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Dublin Lord Mayor Hazel Chu to stand as Independent in Seanad elections

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    Ms. Chu is in the Irish Times comic this weekend, touting her philosophy,which appears to me to come down to "it's all Whitey's fault" and that we are all born with inherent racism, except persons of colour/Asians. This is not so and I speak from experience. Now,I think the Catholic Church had already cornered the market on Original Sin, but apparently not. The Irish Times even put this philosophy into a handy box so you can cut it out and keep it on your fridge door or the back of your jacks door,as appropriate. I think I will fail to elect here to whatever sinecure she is craving.


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    All she has is the race ticket and her 3 year old child.
    Awful person. How did she get to be Lord Mayor?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Catherine Martin reading from a prepared statement to answer questions on TWIP. Even when Aine Lawlor was asking direct questions she continued with her prepared statement.

    It is strange to think that the Irish Times are really pushing for her entry to the seanad, what happens if she doesn't get elected, is it down to the small electoral base (Senators and TDs) or because she is Asian and a woman?

    The two bye-elections are inherently anti-democratic and this will be overshadowed by identity politics!

    I have as much change of getting elected by not running!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    He damn near singlehandedly resurrected the Green Party after their disaster

    50 billion euro is the figure he gave to retrofit houses. And only private houses at that. Public housing , schools et etc on top of that also

    He said it without blinking. Absolutely bonkers and a liability to have as a minister of multiple departments.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,282 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/emma-dabiri-and-hazel-chu-this-is-a-real-important-moment-in-ireland-1.4514803?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR1EgPMfCddxImSb1sGbcOb4nOSYYV901bqcqBgJuygt31jPPeo26twnGpQ

    Professional race baiters Hazel Chu and Emma Dabiri join forces with professional man hater Una Mullally to have a conversation about “what white people can do next” in todays extra anti white racist times article.

    Comes to the usual expected conclusions
    Interrogate capitalism
    “Exploitation and inequality are the operating logic of capitalism, in such an environment not only will racism flourish, it will remain a prerequisite.”
    Redistribute resources
    Vote for representatives committed to tackling inequality. Redistributing resources may depend on your personal and professional environment, such as mentorship.

    The usual TLDR : “The only solution to racism is socialism”


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    All she has is the race ticket and her 3 year old child.
    Awful person. How did she get to be Lord Mayor?

    Something I wondered myself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/emma-dabiri-and-hazel-chu-this-is-a-real-important-moment-in-ireland-1.4514803?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR1EgPMfCddxImSb1sGbcOb4nOSYYV901bqcqBgJuygt31jPPeo26twnGpQ

    Professional race baiters Hazel Chu and Emma Dabiri join forces with professional man hater Una Mullally to have a conversation about “what white people can do next” in todays extra anti white racist times article.

    Comes to the usual expected conclusions


    The usual TLDR : “The only solution to racism is socialism”

    As Yuri Bezmenov explained, these Useful Idiots will be the first up against the wall if a Socialist/Communist regime ever did take charge.

    “He was executed by a new Marxist who was more Marxist than this Marxist.”


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    ShagNastii wrote: »
    Trevor Sergent was an utterly credible politician.

    He is the only politician in recent times that resigned speedily as a point of principle when he was seen to do something wrong.

    I used to vote for him.
    Actually berated him in a conversation we had - for being so noble to the point of being overly pious - in resigning as the incident related to trying his best for a constituent. He said he was wrong and felt it was best.
    A man of integrity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I never used twitter up until a year ago and I always thought Twitter wasn't the real world, how it's just an online bubble with no effect on the real world.

    But then I started seeing Chu and the likes of O'Riordan. It's clear their whole politicial view and opinion is based off what their twitter followers want.

    Chu literally never gets off twitter. The second a new story breaks, she's straight onto twitter. Like when Michael Belfield died and she just said "RIP to the homeless man who died"...she wouldn't even wait for a name.

    She jumps the gun on every single story. She jumped the gun on George Nkencho. She jumped the gun on the Shelbourne monuments and she jumped the gun on the Carlow school teachers.

    She is constantly tweeting things that are not so thinly veiled attempts at trying to make everything think she's mad busy and hard working.

    "Thanks to @PatrickCostello for the 6am coffee while I'm on a meeting"

    "It's 1am and I think this little spider is telling me to stop working!"

    She is trying to make her family into some kind of celeb family too. "Mini Mayor" constantly photographed and put up for the world to see aswell.

    It's ironic that she's constantly saying how her kid has a right not to be racially abused etc. when she's constantly putting up pictures online of the kid. Does her kid not have a right to privacy too?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    paw patrol wrote: »
    I used to vote for him.
    Actually berated him in a conversation we had - for being so noble to the point of being overly pious - in resigning as the incident related to trying his best for a constituent. He said he was wrong and felt it was best.
    A man of integrity.

    He would have got back in 2011 had the constituency lines not changed, IMO. Well liked in the constituency. That was purely Willie O'Dea playing politics.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Eamonn Ryan seems to be someone who genuinely believes in environmentalism, is a bit scatter brained, essentially harmless but not power hungry or careerist in nature. The same cannot be said about the sharks circling him.

    I'd really wonder about Ryan. I keep rewatching the clip of him last April/May when he was in the Dail talking about salads. The tie off centre, using valuable speaking time at the height of fear in the pandemic to tell us to grow salads in case there's a food shortage.

    Nice chap and all, but only ever experience leafy suburb living. Peat briquettes are being imported from Germany while the lads in Bord na Mona were made unemployed.

    Innocent would be the word I'd use to describe Ryan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Elmo wrote: »
    He would have got back in 2011 had the constituency lines not changed, IMO. Well liked in the constituency. That was purely Willie O'Dea playing politics.

    he was indeed.
    Sadly the current Green TD Joe O'Brien isn't up to much. Although I haven't voted Green since Sargent left and given the current undercurrent of wokeness within the ranks I probably won't again


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    paw patrol wrote: »
    he was indeed.
    Sadly the current Green TD Joe O'Brien isn't up to much. Although I haven't voted Green since Sargent left and given the current undercurrent of wokeness within the ranks I probably won't again

    It's very evenly divided. If the Greens or Labour loss a seat here they are in trouble.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/emma-dabiri-and-hazel-chu-this-is-a-real-important-moment-in-ireland-1.4514803?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR1EgPMfCddxImSb1sGbcOb4nOSYYV901bqcqBgJuygt31jPPeo26twnGpQ

    Professional race baiters Hazel Chu and Emma Dabiri join forces with professional man hater Una Mullally to have a conversation about “what white people can do next” in todays extra anti white racist times article.

    Comes to the usual expected conclusions


    The usual TLDR : “The only solution to racism is socialism”

    The best thing white people can do next is not read baloney articles like that from The Irish Times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    The best thing white people can do next is not read baloney articles like that from The Irish Times.

    and write truthful book reviews and Wikipedia articles about these topics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,473 ✭✭✭Underground


    She's on a podcast today (ironically called the Echo Chamber podcast). The host just said that the idea that a woman from an ethnic minority background appearing on the ballot triggered opprobrium from certain corners. Echo Chamber indeed.

    To her credit, Chu said it wasn't to do with that and more to do with the fact that it was going against the Government pact. Unfortunately she immediately went on to talk about (you'll never guess) race and gender.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    The only reason Chu gives for running for the seat is race and gender.

    Does she not realise you need more to win a seat than things you have no control over (i.e her being a woman and her being a minority in Ireland).

    Voters in Ireland don't care what you are, they care what you do. Kerry people don't vote for the Healy Raes because he's a man from rural Ireland. They vote for them because they get results for their constituents.

    Imagine Adam Harris running and telling people "we need people with autism elected" no one would vote for him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    She relies heavily on her race and gender when being interviewed. Without them shed be nothing but another forgettable politician.

    Its all she bangs on about. She gets all this air time and column space and she never actually does anything but flex her own ego. I rarely her her speak about her opinion or ideas on homelessness crisis, crime (without making it a gender/race issue), the health care system.....anything else really. I know shes a Lord Mayor and not a minister, but still.

    Can she have an article or an interview that doesn't revolve around her banging the race, gender drum.

    She's got nothing else in her arsenal. Thankfully many se through her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Can she have an article or an interview that doesnt revolve around her banging the race, gender drum.

    Shes got nothing else in her arsenal. Thankfully many se through her.

    I’m convinced this constant need for the adrenaline response, provided by the next hit of attention, is a reaction to a youth lived as a non-entity.

    I know people who knew her in university. She was about two years ahead of me; I didn’t know her myself, but would have seen her around. People who were acquainted with her, described her as virtually invisible. She certainly wasn’t a hot commodity on the belfield campus.

    Now that she’s finally receiving some attention, she’s like a crack addict. I was particularly bemused by the critique of clubbing culture in Dublin. I’d doubt Hazel Chu has ever been out past 10 pm in her entire life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I agree with Senator Pauline O’Reilly. How can somebody be chair of a political party, and then go to an election not for that party?
    It doesn't make sense.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    biko wrote: »
    I agree with Senator Pauline O’Reilly. How can somebody be chair of a political party, and then go to an election not for that party?
    It doesn't make sense.

    I may be wrong, but I believe FF/FG/Greens have an agreement in place where teh Greens would back an FF/FG candidate.

    Chu obviously wants that spot and cant run as part of her party as she may have done in other circumstances.

    So either Chu personally or the Greens/parts of the Greens(silently) want to run but cant because of the agreement.

    Its either a work around the Greens, or Chu is running as part of her own interests. Things wont end well for someone whether its the relationship between the Greens and Government being damaged, or turmoil within the Greens, or Chu being exiled from the Greens.

    I believe option 2 is where its going.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    biko wrote: »
    I agree with Senator Pauline O’Reilly. How can somebody be chair of a political party, and then go to an election not for that party?
    It doesn't make sense.

    And Chu herself doesn't even think she can get elected. She's said herself she hasn't a hope in hell of winning it.

    Bizarre. Pure profile raising effort.

    She was on national media for a couple of days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    I may be wrong, but I believe FF/FG/Greens have an agreement in place where teh Greens would back an FF/FG candidate.

    Chu obviously wants that spot and cant run as part of her party as she may have done in other circumstances.

    So either Chu personally or the Greens/parts of the Greens(silently) want to run but cant because of the agreement.

    Its either a work around the Greens, or Chu is running as part of her own interests. Things wont end well for someone whether its the relationship between the Greens and Government being damaged, or turmoil within the Greens, or Chu being exiled from the Greens.

    I believe option 2 is where its going.

    There was talk of her joining the Soc Dems months ago so there must be something in it. Ryan can't be hard handed on her though because there's a sizeable chunk of the greens who are like Chu so Ryan going against them will dismantle the party. The rebel greens can do what they want.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    There was talk of her joining the Soc Dems months ago so there must be something in it. Ryan can't be hard handed on her though because there's a sizeable chunk of the greens who are like Chu so Ryan going against them will dismantle the party. The rebel greens can do what they want.

    Ive soured on her in recent months/last year. The more her profile has grown, the more transparent her bad politics are. She does get plenty of unwarranted abuse (those protests outside her home is the worst).

    I like the social dems, Id like to see them gather some ground in the next election. Labour seem to be dying and the Greens dont seem to be pushing ahead after a good election. Id like the so more SD's elected.

    But adding Chu to the mix will make me reevaluate that opinion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    I may be wrong, but I believe FF/FG/Greens have an agreement in place where teh Greens would back an FF/FG candidate.

    Chu obviously wants that spot and cant run as part of her party as she may have done in other circumstances.

    So either Chu personally or the Greens/parts of the Greens(silently) want to run but cant because of the agreement.

    Its either a work around the Greens, or Chu is running as part of her own interests. Things wont end well for someone whether its the relationship between the Greens and Government being damaged, or turmoil within the Greens, or Chu being exiled from the Greens.

    I believe option 2 is where its going.

    I don't believe there is an agreement, I could be wrong but I though Catherine Martin had said that.

    Even if there is as Chair of the Party you have some sway as to that party policy, she could have argued against the agreement and insisted that the party run candidates.

    If party policy was simply not to run a candidate then she also could have argued against this policy.

    Instead she seems to have fallen into line with the party on not running a candidate and then changed her minded.

    I believe Chu follows the party line, and has no intention of moving to the SocDems.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Elmo wrote: »
    I don't believe there is an agreement, I could be wrong but I though Catherine Martin had said that.

    Even if there is as Chair of the Party you have some sway as to that party policy, she could have argued against the agreement and insisted that the party run candidates.

    If party policy was simply not to run a candidate then she also could have argued against this policy.

    Instead she seems to have fallen into line with the party on not running a candidate and then changed her minded.

    I believe Chu follows the party line, and has no intention of moving to the SocDems.

    I perhaps am wrong, but Im sure I heard something was in place.

    If no agreement between FF/FG, then why cant she run for the Greens? Why would they not want a candidate to run?

    Martin, most likely future Green leader, is backing her, so I doubt shes moving party.

    I do believe that it wont be long before Chu herself fancies herself as a party leader.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,892 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I'd like to know why she hasn't resigned as Lord Mayor yet.

    Whether she's in an election campaign or just distracted with all this party nonsense, she isn't giving full attention to her position as first citizen of this City and Chair of the City Council.

    She should resign instantly and the Deputy Lord Mayor should complete the term as Mayor until the end of June.


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    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I'd like to know why she hasn't resigned as Lord Mayor yet.

    Whether she's in an election campaign or just distracted with all this party nonsense, she isn't giving full attention to her position as first citizen of this City and Chair of the City Council.

    She should resign instantly and the Deputy Lord Mayor should complete the term as Mayor until the end of June.

    She wont, because she's one of those career politicians who tries to make out "I'm only in it for the children and to make the world a better place".

    Sadly enough people believe these bluffers and cant seen through their self centred attitudes.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    She should resign instantly and the Deputy Lord Mayor should complete the term as Mayor until the end of June.

    There's no precedent for that. No other sitting Lord Mayor as resigned when they ran for election to another office.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    There's no precedent for that. No other sitting Lord Mayor as resigned when they ran for election to another office.

    True, how do any of us know how good a job shes really doing. Granted, public perception I believe she could do better, but I dont know for sure.

    She would have people believe shes doing a great job with her "6am" starts and her "1am" time calling as per her Tweets. (like she really wants you to believe shes hard working)


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