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Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

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    #5732
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Peter Phillips. Zara Phillips. Lady Louise and Viscount Severn are all grandchildren of the Queen but are not Princes and Princesses.

    Who is Viscount Severn? He sounds like a character from Harry Potter!


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    #5733
    [Deleted User]
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    jm08 wrote: »
    He will be a grandchild of the next king though (unless Charles is going to be skipped for William).


    Can anyone explain why it was said that Harry & Meghan decided that they did not want a title for Archie when that isn't true. Who made that tale up?

    They didn’t want him to be a Lord. They’re holding out for a Prince. It’ll be up to Charles whether he is made one or not.


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    #5734
    [Deleted User]
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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Who is Viscount Severn? He sounds like a character from Harry Potter!

    Edwards lad. I can’t think of his actual name!


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    #5735
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,165 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    jm08 wrote: »
    He will be a grandchild of the next king though (unless Charles is going to be skipped for William).


    Can anyone explain why it was said that Harry & Meghan decided that they did not want a title for Archie when that isn't true. Who made that tale up?

    No idea who made up any tales..

    Not sure anyone here does either..

    Now, can you accept the awarding of the titles to William’s children as being genuine? And that Archie not being awarded title of Prince as genuine..

    After it has been clearly explained to you what happened here..


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    #5736
    volchitsa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,191 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    jm08 wrote: »
    The claim was that only the children of those directly in line to the throne were given a title. But that is not the case. Its only the first born and all the rest are discretionary. Now that you know this, I want to know why you think Archie was excluded.



    I want to know why you think they are not racist.

    Because Archie's father is not going to be the king, unlike Charlotte and Louis.


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    #5737
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Peter Phillips. Zara Phillips. Lady Louise and Viscount Severn are all grandchildren of the Queen but are not Princes and Princesses.


    Thats because their parents opted not to give them titles. Unlike Andrew who chose for his kids to be Princesses.


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    #5738
    Sardonicat
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Edwards lad. I can’t think of his actual name!

    Oh, I didn't realise had a son too. What a feckin mouthful.


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    #5739
    [Deleted User]
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    jm08 wrote: »
    Thats because their parents opted not to give them titles. Unlike Andrew who chose for his kids to be Princesses.

    For the umpteenth time......Archie isn’t automatically entitled to a title. Get over it!


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    #5740
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    jm08 wrote: »
    Thats because their parents opted not to give them titles. Unlike Andrew who chose for his kids to be Princesses.

    Edward's kids do have titles. Viscount and Lady.


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    #5741
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    jm08 wrote: »
    He will be a grandchild of the next king though (unless Charles is going to be skipped for William).


    Can anyone explain why it was said that Harry & Meghan decided that they did not want a title for Archie when that isn't true. Who made that tale up?

    Why do you keep shifting goalposts and changing tack when you are pulled up and corrected on something? You initially said the RF didn’t want Meghan to get help, you were corrected on that and then started on something else. It was then pointed out to you that Meghan drafted in her own team of personal doctors, so you then changed tack again and started on about why Archie wasn’t given a title despite being a grandchild. Now it has been explained to you why he wasn’t given a title and that he is not a grandchild and you’re asking why Harry and Meghan didn’t want a title for Archie. It’s pointless conversing with you, you’re using dishonest tactics and not accepting the responses of posters who are replying in good faith. You will be back again in a few days asking all of the same questions again.


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    #5742
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    volchitsa wrote: »
    Because Archie's father is not going to be the king, unlike Charlotte and Louis.


    Prince Andrew is not going to be King, but his children are Princesses.


    The rule is that only the eldest born great grandchild is entitled to a title. The rest are at the monarch's discretion.


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    #5743
    Leg End Reject
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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Who is Viscount Severn? He sounds like a character from Harry Potter!

    :D
    Edward and Sophie's son, I only heard of him at the funeral.
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #5744
    [Deleted User]
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Edwards lad. I can’t think of his actual name!

    His names James, Mr Google tells me! https://www.google.com/search?q=viscount+severn&rlz=1C9BKJA_enIE744IE744&hl=en-GB&prmd=inv&sxsrf=ALeKk01_1XAK6BYDJW-3QBMqzS8Kp2zDhg:1618767847757&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi-8qeUrIjwAhUUShUIHXrVDS4Q_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=1024&bih=641&dpr=2#imgrc=8ByElNDiG4G-6M


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    #5745
    [Deleted User]
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    jm08 wrote: »
    Prince Andrew is not going to be King, but his children are Princesses.


    The rule is that only the eldest born great grandchild is entitled to a title. The rest are at the monarch's discretion.

    No.
    That is not the rule.
    You are either trolling or very hard to catch on.


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    #5746
    Leg End Reject
    Registered Users Posts: 16,756 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    jm08 wrote: »
    Prince Andrew is not going to be King, but his children are Princesses.


    The rule is that only the eldest born great grandchild is entitled to a title. The rest are at the monarch's discretion.

    You do realise Archie is a great grandchild? His father Harry is a grandchild.
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #5747
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,165 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    jm08 wrote: »
    Prince Andrew is not going to be King, but his children are Princesses.


    The rule is that only the eldest born great grandchild is entitled to a title. The rest are at the monarch's discretion.

    Now you have got it..

    Finally..

    Now, the Queen used this discretion to award titles to ALL William’s children here.

    Used this discretion before Harry and Markle even knew each other..

    Again, are you accepting this as genuine, or racist as regards Archie not being titled a prince?


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    #5748
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,165 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    You do realise Archie is a great grandchild? His father Harry is a grandchild.

    That was pointed out several times!!


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    #5749
    retro:electro
    Registered Users Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    jm08 wrote: »
    Prince Andrew is not going to be King, but his children are Princesses.


    The rule is that only the eldest born great grandchild is entitled to a title. The rest are at the monarch's discretion.

    Beatrice and Eugenie are grandchildren of the Queen. Archie will be entitled to be Prince Archie when Charles, his grandfather, is King. What exactly is it about this that isn’t registering with you?


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    #5750
    Deeec
    Registered Users Posts: 4,846 ✭✭✭Deeec


    jm08 wrote: »
    Prince Andrew is not going to be King, but his children are Princesses.


    The rule is that only the eldest born great grandchild is entitled to a title. The rest are at the monarch's discretion.

    Andrews children were born before rules changed. I think you need to write to the palace to explain it to you.


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    #5751
    volchitsa
    Registered Users Posts: 7,191 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Deeec wrote: »
    Andrews children were born before rules changed. I think you need to write to the palace to explain it to you.

    And moreover were the monarch's grandchildren, unlike Archie.


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    #5752
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    jm08 wrote: »
    Prince Andrew is not going to be King, but his children are Princesses.


    The rule is that only the eldest born great grandchild is entitled to a title. The rest are at the monarch's discretion.

    Why was the queen herself a Princess, and her sister, before David abdicated and their Dad was Duke of York (like Andrew, now), before it was ever imagined she would be heir to the throne. Maybe that is why she gave Beatrice and Eugenie the title of 'Princess', as she and Margeret, as daughters of a former Duke of York were also given that privilege. AFAIK, all the other grandchildren of George v were Dukes, Viscounts, Ladies, etc.


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    #5753
    Itssoeasy
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    jm08 wrote: »
    Thats because their parents opted not to give them titles. Unlike Andrew who chose for his kids to be Princesses.

    Again that’s incorrect and you know this. Andrew’s daughters are grandchildren on the male line so are entitled to have the title of Prince or princess just like Harry and William have it. Edward was the only one who opted out. Anne’s kids weren’t getting them by right and it’s been reported that the queen wanted to give them titles but princess Anne said no.


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    #5754
    [Deleted User]
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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Why was the queen herself a Princess, and her sister, before David abdicated and their Dad was Duke of York (like Andrew, now), before it was ever imagined she would be heir to the throne. Maybe that is why she gave Beatrice and Eugenie the title of 'Princess', as she and Margeret, as daughters of a former Duke of York were also given that privilege. AFAIK, all the other grandchildren of George v were Dukes, Viscounts, Ladies, etc.

    She was a grandchild of the monarch.
    Grandchildren are entitled to be prince or princess.
    Great grandchildren are not.


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    #5755
    Sardonicat
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    Leg End Reject wrote: »
    :D
    Edward and Sophie's son, I only heard of him at the funeral.

    I only heard of him a few minutes ago on this thread!


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    #5756
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    bubblypop wrote: »
    She was a grandchild of the monarch.
    Grandchildren are entitled to be prince or princess.
    Great grandchildren are not.

    But bone of her cousins were princes or princesses.


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    #5757
    Itssoeasy
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    jm08 wrote: »
    Were they her medical team of private doctors or the RF's medical team of private doctors?

    Would it matter ? Unless you are now trying to imply that the RF doctors have a motive to pick and choose who to help which IMO is a shocking to imply.


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    #5758
    Leg End Reject
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    walshb wrote: »
    That was pointed out several times!!

    Doesn't seem to have stuck though!

    What's next? The Wombles of Wimbledon Common are racist and that's why the tennis players have to wear white?
    https://forumofgames.com/index.php




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    #5759
    [Deleted User]
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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    But bone of her cousins were princes or princesses.

    How do you mean? She does have cousins that are prince and Princess


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    #5760
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,754 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Why was the queen herself a Princess, and her sister, before David abdicated and their Dad was Duke of York (like Andrew, now), before it was ever imagined she would be heir to the throne. Maybe that is why she gave Beatrice and Eugenie the title of 'Princess', as she and Margeret, as daughters of a former Duke of York were also given that privilege. AFAIK, all the other grandchildren of George v were Dukes, Viscounts, Ladies, etc.

    The children of his sons who had children were Prince and princess.


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    #5761
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    bubblypop wrote: »
    How do you mean? She does have cousins that are prince and Princess

    Does she? Who?


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