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Firearms / House Alarm

  • 01-02-2021 7:32pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭ corelokttikka


    Ive been told my house needs an alarm if there are 4 firearms or more. What kind of alarm is acceptable, basic or does it have to be monitored etc..


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,540 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Cass


    By whom?

    I only ask because if its the FO or Super then you must. If its someone that is a friend or basically not in authority then they may be wrong (depending on type of firearm). The Minimum standard for 4 firearms is:
    Each firearm shall be stored in a gun safe which complies with BS 7558 and which shall be securely fixed to a solid structure. The place in which the firearms are stored shall have an alarm fitted and the external doors to the place shall be fitted with locks which comply with BS 3621.
    That means an alarm to the room the safes are in or the safes themselves.

    If three or all four are restricted you need the house alarm and it must be monitored as per the minimum standards of level security:
    In addition to the standards specified at reference number 3, the place in which the firearms are stored shall have an intruder alarm system, installed and maintained by installers licensed by the Private Security Authority, which complies with I.S. EN 50131 or an equivalent standard approved by the Commissioner of the Garda Síochána.The alarm shall be connected to a monitoring service, operated by a person licensed by the Private Security Authority, and supported with GSM Mobile telephone service back up signalling facilities.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭ corelokttikka


    pm sent


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭ Richard308


    This poses an interesting conundrum. “The alarm shall be connected to a monitoring service, operated by a person licenced by the spa, and supported by gsm mobile telephone service back up signalling facilities”. Does anyone know of a reasonable service I have the alarm and gsm back up. Just don’t want to throw €30 a month down the drain for peace of mind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭ dunner515


    Is it the room or the safe itself that needs to be alarmed or is it the house itself?
    Would it suffice having the external doors and windows alarmed?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭ cookimonster


    I have always interpreted as the dwelling or place were the firearms are stored.

    For the purpose of this comment I will say that the firearms are in a safe and all firearms are unrestricted.

    Scenario One:

    Work shop, Garage, Shed, etc.- then the building must be alarmed and any doors or windows must have a suitable lock- ie standard locks and catches as seen on standard external doors and windows.

    Scenario Two
    House or Apartment- then the building or unit must be alarmed and the same, same for locks and catches.

    This was introduced because there were multitude of firearms stored at frount doors / back doors, just inside porches, barns and sheds with no doors let alone locks and not to forget the countless numbers of guns left on the floors of vehicles around the country. It wasn't just a raft of thefts from urban houses that drove this.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,184 ✭✭✭✭ BattleCorp


    dunner515 wrote: »
    Is it the room or the safe itself that needs to be alarmed or is it the house itself?
    Would it suffice having the external doors and windows alarmed?

    I think it's the room where the safe is located.

    That said, if you are going to the bother of installing an alarm, I think you'd be as well off to do the whole house while you are at it.

    I'd PIR's in every room in the house. The CPO inspected my house and told me I'd be better off with window sensors as someone is already in the house by the time they are picked up by the PIR's. Made sense to me so I went and got windown sensors too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,184 ✭✭✭✭ BattleCorp


    Richard308 wrote: »
    This poses an interesting conundrum. “The alarm shall be connected to a monitoring service, operated by a person licenced by the spa, and supported by gsm mobile telephone service back up signalling facilities”. Does anyone know of a reasonable service I have the alarm and gsm back up. Just don’t want to throw €30 a month down the drain for peace of mind.

    Smart Monitoring were cheaper than Phonewatch the last time I checked.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭ Zxthinger


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Smart Monitoring were cheaper than Phonewatch the last time I checked.

    What type of money were ye talking


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,184 ✭✭✭✭ BattleCorp


    Zxthinger wrote: »
    What type of money were ye talking

    €220 including VAT I think. That's what the missus is telling me anyway.

    But you'd be as well phoning them to get a price.

    http://www.smartmonitoring.ie/


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