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TV has a lot of answer for.

  • 28-01-2021 10:04pm
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    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Cass


    We all know TV has ruined non firearm owners' perception of guns. That is a given.

    What annoys me, and the reason for this thread, is what are some of the silliest things you've seen. Doesn't have to be mind blowing, even subtle things only a gun owner would know.

    Watching re-runs of The Wire (season 1 so far) and Omar is pulling a heist. He is carrying a side by side shotgun and just before he enters the drug house, as he is lifting the shotgun, someone decided it would be more theatrical to add a sound effect so stuck in the "Ka-chunk" sound of a pump action being racked.


    One of my personal favorites, from a while back, was discovery channels rendering of a bullet going down a barrel.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,450 ✭✭✭ Vizzy


    My favourite are the "silencer" sounds -Phhttt, Phhttt.

    But on a side note, when I was applying for my .223 and wanting a moderator I gave a reason that I didn't want to disturb livestock when shooting, my RFD invited the Super ( who lives very close to him) to hear the sound of a "silenced" rifle. Job done.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Cass


    Vizzy wrote: »
    ................ my RFD invited the Super ( who lives very close to him) to hear the sound of a "silenced" rifle. Job done.

    That is a rarity and something i'd love to have seen.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭ GooseB


    Magazines in movies/TV hold about 1000 rounds each.
    The gun users can track their target through a scope from a standing position without a single shake, they practically have hydraulically damped limbs.
    Scopes have 1000 X magnification.
    Bullets don't kill the hero - they merely enter and neatly leave their bodies leaving nothing but a bad cut for an injury, the exit wounds are clean, the bullets never expand nor tumble or smash bone.
    If it's a scoped rifle being used - the elevation turret must be incessantly adjusted both up and down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭ civdef


    GooseB wrote: »
    Bullets don't kill the hero - they merely enter and neatly leave their bodies leaving nothing but a bad cut for an injury, the exit wounds are clean, the bullets never expand nor tumble or smash bone.

    This is the main one that annoys me.

    And the first priority in treating TV GSW's is to get the bullet out as quickly as possible :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭ GolfVI


    This is my personal favourite ðŸ˜

    https://youtu.be/tsZ9IvwB5JA


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭ marlin vs


    This lock down is getting to ye, settle.:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,118 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    'Why didn't the police just go for a leg shot?'

    Gets me every time!


  • Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭ JP22


    Excuse my French, most TV today is total utter crap, reality this, reality that, people living their lives on a phone, so called reality stars only known because of their stupidity.

    That's my rant for today.

    Old TV westerns & modern shows - shooting locks off jail cells and strong boxes, magic, opens every time and no ricochet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭ alan0387


    It's perfect aim with a 90 degree pistol hold that gets me.
    Along with super soaker levels of recoil :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭ Birdnuts


    In contrast the current re-run of the A-Team on Gold is doing its bit for shooting sports. Plenty of ammo action but little or no related damage apart from jeeps constantly flying threw the air and landing on their roofs, to be followed by all occupants making a dizzy but relatively intact exit:D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭ minktrapper


    Cass wrote: »
    We all know TV has ruined non firearm owners' perception of guns. That is a given.

    What annoys me, and the reason for this thread, is what are some of the silliest things you've seen. Doesn't have to be mind blowing, even subtle things only a gun owner would know.

    Watching re-runs of The Wire (season 1 so far) and Omar is pulling a heist. He is carrying a side by side shotgun and just before he enters the drug house, as he is lifting the shotgun, someone decided it would be more theatrical to add a sound effect so stuck in the "Ka-chunk" sound of a pump action being racked.


    One of my personal favorites, from a while back, was discovery channels rendering of a bullet going down a barrel.



    That is because on TV guns are being used as weapons not tools.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Cass


    Ok, ok. I think i have a winner.

    Binoculars in every tv show and film:

    6034073


    What actually happens:

    6034073

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭ Grizzly 45


    alan0387 wrote: »
    It's perfect aim with a 90 degree pistol hold that gets me.
    Along with super soaker levels of recoil :D

    The Gangsta stance.Hold up and over your target,, hold your crotch with your free hand, and PUSH da "Yeet cannon" at that target while cussin to make the bullets fly out all the quicker.

    Westerns
    the 60 round revolver 120 round Winchester.The magic saloon tables that break in two when someone lands on one, but become utter kevlar when the hero is hiding behind them in a gunfight. Not to mind the neatly drilled flesh wound,that hardly stains the good guys white shirt after getting hit by a 45cal lump of unjacketed lead.

    2world war films
    Every tool holding their STEN or Schmeisser MP40 by the magazine while firing!! A sure way to jam either gun that would have earned you a bollocking from your Sgt or Unteroffizer depending back then.
    Pulling grenade pins with your teeth! Who needs that tooth enamel?

    Modern-day
    shooting pistol gripped pump shotguns from the hip. Wholly inaccurate in real life.
    Ditto for the hold above the wall, window,etc SMG /assault rifle and just waste ammo randomly spraying bullets at your enemy.

    Utterly bizarre and incomprehensible scope reticles.

    Confucius say."He who says one man cannot change World. Never has eaten bat soup in Wuhan!"



  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭ alan0387


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »

    Utterly bizarre and incomprehensible scope reticles.

    All good points Grizzly, the scopes i forgot about! Older movies the 'snipers' have a basic duplex crosshair, yet the shooter uses no hold over or under for any shot. Magic reticle is bullseye at every range!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,759 Mod ✭✭✭✭ cookimonster


    In a World were the intelligence agencies were gleaning thier Intel off the media and then briefing the media based on this Intel, what do we expect.

    My favourites are muzzel flashes even pre CGI. Purely for theatrical effect as are most on screen explosions, especially the cars that fall off the cliff and nearly always explodes.
    But a common gun one is when the character very purposely racks back the slide on a semi auto pistol and moments later for dramatic effect and usually to drive thier point across thumbs the hammer to the rear. Similar faux pas are made in countless scenes were the character has a bolt/pump/lever action fire arm that they have just chambered a round on screen and then, again for a sense of drama, they recock and chamber a round.

    Although who doesn't like the sound of a pump action being 'shucked', unless your on the buisness end of it. Ahhh I miss the old pump action, guaranteed to raise a few eye brows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭ BattleCorp


    The one that annoys me actually has real life consequences.

    Most baddies when shot in the movies drop down dead instantly. So Joe Public now thinks that one shot is enough to subdue even the most determined armed attacker and that he/she/they (pick you favourite pronoun :D ) couldn't possibly continue to pose a threat after he has been shot once.

    This has given rise to a whole pile of gobsh1tes who think that it's murder when the police force have to shoot someone multiple times to negate a threat.

    As an aside, there's a young wan down near me who keeps posting about the George Nkencho shooting calling it a racist murder and has now gone and got an ACAB tattoo. So now she's permanently marked with something that means All Cops Are Ba5tards. Seriously, what the fcuk goes on inside some people's heads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭ J.R.


    Although who doesn't like the sound of a pump action being 'shucked'.

    Also, when you would pump a pump-action to bring the cartridge up...you'd then place another cartridge in the magazine underneath to ensure it was full and ready for action......never saw that happening!


  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭ freddieot


    In most bank robbery or hostage movies : -

    Police sharpshooters on rooftops, standing near the roof edge (usually has a little wall that you could pop a bipod on) but shouldering the rifle instead and taking aim at the bad guys about 200yards away. Glad I'm not a hostage.


    Still on reflection, could it happen here in real life ? :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭ J.R.


    plenty of it here



  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭ useurowname


    Have ye seen Sniper Special Ops? Steven Segal is amazing !


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  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭ freddieot


    Another thing I hate is the persistent use of the Steyr AUG or the H&K G36 in sci-fi films. Naturally they have bits of plastic attached to them here and there but you can clearly see what the design is around. Great rifles but really is that what Hollywood things we will be still using in the 24th Century in elite military units ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭ Grizzly 45


    J.R. wrote: »
    Also, when you would pump a pump-action to bring the cartridge up...you'd then place another cartridge in the magazine underneath to ensure it was full and ready for action......never saw that happening!

    Not to mind really smart in a covert scene.Let the bad guys know what you have and your general location from racking a round.

    Forgot the other one. LAZERS. Has no one ever tried one of these things in bright daylight? The dot is washed out immediately in bright sunlight,but somehow in the movie universe they still show up perfectly on the bad guys chest or forehead.

    Confucius say."He who says one man cannot change World. Never has eaten bat soup in Wuhan!"



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭ Grizzly 45


    freddieot wrote: »
    Another thing I hate is the persistent use of the Steyr AUG or the H&K G36 in sci-fi films. Naturally they have bits of plastic attached to them here and there but you can clearly see what the design is around. Great rifles but really is that what Hollywood things we will be still using in the 24th Century in elite military units ?

    As well as the SPAS12 shotgun.But it shines in a movie prop gun role because it is absolutely useless and potentially dangerous as a real-life gun.

    But using tarted up guns as some sort of futuristic zapper is nothin new. Albeit utterly annoying
    The Imperial army in Star Wars were toting MG42s and Sterling SMGs.Han Solo's blaster is a Mauser C96, The Mandalorian is packing a Bergmann.

    Aliens Space Marine corps personal weapons were Thompson SMGs in a clamshell housing,along with some modded pump shotguns as grenade launchers. Ditto MG 42s and Cpl Vasquez was using an HK VP0Z as her PDW.

    Confucius say."He who says one man cannot change World. Never has eaten bat soup in Wuhan!"



  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭ alan0387


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Forgot the other one. LAZERS. Has no one ever tried one of these things in bright daylight? The dot is washed out immediately in bright sunlight,but somehow in the movie universe they still show up perfectly on the bad guys chest or forehead.

    In my Airsoft days I used them cause I thought they were cool and functional. Until I actually turned up at some of the games and realised I couldn't see them at all. If you wanted one that bright for daytime, your into laser etching steel plate strengths!

    Admittedly, in some of the forest games and cqb they were mildly functional. But once your out of cover or in sunlight, no chance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭ BattleCorp


    Fire a single shot indoors at a range with no hearing protection and you'll be in pain. If the calibre is big enough, it'll rattle the fillings in your teeth.

    The movies make it look like the bang from a bang stick doesn't affect your hearing.

    John Wick fires billions of rounds indoors and outdoors with seemingly no effects on his hearing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭ Grizzly 45


    And there's Kenau priding himself on being realistic with his gun handling. Only guy, I know who went out and got himself some pro training in gunwork in Hollywood.

    Confucius say."He who says one man cannot change World. Never has eaten bat soup in Wuhan!"



  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭ useurowname


    Much of the reason why you see the same guns time and again is because they are procured for shoot(filming) from the same specialist prop company time and again. I’ve been on a film set and seen the special firearms prop guy literally walk on set hand the actor the weapon, the shot is filmed and before the actor moves the firearms guy is straight back on set and takes the firearm from the actor.
    Useless info, but Bruce Willis pistol in Die Hard was the actual same pistol used by Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon


  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭ useurowname


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    And there's Kenau priding himself on being realistic with his gun handling. Only guy, I know who went out and got himself some pro training in gunwork in Hollywood.

    Depending on what a director is looking for, realistic is not always entertaining.
    Michael Mann went all out in Heat and got his actors trained on a range using live rounds, also he used the actual sound of the blanks firing in the getaway shootout sequence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,370 ✭✭✭✭ Mellor


    Cass wrote: »
    Watching re-runs of The Wire (season 1 so far) and Omar is pulling a heist. He is carrying a side by side shotgun and just before he enters the drug house, as he is lifting the shotgun, someone decided it would be more theatrical to add a sound effect so stuck in the "Ka-chunk" sound of a pump action being racked.
    At least it was a shotgun. I’ve heard the same sound for an unholstered handgun.

    12+ shot revolvers were another peeve of mine.
    Endless supply of magic self reloading magazines.

    A big one that gets me. Is a large caliber firearm, or especially a shotgun. When shot at a target sends then flying off their feet and through the air. With zero reaction force on the shooter.
    Somehow manages to get it wrong twice in two directions.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭ BattleCorp


    Mellor wrote: »
    12+ shot revolvers were another peeve of mine.

    I've shot a 10 shot revolver. It was only a .22 though.
    A big one that gets me. Is a large caliber firearm, or especially a shotgun. When shot at a target sends then flying off their feet and through the air. With zero reaction force on the shooter.

    The scene in Django where Django shoots Leonardo DiCaprio's sister is a ridiculous example of someone going flying after being shot. It is entertaining though, in a funny way.

    "Tell Miss Laura goodbye". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhyLzMdAqQc


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