Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

CalamariFritti

PTH2009 wrote: »

Please god they let barbers open next week, Badly need a haircut and shave

I look like Albert Einstein every morning. With a little more hair thankfully but you get the picture.

JeffKenna

PTH2009 wrote: »

Please god they let barbers open next week, Badly need a haircut and shave

Have you not shaved in four months?!!

Stheno

CalamariFritti wrote: »

I look like Albert Einstein every morning. With a little more hair thankfully but you get the picture.

One of my colleagues resembles a caveman

Penfailed

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Or many of the golfclubs in Ireland will have been liquidated by then

People need to realise many of these businesses in Ireland have weeks left not months

Five weeks since you posted this. How many golfclubs have been liquidated? ...or were you just doom-mongering when you posted it?

FintanMcluskey

Indestructable wrote: »

Chris De Burgh was cancelled today, due to be on October 10 in the Bord Gais. Covid cited as the reason. So yeah unlikely there will be events of any kind in this country.

The restrictions are preventing some suffering at least

PTH2009

JeffKenna wrote: »

Have you not shaved in four months?!!

Think i shaved in mid January

Stheno wrote: »

One of my colleagues resembles a caveman

I know how he feels

Penfailed

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The restrictions are preventing some suffering at least

To be fair to him, he's not my cup of tea but I saw him at Feile '93 and he was great. I wouldn't pay to see him on his own though...

growleaves

Penfailed wrote: »

Five weeks since you posted this. How many golfclubs have been liquidated? ...or were you just doom-mongering when you posted it?

A few Irish golf clubs have gone out of business recently:

Killorglin Golf Club closes after 28 years

Castleisland Golf Club 'no longer a viable enterprise'

From last year, a month into the 1st lockdown when they couldn't sort out a leasing agreement:

Offaly golf course to become farmland after shock closure

Water Rock golf course in East Cork will not be re-opening AFAIK. Not sure of the details.

mohawk

Vicxas wrote: »

Ok, so Az and J&J are for over 50's, shouldnt they just start doing under 50's with Pfizer and Moderna now?

I think they are still working down through the vulnerable list and plenty of them are under 50/60. Also there will be older people requiring their second dose so I can see why they won’t straight away.

You would hope the vaccine delivery schedule was taken into account when making this decision.

RTÉ News aka the propaganda wing of NPHET: "It is expected that vaccines could allow easing of even more restrictions over the summer. Doing everything in their power to dampen expectations, arra shure Paddy might get a jar by July if he's on his very bestest behaviour. No wonder the Brits are laughing at us.

hmmm

Deleted User wrote: »

RTÉ News aka the propaganda wing of NPHET: "It is expected that vaccines could allow easing of even more restrictions over the summer. Doing everything in their power to dampen expectations, arra shure Paddy might get a pint by July if he's on his very bestest behaviour. No wonder the Brits are laughing at us.

This is nearly over. Once everyone has been offered and received a vaccine there will be no justification for continuing restrictions. If there is a large group of unvaccinated (unlikely I think) we're going to need passports, but I doubt it.

MHQ should be ended for Europe at that time.

The pandemic will then be largely a third-world issue, and it will be in our interest to divert vaccines and other resources to help them cope.

Penfailed

growleaves wrote: »

A few Irish golf clubs have gone out of business recently:

Killorglin Golf Club closes after 28 years

Castleisland Golf Club 'no longer a viable enterprise'

From last year, a month into the 1st lockdown when they couldn't sort out a leasing agreement:

Offaly golf course to become farmland after shock closure

Water Rock golf course in East Cork will not be re-opening AFAIK. Not sure of the details.

Recently?! They were a year ago.

This is what Finbar said - "Or many of the golfclubs in Ireland will have been liquidated by then

People need to realise many of these businesses in Ireland have weeks left not months"

It's been "weeks" since his post. "Many of the golfclubs in Ireland" haven't been liquidated. There's over 400 clubs in Ireland. How many is many? I'd say at least 50...but that's up for debate.

Penfailed

Deleted User wrote: »

No wonder the Brits are laughing at us.

Are they? ...or is that in your head?

growleaves

Penfailed wrote: »

Recently?! They were a year ago.

This is what Finbar said - "Or many of the golfclubs in Ireland will have been liquidated by then

People need to realise many of these businesses in Ireland have weeks left not months"

It's been "weeks" since his post. "Many of the golfclubs in Ireland" haven't been liquidated. There's over 400 clubs in Ireland. How many is many? I'd say at least 50...but that's up for debate.

They're all under immense pressure. Many are bleeding cash and having to offer discounts to get renewals for the May reopening.

No one can predict liquidations exactly, its not a science. The only certainty is that when some business goes under half the people on this thread will say it wasn't viable anyway and would have gone under even if it hadn't been barred from trading.

suicide_circus

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Which makes Tony and NPHET sort of the shaman who impresses his village by making the sun disappear and re-appear cos he is the only one knowing the is an eclipse going on. And our government fell for it and still is.

Love this image

Penfailed

growleaves wrote: »

They're all under immense pressure. Many are bleeding cash and having to offer discounts to get renewals for the May reopening.

No one can predict liquidations exactly, its not a science. The only certainty is that when some business goes under half the people on this thread will say it wasn't viable anyway and would have gone under even if it hadn't been barred from trading.

I'm not disputing your first paragragh. It's a given that many businesses are currently struggling now and are going to in the future. With regard to your second paragragh, Fintin did. It's there in black and white. Half the people in this thread won't say what you've typed either. You might get a few at best.

irishgeo

growleaves wrote: »

They're all under immense pressure. Many are bleeding cash and having to offer discounts to get renewals for the May reopening.

No one can predict liquidations exactly, its not a science. The only certainty is that when some business goes under half the people on this thread will say it wasn't viable anyway and would have gone under even if it hadn't been barred from trading.

How are they bleeding cash?. They been closed. Only fees should be upkeep of the course.

Sharpyshoot

irishgeo wrote: »

How are they bleeding cash?. They been closed. Only fees should be upkeep of the course.

You are clueless to the costs in running a golf club.

scamalert

irishgeo wrote: »

How are they bleeding cash?. They been closed. Only fees should be upkeep of the course.

had same thought until realized they were closed for better part of the year, which means any rational members would pull their memberships, yet the green need to be maintained, not your average patch of grass that can be left to overgrow, add in seasonality and theres f all if you have 2-3 average months. Prob more costs go in as in every similar business that im missing as well.

FintanMcluskey

irishgeo wrote: »

How are they bleeding cash?. They been closed. Only fees should be upkeep of the course.

The upkeep costs just as much regardless if the members play the course or not

The clubs still have overheads and loans to service

The members fees are only one small source of income, competitions are a massive source of income for these places

Ireland has the global trophy for days of golf course closures across the globe, surpassing every other nation

Another proud accolade

Cluedo Monopoly

irishgeo wrote: »

How are they bleeding cash?. They been closed. Only fees should be upkeep of the course.

Many golf clubs are heavily indebted. How do they service that debt? They have many other costs besides course upkeep. Without competition they are not getting any sponsorship either.

JRant

hmmm wrote: »

This is nearly over. Once everyone has been offered and received a vaccine there will be no justification for continuing restrictions. If there is a large group of unvaccinated (unlikely I think) we're going to need passports, but I doubt it.

MHQ should be ended for Europe at that time.

The pandemic will then be largely a third-world issue, and it will be in our interest to divert vaccines and other resources to help them cope.

I would love to see how the government could justify extending any of the legislation under the Health Act. They are already on shaky ground and when 70%+ are vaccinated that disappears completely

AlekSmart

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That wouldn't sell papers/clicks or airtime though. There's a lot of people/companies doing very well out of all this between interviews, advertising, subscription fees etc.

True indeed.......

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0616/1147843-co-clare-company-gets-102m-for-supplying-ppe-to-hse/

Figures released by the HSE in response to a Freedom of Information request show that Ennis project management company, EKO Integrated Services Ltd, has received €102.36m for providing PPE and equipment to the HSE

EKO Integrated Services Ltd - which employs 12 people - received €93.5m for PPE and €8.7m for equipment.

The HSE figures confirm that Aer Lingus has been paid €7.48m for transporting vital shipments of PPE from China.

Figures show that two other Irish based companies received payments of over €30m from the HSE for PPE - the records show that Lennox Laboratories Ltd received €35.5m and Arco Safety Ltd received €32.4m.

As an integral part of an reset Mhór,the Government know that money will have to be taken from the masses somehow,so we might as well start with the demon drink...

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0426/1212127-minimum-unit-alcohol-pricing/

The move would set a minimum price of 10 cent per gram of alcohol, in order to reduce consumption and improve public health.

.....:rolleyes:

Total coincidence in the timing of this policy.....Next phase the increase in Fuel Oil duties to help us all save the planet n' stuff...;)

Forget yer oul Pandemic.......Follow the Money

M_Murphy57

lawred2 wrote: »

IBEC have been oddly quiet really... it's about time they piped up

I presume the fact we've clearly run out of road in terms of PUP and other Grants has something to do with it.

Doubt there'll be "an abundance of caution" when they go back to the old faithful of slashing the health and education budgets at the end of a pandemic and where children missed nearly a full year of schooling


https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40274552.html

Penfailed

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The upkeep costs just as much regardless if the members play the course or not

The clubs still have overheads and loans to service

The members fees are only one small source of income, competitions are a massive source of income for these places

Ireland has the global trophy for days of golf course closures across the globe, surpassing every other nation

Another proud accolade

Yet none have been liquidated in weeks like your doomsday prediction.

Penfailed

AlekSmart wrote: »

True indeed.......

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0616/1147843-co-clare-company-gets-102m-for-supplying-ppe-to-hse/







As an integral part of an reset Mhór,the Government know that money will have to be taken from the masses somehow,so we might as well start with the demon drink...

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2021/0426/1212127-minimum-unit-alcohol-pricing/

.....:rolleyes:

Total coincidence in the timing of this policy.....Next phase the increase in Fuel Oil duties to help us all save the planet n' stuff...;)

Forget yer oul Pandemic.......Follow the Money

These are not new suggestions. Minimum alcohol pricing has been mooted for years. There's already been a tax on fuel. Taxes generally only go one way.

AlekSmart

charlie14 wrote: »

Make a major difference in that it is a one shot vaccine. Especially so for hard to reach communities

"Hard to reach Communities " ......:eek:

Humanity has a Land Rover trundling around Mars,not to mention a Drone zipping around it's thin atmosphere,whilst back down on Planet Ireland we have highly respected,and hugely qualified Professionals of some sort,writing this stuff in a letter to Government.

Did NPHET somehow get it's letter misplaced with some Professional Advice to The Australian Government regarding the Aboriginal Communities way out in the Outback ?

Did no journalist enquire as to exactly where these "Hard to Reach" locations are,and what form of "Communities" are referred to....?

NPHET appear to be adopting a billiard table approach at this stage....Bizzarre stuff...?

growleaves

Penfailed wrote: »

I'm not disputing your first paragragh. It's a given that many businesses are currently struggling now and are going to in the future. With regard to your second paragragh, Finbar did. It's there in black and white. Half the people in this thread won't say what you've typed either. You might get a few at best.

No. It will be exactly 50%. Why I use the word 'half' if I didn't believe it would be a totally even split? I wouldn't, that would serve no logical function.

Penfailed

Penfailed wrote: »

Yet none have been liquidated in weeks like your doomsday prediction.

Oh...and for the avoidance of doubt, I think golf courses should have been opened ages ago.

normanoffside

According to a Clare Byrne poll there, 77% of the population want outdoor hospitality opened in May.
But Government don't plan it until the end of June.

It's a sad day when Claire Byrne viewers want more relaxations than the government.