Most annoying politician at the minute

mariaalice

Yurt! wrote: »

Haven't been paying much attention to Chu, and don't know to what level she's been "playing the race card" so to speak, but I'll say the following:

Her parents were likely part of the first wave of Chinese / HK immigrants to Ireland, and these people didn't have it easy in a mono-ethnic Ireland. I recall when I was a kid there was one Asian kid in my class, looking back, other students did pick on him a fair bit and teachers weren't of much help to him either.

Ireland is also a desperately insider / outsider type of country to out detriment, and second-generation immigrants as talented as many of them are, often (understandably) have a little bit of a chip on their shoulder dealing with intra-generational networks and patronage that our country is riddled with.

I'd also say that someone moving to Ireland in adulthood and working in a defined profession for however many years is a different kettle of fish to bedding down into society. All well and good coming to work in Accenture or whatever, but wait until the immigrants try to muscle-in on the likes of Josepha Madigan or Marc McSharry's turf - then the sharp elbows come out.

Illustrative of this, I read an interesting article the other day about non EU doctors being almost completely shut out of further training opportunities and pathways to consultancy roles in our medical system. The unspoken rule is that these precious opportunities are reserved for the Irish scions of the classes that smuggle their precious darlings into UCD medical school by whatever means necessary. Fact is, they like their immigrants working in Starbucks, not out-competing their sons and daughters.

The chips on the shoulder are massive on that one, smuggles their offspring in to a 600+ point course in UCD? do you mean?

Get Real

Hazel Chu for me. How she turns any type of criticism into being a victim of racism. I welcome a more diverse and multi cultural political scene. But using race to shut down those that disagree with you is undemocratic.

Also, her Wikipedia page is carefully crafted and fits the narrative of a struggle to the top.

Rewording going to private boarding school as being sent there so her parents could work hard etc. I've no issue if you went to boarding school, but please, don't be so cringey. Your parents owned a business, were wealthy, and sent you to boarding school (and fair play to them) If they were struggling she'd be working with them to make ends meet.

To clarify, I am pro multiculturalism and love that we have a chance in this country to learn from each others cultures. I just think Chu is a one trick pony, and apart from one issue, has no political advantage. An issue that I believe she takes advantage of to the detriment of genuine victims of racism.

mariaalice

There are lots that are annoying but as I would not do the job for a million a year Id leaves them at it.

Any hypocrisy or trying to speak out of both sides of their month is an automatic fail for me or any gesture politics or seen-to-be-seen politics.


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Edgware

antimatterx wrote: »

So if you question our system with Varadkard filling the second seat out of 4, how do you feel about the people who were elected after him?

Probably supports the party whose leader refused to allow a co runner in case she didnt get the poll topper title and doesnt understand how P.R. works

BanditLuke

BanditLuke wrote: »

He's an absolute weapon and a thick to boot.

In what way is he stupid?

He effectively lost the FG leadership contest because he was considered to be a great man for policy, but lacked Varadkar's vapid "charisma", or what passes for charisma in that party.

Fine Gael used to pride themselves in producing politicians of substance, accurately or not. I think they really missed a trick in not selecting Coveney. I support a different political group, but Coveney is someone that no politician would like to be measured against. Even disagreeing with his politics, he exudes sensibility and pragmatism. He is dull in the way that only a politician, or a senior civil servant, should be.

This country has always regretted personality-driven Taoisigh, from Varadkar back to de Valera through Bertie and CJH. Victory to the nerds, for the nerds shall inherit the earth (that was by jesus)

For Forks Sake

AllForIt wrote: »

He has an odd speaking manner, really slow with unnecessary pauses, defiantly annoying.

The pauses are a corrective mechanism for a speech impediment he had in early life.

https://www.hotpress.com/culture/simon-coveney-interview-14356299

Does it recur in moments of stress?

It’s not normally stress-related for me. It's a really weird condition. No one has a solution to it. Everything has been tried from breathing programmes to hypnosis to drugs.

I think individuals have to find a way through. You’ll rarely see me read a speech, because I like to choose my words as I speak. People who stammer know the words and the syllables that they will have difficulty with, and so they tend to avoid them. Often, for example, people stutter on words that begin with C. So instead of talking about cows in the field, I might talk about the Friesians in the field (laughs).

My stammer started to get a lot better when I was 15 or 16. Who'd have thought that a spotty teenager, as I was, with a stammer, would end up as a government Minister who’s literally giving three or four speeches every day?

And speaking on television debates without having any difficulty with my speech, most of the time. Hopefully the two or three per cent of people in
the country that do have a stammer, particularly younger ones, will get some encouragement from that.

Pythagorean

Mary Lou "Chucky" Mc Donald.....Michelle "Tiffany" O' Neill..... Aengus "Fungus" O' Snodaigh......David "Up the Ra" Cullinane.

Dakota Dan

His hole Martin, can’t stand the sight of him and as for his babbling on without actually saying anything, don’t get me started. He was with the government when they fcuked the economy last time round and now he’s a UN puppet following orders to do even more damage to the economy and when the worlds elite have their plan in place they’ll cast the clown aside.

Yurt2

Dakota Dan wrote: »

His hole Martin, can’t stand the sight of him and as for his babbling on without actually saying anything, don’t get me started. He was with the government when they fcuked the economy last time round and now he’s a UN puppet following orders to do even more damage to the economy and when the worlds elite have their plan in place they’ll cast the clown aside.

QAnon has entered the building.

Dakota Dan

Pythagorean wrote: »

Mary Lou "Chucky" Mc Donald.....Michelle "Tiffany" O' Neill..... Aengus "Fungus" O' Snodaigh......David "Up the Ra" Cullinane.

Miss piggy with her sister set to clean up with the forced jabs, she’s more vile than the three stooges.

Hamachi

Stephen Gawking wrote: »

I haven't seen her in a few years but she honestly believes that no matter what she is the cleverest in the room. The quintessential child who never learned to share. Has also gone uber woke in the last few years it seems. Always got the impression that the more she got rejected by the electorate the less she thought of them.

Assumed that was the case. Was very surprised to see that another poster described her as very normal and highly pragmatic. That description is very far removed from the image she projects in the media.

I guess it’s all highly dependent on perception. One man’s normal is another’s quintessential nightmare.

Badabing

Paul Murphy. He hates people working

Badabing

Badabing wrote: »

Paul Murphy. He hates people working

He hates people working for exploitative purposes. Under socialism, everyone has to work. Socialists aren't so keen on shirking.

Not trying to defend him, it's just weird how this trope has crept in that socialists are anti work. If anything, a workers' republic is the opposite.

Badabing

He despises small to medium businesses aswell, thinks a coffee shop with 1-3 workers is as bad as Amazon. Never happy or supportive of big jobs in the country. Always moaning. Everything is a disgrace. RBB the same if not worse

lawred2

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Any examples of this thickness?

You'll be waiting a long while for a response.

Daniel2021

Micheal Martin ..jesus christ I didnt think it possible to have a worse Taoiseach than Enda Kenny for public speaking. He inspires zero confidence. I have done a fair bit of public speaking in the past as part of my job and I really question how our Taoiseach can be so poor at it.
The last company I worked for gave us all training with someone who specialises in this sort of thing. Surely the government can spring for some training for ministers and Micheal.

I'm from Cork and have friends from the same area as him (Turners Cross) and his accent makes him sound like he is the country bumpkin but Turners Cross is Cork City. I don't know if he puts it on or what but it wrecks my head when I hear him talk.

Yurt2

Badabing wrote: »

He despises small to medium businesses aswell, thinks a coffee shop with 1-3 workers is as bad as Amazon. Never happy or supportive of big jobs in the country. Always moaning. Everything is a disgrace. RBB the same if not worse

Does he really though?

Badabing

Yurt! wrote: »

Does he really though?

Yep. Always on the Attack with ISME

Yurt2

Badabing wrote: »

Yep. Always on the Attack with ISME

I know he had a ding-dong with ISME about sick pay rights. Are a lobby group the high priests of what's right and wrong now? That is to say to think he's making the argument that a coffee shop owner is a rapacious global capitalist isn't a credible one. You're entitled to criticise who you want, but your comment was silly; and I'm one of the people that said Murphy has a smug head

jmlad2020

CONEHEAD

Badabing

Yurt! wrote: »

I know he had a ding-dong with ISME about sick pay rights. Are a lobby group the high priests of what's right and wrong now? That is to say to think he's making the argument that a coffee shop owner is a rapacious global capitalist isn't a credible one. You're entitled to criticise who you want, but your comment was silly; and I'm one of the people that said Murphy has a smug head

Fair enough, He is very smug. In that particular exchange with ISME the guy was well able for him and handed him a lesson in doin homework and less bull****.

UDAWINNER

Pythagorean wrote: »

Mary Lou "Chucky" Mc Donald.....Michelle "Tiffany" O' Neill..... Aengus "Fungus" O' Snodaigh......David "Up the Ra" Cullinane.

Sensing you don't like a particular party:)
Leo for me along with Charlie Tan and not to be sexist Regina Doherty along with that fool Madigan

Degag

Etc wrote: »

Alan Kelly / David Cullinane

The latter most definitely. The grass is often not greener..... not sure i want to contemplate if he was health minister.

He showed his true colours in that pub a few years back.

Degag

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

The Healy-Rae brothers.

Danny or Michael, my hatred of them is interchangeable.

But probably Danny wins out for taking 3-4 minutes to say what anyone else could speak in no more than 25-30 seconds.....


Always seems drunk or extremely hung over.

Rather odd seeing as he doesn't drink no?

Your Face

Simon Coveney. I get a weird vibe when I hear him being interviewed.
Like he is into something greasy like Illuminati sex parties or worse.

A Tyrant Named Miltiades!

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Fine Gael used to pride themselves in producing politicians of substance, accurately or not. I think they really missed a trick in not selecting Coveney. I support a different political group, but Coveney is someone that no politician would like to be measured against.

I'm not so sure he will be the next FG leader either. Paschal Donohoe is starting to look like a shoe-in amongst the FG faithful.



Coveney will be the President of the EU.

Hangdogroad

Daniel2021 wrote: »

Micheal Martin ..jesus christ I didnt think it possible to have a worse Taoiseach than Enda Kenny for public speaking. He inspires zero confidence. I have done a fair bit of public speaking in the past as part of my job and I really question how our Taoiseach can be so poor at it.
The last company I worked for gave us all training with someone who specialises in this sort of thing. Surely the government can spring for some training for ministers and Micheal.

I'm from Cork and have friends from the same area as him (Turners Cross) and his accent makes him sound like he is the country bumpkin but Turners Cross is Cork City. I don't know if he puts it on or what but it wrecks my head when I hear him talk.

He has a regular Cork City accent, dont know what you're on about.

Dakota Dan

Hangdogroad wrote: »

He has a regular Cork City accent, dont know what you're on about.

Mumbling and babbling? Hardly.

rorrissey

Jack Chambers irks me to the core, and I can't manage to figure out why exactly that is...

angel eyes 2012

rorrissey wrote: »

Jack Chambers irks me to the core, and I can't manage to figure out why exactly that is...

I was scrolling to see if anyone mentioned him. Hasn't demonstrated that he has any of his own views or original thought, just seems to spoof his way up the political ladder while being completely manipulated by the FF machine in D15.