Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

stefanovich

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Of course there is, but that's not your opinion.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=116523444

Let's not be backtracking now by making personal digs about my logical skills.

There was context at that time.

stefanovich

stefanovich wrote: »

There was context at that time.

Sure, and you just said the it's because of his policies.

So I'll repeat the question, just in case you missed it.

Drone strikes seem like an important thing to you since you keep mentioning them and civilian deaths etc. So tell us, using that independent thought of yours, what Trump policies are so great that it makes you overlook his policy on drone strikes so much that you see him as a good person?

stefanovich

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Sure, and you just said the it's because of his policies.

So I'll repeat the question, just in case you missed it.

Drone strikes seem like an important thing to you since you keep mentioning them and civilian deaths etc. So tell us, using that independent thought of yours, what Trump policies are so great that it makes you overlook his policy on drone strikes so much that you see him as a good person?

He kept the information on the strikes secret. I remember him explaining it was for tactical reasons. Unless I know who was bombed and why it’s hard to judge.

Does keeping military information secret prove anything other than they want to keep it secret?

stefanovich

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Of course there is, but that's not your opinion.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=116523444

Let's not be backtracking now by making personal digs about my logical skills.

It’s just, you call yourself Aristotle the father of formal logic. I presume you are a fan.

mcmoustache

stefanovich wrote: »

A person capable of independent thought.

Afraid not. Just a guy falling for the same talking point that was put out there by liars for the gullible to repeat elsewhere. SOTU addresses don't happen in the first year and nobody serious was expecting one. It was just a stupid talking point doing the rounds on the MAGA sewers of the internet.


That's not independent thought. That's being led by the nose.

NSAman wrote: »

OK, how about the State of the Union address?

Hector Savage wrote: »

Has he done a full press conference yet ? or how about a state of the union ?

stefanovich

stefanovich wrote: »

He kept the information on the strikes secret. I remember him explaining it was for tactical reasons. Unless I know who was bombed and why it’s hard to judge.

The information about Obama's fewer drone strikes in his eight years and Trump's greater number of drone strikes in his first two years are both fully available.

And yet, it is quite clear that Obama's drone strikes bothered you by the label you gave him.

So, what is it even only about Trump's greater number of drone strikes in his first two years that we know the information about that makes you put aside the fact that you disapprove of drone strikes and allows you to see him as a better person?

stefanovich

mcmoustache wrote: »

Afraid not. Just a guy falling for the same talking point that was put out there by liars for the gullible to repeat elsewhere. SOTU addresses don't happen in the first year and nobody serious was expecting one. It was just a stupid talking point doing the rounds on the MAGA sewers of the internet.


That's not independent thought. That's being led by the nose.

What talking point are you referring to?

stefanovich

stefanovich wrote: »

It’s just, you call yourself Aristotle the father of formal logic. I presume you are a fan.

That's right, which is why you incorrectly questioned my logic, and I gave you the evidence to show it.

duploelabs

stefanovich wrote: »

I already explained that it was a brain typo.

Anyways you’ve just done the same thing. I believe he used a sequence of adjectives.

A 'brain typo', what's that now?
I've just done the same thing where?

stefanovich

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's right, which is why you incorrectly questioned my logic, and I gave you the evidence to show it.

No. You said I disagreed that Obama was better than Trump and therefore I must think Trump is better than Obama.

That’s not a logical conclusion.

For one, they could be equal and that’s before you even start picking apart the language.

mcmoustache

stefanovich wrote: »

What talking point are you referring to?

The question about Biden's lack of a State of the Union.


An independent thinker would know that since there aren't SOTU addresses in the first year that the question is a load of bollox.

stefanovich

duploelabs wrote: »

A 'brain typo', what's that now?
I've just done the same thing where?

You said adverbs dude.

stefanovich

stefanovich wrote: »

No. You said I disagreed that Obama was better than Biden and therefore I must think Trump is better than Obama.

That’s not a logical conclusion.

For one, they could be equal and that’s before you even start picking apart the language.

No, you said that Trump is a better person than Obama.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=116523444

Let's not be trying to avoid answering my questions by being illogical. I'll just quote my question again in case you've forgotten about it.

Deleted User wrote: »

The information about Obama's fewer drone strikes in his eight years and Trump's greater number of drone strikes in his first two years are both fully available.

And yet, it is quite clear that Obama's drone strikes bothered you by the label you gave him.

So, what is it even only about Trump's greater number of drone strikes in his first two years that we know the information about that makes you put aside the fact that you disapprove of drone strikes and allows you to see him as a better person?

stefanovich

mcmoustache wrote: »

The question about Biden's lack of a State of the Union.


An independent thinker would know that since there aren't SOTU addresses in the first year that the question is a load of bollox.

I never once mentioned anything got to do with that subject bucko.

stefanovich

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No, you said that Trump is a better person than Obama.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=116523444

Let's not be trying to avoid answering my questions by being illogical. I'll just quote my question again in case you've forgotten about it.

You are quoting me from the past out of context.

I am saying your sentence is illogical.

stefanovich

stefanovich wrote: »

I never once mentioned anything got to do with that subject bucko.

The guy who you proclaimed was an independent thinker did though but he seems to be pushing talking points of a particular cohort of people...

stefanovich

stefanovich wrote: »

You are quoting me from the past out of context.

I am saying your sentence is illogical.

I explained what the context was already, i.e. Trump's policies (since you said we should judge Biden on what he does).

Now I have asked you a question about Trump's policies. Don't go forgetting about it now.

Deleted User wrote: »

The information about Obama's fewer drone strikes in his eight years and Trump's greater number of drone strikes in his first two years are both fully available.

And yet, it is quite clear that Obama's drone strikes bothered you by the label you gave him.

So, what is it even only about Trump's greater number of drone strikes in his first two years that we know the information about that makes you put aside the fact that you disapprove of drone strikes and allows you to see him as a better person?

stefanovich

stefanovich wrote: »

I never once mentioned anything got to do with that subject bucko.

You said NSAman is capable of independent thinking. mcmoustache is showing you that that's not the case.

stefanovich

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The guy who you proclaimed was an independent thinker did though but he seems to be pushing talking points of a particular cohort of people...

I’m confused what cohort, are you taking about me?

stefanovich

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You said NSAman is capable of independent thinking. mcmoustache is showing you that that's not the case.

You can arrive at the same conclusions as other people independently. Suggesting people are just repeated whatever they hear on Twitter because they are stupid or something is totally unfair.

stefanovich

stefanovich wrote: »

You can arrive at the same conclusions as other people independently. Suggesting people are just repeated whatever they hear on Twitter because they are stupid or something is totally unfair.

I think you meant to respond to mcmoustache and not me. The question I asked you is here.

Deleted User wrote: »

The information about Obama's fewer drone strikes in his eight years and Trump's greater number of drone strikes in his first two years are both fully available.

And yet, it is quite clear that Obama's drone strikes bothered you by the label you gave him.

So, what is it even only about Trump's greater number of drone strikes in his first two years that we know the information about that makes you put aside the fact that you disapprove of drone strikes and allows you to see him as a better person?

mcmoustache

stefanovich wrote: »

He kept the information on the strikes secret. I remember him explaining it was for tactical reasons. Unless I know who was bombed and why it’s hard to judge.

Does keeping military information secret prove anything other than they want to keep it secret?

You really believe it was just "tactical reasons". Taking him at his word without any "independent thought" that you clearly don't understand?



I'll help you out here.


Keeping something secret for tactical reasons is something like not publishing information about where drone strikes are going to take place two weeks in advance. The tactical reason there being that the bad guys could just avoid that area at the time of the drone strike.


The historical information about the number of strikes on the other hand does not help the bad guys. That would not provide a tactical advantage because those numbers don't tell you where and when a drone strike took place. Even if they decided to release that information too, it doesn't provide a tactical advantage because time travel hasn't been invented yet.


There are advantages to hiding the numbers but they're not tactical.

mcmoustache

stefanovich wrote: »

You can arrive at the same conclusions as other people independently. Suggesting people are just repeated whatever they hear on Twitter because they are stupid or something is totally unfair.

It would be unfair if they were cpmplaining about real things in the real world but when they're complaining about things that aren't real, things that I already knew to be made up by right-wing talking heads, it shows that no critical thinking was done between gobbling it up and posting it here.

They didn't arrive at that independently. They were drinking from the same cholera-ridden trough of disinformation.

Seanergy

Biden orders 100 million more vaccine shots from Johnson & Johnson
New supply to safeguard against coronavirus variants.

“We’re going to start off making sure Americans are taken care of first, and we’re then going to try to take care of the rest of the world,” the president said in response to a shouted question from a reporter.

Biden, responding to growing criticism about the widening gap with developing nations as the United States and Europe accelerate immunization efforts, said his goal is to take care of the pandemic in the United States, then share vaccine with other countries.

WASHINGTON POST LINK

extra gravy

https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1369758097917542405?s=19

Didn't the former guy say that the market would crash if Biden was elected? Wrong again. Another win for Joe.

stefanovich

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1369758097917542405?s=19

Didn't the former guy say that the market would crash if Biden was elected? Wrong again. Another win for Joe.

People are buying assets because they are worried about inflation. That's what happens when you print piles of money and give it away.

ohnonotgmail

stefanovich wrote: »

People are buying assets because they are worried about inflation. That's what happens when you print piles of money and give it away.

so a rising stock market is a bad thing?

stefanovich

stefanovich wrote: »

People are buying assets because they are worried about inflation. That's what happens when you print piles of money and give it away.

Of course, that is not the opinion you would have if the Dow soared while Trump was president.

And don't forget, you wanted to prove that you're an independent thinker but you seem to have accidentally avoided answering my question about 5 or 6 times.

Professor Moriarty

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so a rising stock market is a bad thing?

Only under Biden. It's proof positive of a booming economy when it's under a GOP president who shall remain nameless.

stefanovich

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so a rising stock market is a bad thing?

I'm just telling you why people are buying assets. The economy is complicated.