Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

SusanC10

sporina wrote: »

intercounty travel from when??? i'm confused

I can't see a confirmed Date. Though based on earlier comments from Eamonn Ryan, it could be June 7th to match the alleged date for Hotels etc. But who knows ?!

undertaker fan 88

SusanC10 wrote: »

I can't see a confirmed Date. Though based on earlier comments from Eamonn Ryan, it could be June 7th to match the alleged date for Hotels etc. But who knows ?!

May 10th

SusanC10

undertaker fan 88 wrote: »

May 10th

Where are you seeing that ?

I have only read the ever-changing IT article linked above which does not give a date for inter-county travel.

Stheno

SusanC10 wrote: »

Where are you seeing that ?

I have only read the ever-changing IT article linked above which does not give a date for inter-county travel.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1387463388104642563?s=19

TomSweeney

https://niallboylan.com/ivor-cummins-talks-about-covid-19-and-lockdowns/

Great podcast!

ArthurDayne

charlie14 wrote: »

So are you actually saying that social distancing, mask wearing,capacity limits, limitation of large crowd events, remote working, limiting numbers on trains and buses during rush hour and peoples on sense of self preservation were all that was needed to keep numbers and deaths down and ensure health services would not come under severe pressure without the need for any other form of lockdown ?
I hate to burst you bubble, but is that not what Sweden did, and are still doing, and even now with the same level of vaccination we have their health service is under severe pressure.


As to the rest of your post. From the very outset my belief that the only way out of this pandemic was through vaccination and everything possible should be done to minimise infections and deaths until vaccines became available.
You know, that pesky stuff, science. And you know what ?

That is exactly what is now happening. So if it`s all the same too you, I`ll stick with the science. I really cannot see any reason to consider changing horse mid-stream.

And again, this is a change of goalposts. This was never about "severe pressure" -- it was pressure to the extent of being unable to cope, and this incapacity would be to such a degree and duration that many thousands would die. If severe pressure was the threshold, you'll be on here many winters throughout your life seeking lockdowns. To say that people were scared of this virus because it might cause "severe pressure" to the health service is a distinct relegation of the severity of the threat this virus was touted as posing.

And you may well have always held that infections should be minimised by every means possible -- but the Irish people were certainly never presented the lockdown strategy on the basis of simply minimising Covid outright. Lockdown was an extreme unprecedented measure which was justified by the Government as being the response to the extreme scenario that (by not flattening the curve) the Irish health service would not just be under severe pressure -- but completely and utterly overrun for an indeterminate period, leading to many, many thousands dead.

Ultimately Charlie, you are rewriting the justification for lockdown -- and I can hardly blame you for that, because this gradual rewriting has been hammered out by the government and press as if it had always been consistent.

SusanC10

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1387463388104642563?s=19

That mentions last week in May for inter-county.

undertaker fan 88

SusanC10 wrote: »

That mentions last week in May for inter-county.

There

normanoffside

So from what I am gathering here is that Micheal Martin is so risk adverse that Tony Holohan has to tell him to open up.
Is that right?

Corholio

The Irish Times has no specific mention of inter-county travel in their article. Unless taking the 'meet anywhere' outside part literal of the households measure.

Edit: They vaguely mention it later in the article for June.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/nphet-gives-green-light-to-faster-than-expected-easing-of-restrictions-from-may-10th-1.4549950?mode=amp&_ga=2.42374437.1050793420.1618853575-1792717457.1618853575

Jinglejangle69

Think people are getting ahead of themselves.

Jinglejangle69

No indoor dining in June yet hotels can open??

Degag

11521323 wrote: »

Yet much slower than most of the World. What people are willing to accept in this country is baffling. I cant grasp what circulates through your mind.

Perhaps you should give a little look over to India to learn something about perspective?

LessOutragePlz

Degag wrote: »

Perhaps you should give a little look over to India to learn something about perspective?

Don't say the I word!

Have you not read the last 20 pages :pac:

normanoffside

Tony is going for president, I said it a year ago and now I have no doubt.

SusanC10

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Think people are getting ahead of themselves.

All a bit confusing. I am going to wait for the Official announcement. Sometime tomorrow, right ?

Jinglejangle69

SusanC10 wrote: »

All a bit confusing. I am going to wait for the Official announcement. Sometime tomorrow, right ?

6pm

KrustyUCC

normanoffside wrote: »

Tony is going for president, I said it a year ago and now I have no doubt.

Now that's a scary prospect

big syke

This is all a bit mad! Potentially inter county travel and hairdressers open before adults can go back training!

normanoffside

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Now that's a scary prospect

I know but watch it happen.

MOR316

normanoffside wrote: »

I know but watch it happen.

Nah...He'd have no power or influence then

landofthetree

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1387513973331877890

Id say whats happened in Israel has probably encouraged the easing of restrictions.

FintanMcluskey

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1387513973331877890

Id say whats happened in Israel has probably encouraged the easing of restrictions.

Or they’ve just realised the kitty is empty €€€€€€

This wasn’t cheap

11521323

SusanC10 wrote: »

Weddings are mentioned in the edited version of the IT article. (See my post above on why I hate the editing!)

Yes 25 people in June. How generous.

Absolutely ridiculous.

11521323

Degag wrote: »

Perhaps you should give a little look over to India to learn something about perspective?

You have to be taking the piss?

Busi_Girl08

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

No indoor dining in June yet hotels can open??

And intercounty travel before indoor house visits and hotels are open?

So I'd drive from dublin to limerick to have a cuppa in my parents garden and go home again?

All very exciting sounding changes but I'm not convinced. And there have been big u turns before. Will wait till tomorrow before I get too ahead of myself

SusanC10

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

And intercounty travel before indoor house visits and hotels are open?

So I'd drive from dublin to limerick to have a cuppa in my parents garden and go home again?

Reading a lot of contradictory things tonight. Doesn't make sense.
Better off waiting for the actual announcement tomorrow imo.

Jinglejangle69

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

And intercounty travel before indoor house visits and hotels are open?

So I'd drive from dublin to limerick to have a cuppa in my parents garden and go home again?

Doesn't add up.

Probably best off waiting until 6pm tomorrow.

Degag

11521323 wrote: »

You have to be taking the piss?

No, why would I be? Your post was the epitome of hyperbole.

ypres5

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Now that's a scary prospect

Lets be honest he'd have less power as president than he has at the moment as CMO. Give him a few ribbons to cut, hands to shake, babies to kiss and ****ty poems to recite and let him leave us be