BMW iX

MJohnston

I’m not sure if this info was shared elsewhere on the forum already but this thing probably deserves a thread. Full details are already up on the BMW.ie website:

https://www.bmw.ie/en/all-models/bmw-i/bmw-ix/2020/Highlights.html#reserve

Some highlights from the xDrive 50 version:
OTR €107,895
Range greater than 600km WLTP
200kW charging

TitianGerm

MJohnston wrote: »

I’m not sure if this info was shared elsewhere on the forum already but this thing probably deserves a thread. Full details are already up on the BMW.ie website:

https://www.bmw.ie/en/all-models/bmw-i/bmw-ix/2020/Highlights.html#reserve

Some highlights from the xDrive 50 version:
OTR €107,895
Range greater than 600km WLTP
200kW charging

When I was growing up there used to be a cartoon on TV with a beaver as one of the characters. The grill on that car looks exactly like that beavers teeth.

AidenL

I like it.

It may well be my next car after this 530e I just bought.

unkel

BMW design has been pretty poor this last decade or so. Looks like an X3. Does not look like a >€100k vehicle.

And before anyone jumps down my neck, I have had more BMWs than all my other cars put together. BMW is my favourite car make of all time. I actually miss owning one.

MJohnston

Yeah I would agree that this is the least impressive of their EV designs. The tech is interesting though. The more the merrier too.

ted1

unkel wrote: »

BMW design has been pretty poor this last decade or so. Looks like an X3. Does not look like a >€100k vehicle.

And before anyone jumps down my neck, I have had more BMWs than all my other cars put together. BMW is my favourite car make of all time. I actually miss owning one.

Infairness the x40 as starts at 80k. But cheeky advertising 11KW charging at home

unkel

ted1 wrote: »

But cheeky advertising 11KW charging at home

Could it be that the ad was aimed at the home market? Many homes in Germany have a 3ph connection, so can charge a car at 11kW or even 22kW (if the car allows)

Personally I have to go to my favourite German retailer in Ireland to get some free 22kW juice while I do my weekly shop

ted1

unkel wrote: »

Could it be that the ad was aimed at the home market? Many homes in Germany have a 3ph connection, so can charge a car at 11kW or even 22kW (if the car allows)

Personally I have to go to my favourite German retailer in Ireland to get some free 22kW juice while I do my weekly shop

It’s on the .ie site.

MJohnston

ted1 wrote: »

It’s on the .ie site.

The Irish site constantly just lifts copy from the European sites and doesn’t properly adjust it.

JohnC.

What's the issue, if it can do 11kW? It's not their fault if most homes can't do it. But some can, so why advertise a lesser spec than the car can actually do?

heroics

I like the look of it except for the front. Those kidney grills look terrible imo.

Fitz II

107k...eek. And thats a face only a mother could love.

ted1

JohnC. wrote: »

What's the issue, if it can do 11kW? It's not their fault if most homes can't do it. But some can, so why advertise a lesser spec than the car can actually do?

How many homes in Ireland can charge at 11KW? It’s blatantly misleading.

JohnC.

ted1 wrote: »

How many homes in Ireland can charge at 11KW? It’s blatantly misleading.

It's not though. They're listing the car specs, not your home's specs. The car can charge at 11kW, can it not? If someone sells a supercar which can do 500km/h, are you going to accuse them of being misleading because the speed limit is 120?

NSAman

Interesting range ...but christ it’s Uuuuugly!

BMW really have lost the war on design in the past decade or two. Chris Bangle must be laughing at this stage!

ted1

JohnC. wrote: »

It's not though. They're listing the car specs, not your home's specs. The car can charge at 11kW, can it not? If someone sells a supercar which can do 500km/h, are you going to accuse them of being misleading because the speed limit is 120?

It’s misleading. Your analogy isn’t the same because people can Still go 500kmh.

“ minutes. At home, you can recharge your BMW iX xDrive50 using your convenient BMW Wallbox with up to 11 kW – and reach 100% battery charge in under 11 hours (BMW iX xDrive40: in under 8 hours).”

after spending over €100,000 on a car people are going to be pissed off to find out they can’t charge as claimed.

Why bother saying 11KW, why by go to he full hog and say you can home charge at 200KW

v10

https://www.bmw.ie/en/all-models/bmw-i/bmw-ix/2020/Highlights.html

from €85815 ...
400+ km range on xDrive40

or 600+ km on xDrive50 (€112895)

ELM327

Looks lovely. Is this the "iX5" or "iX7" equivalent?
They really need to sort the naming conventions for EVs - there's the i3, the ix3 which made sense.

v10

ELM327 wrote: »

Looks lovely. Is this the "iX5" or "iX7" equivalent?
They really need to sort the naming conventions for EVs - there's the i3, the ix3 which made sense.

It seems to be X5 size from what I can see, naming is a bit weird alright.

ELM327

Have been doing some quick googling and yes it seems to be x5 sized but top of the range - like the X7 - for the "X" of evs if that makes sense.

Also no tow rating so far, would expect it could tow.

I love a good large SUV and love a good fast bimmer and this is both

v10

v10 wrote: »

https://www.bmw.ie/en/all-models/bmw-i/bmw-ix/2020/Highlights.html

from €85815 ...
400+ km range on xDrive40

or 600+ km on xDrive50 (€112895)

Grants not included, so could these potentially be less or would they fall outside of the currently available grant rules ?

kanuseeme

The grill reminds me of some type of rodent.

Black_Knight

v10 wrote: »

Grants not included, so could these potentially be less or would they fall outside of the currently available grant rules ?

€5k SEAI grant would only apply.

v10

Black_Knight wrote: »

€5k SEAI grant would only apply.

Only? what else is there ?

Either way, the price could be 5K less ?

ELM327

There's no more VRT grant, VRT is a flat 7%.
Even with the 5k SEAI grant, we still pay 7% VRT and 23% VAT on EVs compared to almost 0 in most other EU countries. An incremental 30% tax on that segment of car adds up quickly!

innrain

Black_Knight wrote: »

€5k SEAI grant would only apply.

If you get the car in the next 40 days.

NSAman

Have to say it’s Uuuuuugly!

ELM327

innrain wrote: »

If you get the car in the next 40 days.

Nope, the grant is available regardless


https://www.seai.ie/news-and-media/electric-vehicle-grant/

innrain

ELM327 wrote: »

Nope, the grant is available regardless


https://www.seai.ie/news-and-media/electric-vehicle-grant/

In addition, the grant for both EVS and PHEVS will only apply to cars under €60,000.

Black_Knight

ELM327 wrote: »

Nope, the grant is available regardless


https://www.seai.ie/news-and-media/electric-vehicle-grant/

So I see. 80k, 85k, whatever, never affordable to me.

KCross

v10 wrote: »

Grants not included, so could these potentially be less or would they fall outside of the currently available grant rules ?

Black_Knight wrote: »

€5k SEAI grant would only apply.

v10 wrote: »

Only? what else is there ?

Either way, the price could be 5K less ?

ELM327 wrote: »

There's no more VRT grant, VRT is a flat 7%.
Even with the 5k SEAI grant, we still pay 7% VRT and 23% VAT on EVs compared to almost 0 in most other EU countries. An incremental 30% tax on that segment of car adds up quickly!

ELM327 wrote: »

Nope, the grant is available regardless


https://www.seai.ie/news-and-media/electric-vehicle-grant/

The price is the price. No VRT relief or grant for this car.

The new rules are....

Grant
1 Jul 2021 reduced grant of €2500 for some PHEV's. Others get nothing if they dont meet range/emission requirements.
€5000 for BEV's
but only if RRP is <€60k

VRT relief
VRT relief already gone for all hybrids and PHEVs
BEV - Up to €5k but no relief for €50k+ cars

This car is greater than €50k and €60k, so no grant or VRT relief.

v10

KCross wrote: »

The price is the price. No VRT relief or grant for this car.

The new rules are....

Grant
1 Jul 2021 reduced grant of €2500 for some PHEV's. Others get nothing if they dont meet range/emission requirements.
€5000 for BEV's
but only if RRP is <€60k

VRT relief
VRT relief already gone for all hybrids and PHEVs
BEV - Up to €5k but no relief for €50k+ cars

This car is greater than €50k and €60k, so no grant or VRT relief.

OK that's clearer, the price is the price so, thanks.

listermint

v10 wrote: »

OK that's clearer, the price is the price so, thanks.

Would it matter. It's ambitiously ugly. Like a real yak looking thing. BMW really lost their essence of late. I don't see this Bentley psuedo rip off aging well either .

v10

listermint wrote: »

Would it matter. It's ambitiously ugly. Like a real yak looking thing. BMW really lost their essence of late. I don't see this Bentley psuedo rip off aging well either .

Maybe, I'll judge it when I see it in the flesh. I'd rather the look of an X5 tho.

In saying that, it's not Tesla ugly. IMO.

listermint

v10 wrote: »

Maybe, I'll judge it when I see it in the flesh. I'd rather the look of an X5 tho.

In saying that, it's not Tesla ugly. IMO.

It is though the low shoulder lines running down the length of the top of the doors the high ridge of the a pillar roof all the way back. It's actually looks like one of the Chinese collaborations from ten years ago where they would steal bits of other marques design and make a jam together.

v10

listermint wrote: »

It is though the low shoulder lines running down the length of the top of the doors the high ridge of the a pillar roof all the way back. It's actually looks like one of the Chinese collaborations from ten years ago where they would steal bits of other marques design and make a jam together.

I dunno, similar money to a base Tesla Model S .. I'd take this any day

AidenL

I’d be interested in one of these for my next car.

ELM327

As I always say, I was a bimmer fanboy since I had my first e60 in my mid 20s - and long before I was a Tesla fanboy.
Id love this!

Oafley Jones

Given that I hate the weird kink lines, odd proportions, strange bulbous growths and hilarious large grills that have crept up on nearly every BMW in the current generation, I was fully expecting to click on something I hated. Strangely, I don't mind it. It's far, far better than the X7 I was parked next to yesterday.

sumo12

Good Lord that front end and grille is horrendous. Chrysler Ypsilon on steroids. I realise beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that but generally BMW's are decent looking

Normal One

Looks ugly af in pics, maybe it’ll be ok in real life. The grille makes it look all narrow and tall. It’s very uninteresting, was hoping for something like an evolution of the i3 design for this.

unkel

I've been a BMW fanboi for many decades. I've owned about a dozen of their cars. My last one was a straight 6 petrol E60. When it came to the time to replace it, there was nothing out there, just sh1t cancer diesels. Had a look at other makes then like Mercedes and Jaguar, was the same. So I bought a brand new electric Hyundai.

I'd like to get back into the fold, but there is nothing, not even in the pipeline, from BMW that even remotely interests me. Why can't they just do a fully electric 3 series or 5 series as a hatchback? Preferably without those idiotic grilles?



BMW had a good start nearly a decade ago with electrification until that asshole Krüger blocked that division and caused it to pretty much dismantle. Now BMW are so far behind, they might never make it back

cannco253

https://youtu.be/oejorlv84Z4

Bjorn BMW iX interior review

hmm

ELM327

Saw bjorns video.
I love it.
A real model X competitor. If this gets here before the cybertruck I may end up with this instead.
125kWh battery and 600km range with 200kW charging and ionity support?

NOw if we could just stop getting outbid on houses and actually get moved any time soon I may order it! I see the dealers are taking €1k preorders already

smackyB

Am I wrong or is 300 miles from a 125kw/h(!) battery pack a really poor energy efficiency figure?

ELM327

600km is 400 miles not 300.

125kWh to do 600km is 209wh/km which is actually comparable to an MX

smackyB

Ah right, it's the 111.5kW battery that gets 300 miles. Not brilliant compared to other EVs but ok I guess for SUVs of this size. Was hoping to see a hatchback or an estate coming out from BMW rather than another luxury SUV - the market is saturated with them.

unkel

smackyB wrote: »

Was hoping to see a hatchback or an estate coming out from BMW rather than another luxury SUV - the market is saturated with them.

This. I don't give a rats that SUVs are fashionable. I want a hatchback. Super low centre of gravity and all the practicality you need for a family of 5 + dog. I carried a complete large PV installation in my hatchback yesterday, including 12 oversized solar panels. And I didn't even need to use the frunk or any of the seats.

Or indeed an estate but the missus dislikes their form factor.

drumm23

looks much better in that Bjorn video than the pics - they will sell a ton of them I'd think

unkel

drumm23 wrote: »

looks much better in that Bjorn video than the pics

Agreed. It's bigger than I thought, proper Model X competitor.

AidenL

ELM327 wrote: »

Saw bjorns video.
I love it.
A real model X competitor. If this gets here before the cybertruck I may end up with this instead.
125kWh battery and 600km range with 200kW charging and ionity support?

NOw if we could just stop getting outbid on houses and actually get moved any time soon I may order it! I see the dealers are taking €1k preorders already

I agree. Definitely my next car, unless something changes.