    Think they have advantage in front 5

    injury makes this too big an ask.

    Luke mcgrath goes off and it's game over.
    Maloney no where near required physicality for this level

    Throw in James ryan and ringrose and this still a tough away day.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ molloyjh


    Not the strongest leinster bench but I don't recognise one name on the Exeter bench

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    Forgotten but not gone.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 33,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pickarooney


    This should be an ugly game, tight as a gnat's chuff with a single mistake likely to spell disaster. The champions en titre will go through here but they won't go any further.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ molloyjh


    I simply can't call this one. Mainly because I've seen so little of Exeter in the last while. I think we have a few guys in good form at the moment. Kelleher, Furlong, VDF, Conan, Henshaw and Keenan have all looked good lately. And all played against England too along with Healy, Baird, Sexton, Larmour and Porter. I'm not too worried about being undercooked tbh. And I think a few guys in the squad needed the rest more than the game last week.

    That said, I am incredibly nervous. This is a massive game and one Leinster are setting their stall out to win. I dont think a loss is the end of the world, especially not if its as close as we think it will be. But a win would be a big statement I think. The one big question mark over Leinster right now is their ability to step up in these games from what is currently a really dreadful Pro14. If we can answer that then it puts us in a very good place. So from that perspective I'm quite excited to see how we go.

    If we lose by a score having played well then it won't really signify much in terms of our ability to step up. The only way a loss would really mean much is if we are well off the pace and Exeter win fairly comfortably. Then the questions about Leinsters ability to step up will arise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭ FrannoFan


    molloyjh wrote: »
    I simply can't call this one. Mainly because I've seen so little of Exeter in the last while. I think we have a few guys in good form at the moment. Kelleher, Furlong, VDF, Conan, Henshaw and Keenan have all looked good lately. And all played against England too along with Healy, Baird, Sexton, Larmour and Porter. I'm not too worried about being undercooked tbh. And I think a few guys in the squad needed the rest more than the game last week.

    That said, I am incredibly nervous. This is a massive game and one Leinster are setting their stall out to win. I dont think a loss is the end of the world, especially not if its as close as we think it will be. But a win would be a big statement I think. The one big question mark over Leinster right now is their ability to step up in these games from what is currently a really dreadful Pro14. If we can answer that then it puts us in a very good place. So from that perspective I'm quite excited to see how we go.

    If we lose by a score having played well then it won't really signify much in terms of our ability to step up. The only way a loss would really mean much is if we are well off the pace and Exeter win fairly comfortably. Then the questions about Leinsters ability to step up will arise.

    Agree with a lot of this
    The pro14? Is it awful and we cruise an awful league? If we get well beaten then where does irish rugby stand? Ulster and munster console themselves with Losing to leinster because they are one of the best in Europe. If we aren't where are they?

    In one respect I'm glad if we win European cup it will be by beating exeter along the way. Was potentially an * with no saracens. Throw in we are in a quarter final by winning 2 games. If we add a 5th star I'd rather have a couple of big wins in it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭ Garda Kenny


    FrannoFan wrote: »
    Hepburn
    Williams
    Skinner
    Decent front 5 impact from bench.
    Think they have advantage in front 5

    injury makes this too big an ask.

    Luke mcgrath goes off and it's game over.
    Maloney no where near required physicality for this level

    Throw in James ryan and ringrose and this still a tough away day.

    Luke McGrath needs to step up tomorrow and show his performances can match his self perception of himself as a leader.

    He needs to be a link player and step up and execute box kicks and passes as a senior player would do - flawlessly.

    He needs to have a positive influence and impact on the game and dictate play not only let it unfold and read opportunities. If he plays percentages the game might pass him by as other big occasions have in the past.

    I hope for the future of his position at Leinster he can step up.

    As for Hughie - I can’t see what rumours are doing the rounds that people are saying he will definitely lose us the game. So he wasn’t awarded a contract he might have focus elsewhere in his life other than rugby but to write him off so completely is mind boggling. I think he can do us a job if called upon.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,580 ✭✭✭✭ stephen_n


    Luke McGrath needs to step up tomorrow and show his performances can match his self perception of himself as a leader.

    He needs to be a link player and step up and execute box kicks and passes as a senior player would do - flawlessly.

    He needs to have a positive influence and impact on the game and dictate play not only let it unfold and read opportunities. If he plays percentages the game might pass him by as other big occasions have in the past.

    I hope for the future of his position at Leinster he can step up.

    As for Hughie - I can’t see what rumours are doing the rounds that people are saying he will definitely lose us the game. So he wasn’t awarded a contract he might have focus elsewhere in his life other than rugby but to write him off so completely is mind boggling. I think he can do us a job if called upon.

    I think the Ospreys game wouldn’t fill anyone with confidence at the thoughts of HOS having to come on in a European quarter final. If Osborne was fit, let alone JGP. He wouldn’t be near the team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭ scott1974


    MaybeMaybe wrote: »
    Not even Ian whitten?

    I suspect Leinster will try to exploit him once he's on.
    He looked slow against Lyon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,997 ✭✭✭ AbusesToilets


    After the embarrassment of losing to Saracens last season, they just have to win this. I find Exeter to be a very dull team to watch, they make Ireland's play style look exciting by contrast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,034 ✭✭✭ Former Former Former


    Cheer up lads. The sun is out and there's a huge game of rugby to look forward to.

    Exeter are English and European champions and they have home advantage. It's no shame if we lose and it's an indication of how good this Leinster team is that we're marginal favourites nonetheless.

    And if we do lose? We try again next year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ aloooof


    Luke McGrath needs to step up tomorrow and show his performances can match his self perception of himself as a leader.

    That’s incredibly harsh on McGrath, imo. He’s been picked to captain the team in the past; that’s not self-perception.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ aloooof


    After the embarrassment of losing to Saracens last season, they just have to win this. I find Exeter to be a very dull team to watch, they make Ireland's play style look exciting by contrast.

    And I think that’s incredibly harsh on Leinster. The scrum in the first half cost ye, but Saracens 3 front row players all featured in the RWC final, and Leinster were without Furlong. That’s hardly an embarrassment.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭ Garda Kenny


    aloooof wrote: »
    That’s incredibly harsh on McGrath, imo. He’s been picked to captain the team in the past; that’s not self-perception.

    What I mean is that he puts himself forward for responsibilities that come with being in the leadership group. I expect him to live up to that self billing as a leader and influence the game in a positive way. Drifting, carrying out your role or shouting at people won’t be sufficient today. I think he can have a greater influence on the outcome if he focuses on making an impact in areas I see JGP having a better game him - distribution, tempo and sniping.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ molloyjh


    What I mean is that he puts himself forward for responsibilities that come with being in the leadership group. I expect him to live up to that self billing as a leader and influence the game in a positive way. Drifting, carrying out your role or shouting at people won’t be sufficient today. I think he can have a greater influence on the outcome if he focuses on making an impact in areas I see JGP having a better game him - distribution, tempo and sniping.

    McGrath has been huge for Leinster this season. Just look at our performance vs Ospreys for an example of where we are without him. You spoke about him needing to be flawless earlier etc. That's asking the impossible. Luke has been very good for us and is a leader in the team. He is probably the best defensive scrum half in the country. His reading of the game and the way he tackles above his weight are superb. He runs great support lines and is the closest we have to Dupont in that area. He has issues in his game, particularly around his passing accuracy, but singling him out in the way you have is as bizarre as it is unfair.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭ Garda Kenny


    He has to work on those areas of his game though. Showing up and doing your role or the basics isn’t enough given the opportunities he’s been afforded over his career. He needs to add to the attack today and offer something which breaks the game open more than once or twice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ molloyjh


    He has to work on those areas of his game though. Showing up and doing your role or the basics isn’t enough given the opportunities he’s been afforded over his career. He needs to add to the attack today and offer something which breaks the game open more than once or twice.

    If only we had an example of him scoring a try against a team like Exeter in a tight European game....


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 30,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭ .ak


    Not sure where all the talk of McGrath not being an attacking scrumhalf is coming from. He's consistently one of our best snipers, what's his try tally at now? Must be high. He's an absolute flyer and is one of those 9's that's always in the right place on line breaks.

    His issue keeping him on the fringe of the Ireland setup are more around decision making and not being able to pass cleanly off both hands.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 30,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭ .ak


    I'm nervous tbh. Said it before but I think missing the Toulon game will hurt us more than it'll benefit us. Hope we take advantage of that and start strong.

    Right now, Exeter by 3 points for me. Hope I'm wrong!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,573 ✭✭✭ degsie


    So, VM show the Sale game but not the Leinster one??? Nuts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,220 ✭✭✭✭ Clegg


    Heart days Leinster but head says Exeter. European Champions and have a game that's built around seizing upon opposition frailties. Think the week off won't have done Leinster good in terms of in field cohesion. Hope I'm wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,703 ✭✭✭✭ Faugheen


    2 minutes silence is way too long.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,573 ✭✭✭ degsie


    Here we go!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,997 ✭✭✭ AbusesToilets


    Would they not use a better pick of The Duke? Like from a period when he wasn't looking like a corpse


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,220 ✭✭✭✭ Clegg


    That's some poor discipline from Leinster to begin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,049 ✭✭✭ KH25


    What was the free kick for?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,072 ✭✭✭ lawrencesummers


    The law is being laid down early here.


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