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duploelabs · 12-02-2021 05:28PM

stefanovich wrote: »

Afghanistan - Iraq - North Korea - Israel - must I go on?

North Korea upscaled their icbm testing and development during the trump administration, so that's a swing and a miss.
Iraq withdraw was down to the soloumani assassination.
Israel?? I didn't thing they'd troops there

12-02-2021 05:30PM

stefanovich wrote: »

Obama was the king of drone strikes...

How did they actively hide it? A guardian writer's ESP doesn't count as proof.

No, Trump was.

There have been 2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207

He then revoked the policy to publish the number of civilians killed in drone strikes outside of war zones.

Even if Trump somehow did zero drone strikes after this policy was revoked, he still did more drone strikes in his first two years of presidency than Obama did in his two terms as president.

stefanovich · 12-02-2021 05:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Eh, he almost started a war with Iran and destabilised Iraq too via it. Drone strikes didn't go down. It was under his watch that MOAB was used and he armed the Saudis and boasted about doing so to boot. Also outright pulling out troops tends to destabilised regions. So vaguely pretending he's a peacemaker is nonsense.

Oh, he also egged on people who are now up on terror charges over the Capitol Insurrection. So he created both domestic and international instability.

"The capitol insurrection" please, I've watched some of that fictional drama on CNN. What a joke.

Nearly started at war?? So he didn't then... Unlike Obama

duploelabs · 12-02-2021 05:32PM

stefanovich wrote: »

Obama was the king of drone strikes...

How did they actively hide it? A guardian writer's ESP doesn't count as proof.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-47480207

Will the BBC do?

What about politico

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/03/06/trump-civilian-deaths-drone-strikes-1207409

stefanovich · 12-02-2021 05:32PM

duploelabs wrote: »

North Korea upscaled their icbm testing and development during the trump administration, so that's a swing and a miss.
Iraq withdraw was down to the soloumani assassination.
Israel?? I didn't thing they'd troops there

He was actively trying to deescalate.

duploelabs · 12-02-2021 05:33PM

stefanovich wrote: »

He was actively trying to deescalate.

Citation or is that just your opinion man

Tony EH · 12-02-2021 05:34PM

I see some Trump worshippers are still desperately clutching to their false narratives.

How sad.

12-02-2021 05:35PM

stefanovich wrote: »

"The capitol insurrection" please, I've watched some of that fictional drama on CNN. What a joke.

Nearly started at war?? So he didn't then... Unlike Obama

Can you specify which war Obama started? Also multiple people up on terror charges for the Insurrection so the facts are on my side.

stefanovich · 12-02-2021 05:35PM

duploelabs wrote: »

Citation or is that just your opinion man

Did you notice that he went to North Korea? Did you notice he was bring US troops home?

duploelabs · 12-02-2021 05:35PM

Tony EH wrote: »

I see some Trump worshippers are still desperately clutching to their false narratives.

How sad.

Nursing at the teat.

'bitty mummy'

stefanovich · 12-02-2021 05:36PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Can you specify which war Obama started? Also multiple people up on terror charges for the Insurrection so the facts are on my side.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-s-libya-war-was-an-illegal-disaster-but-at-least-he-owned-the-cons/ar-BB1bjUOG

duploelabs · 12-02-2021 05:36PM

stefanovich wrote: »

Did you notice that he went to North Korea? Did you notice he was bring US troops home?

Again, have you citation? Or are you just going to continue sh!t posting your delusional twaddle

stefanovich · 12-02-2021 05:38PM

duploelabs wrote: »

Again, have you citation? Or are you just going to continue sh!t posting your delusional twaddle

Did he or did he not go to North Korea and meet Kim? Do you want a link? Did you miss that?

Igotadose · 12-02-2021 05:38PM

Watching hearing. Seriously, Trump's lawyer thinks they meant Calvary?

duploelabs · 12-02-2021 05:39PM

stefanovich wrote: »

Did he or did he not go to North Korea and meet Kim? Do you want a link? Did you miss that?

That just serve to embolden NK missile program, you do realise that it made the situation worse and testing increased?

stefanovich · 12-02-2021 05:41PM

My expectation is that Biden is going to get a lot more aggressive around the world based on what he has been involved in over the past 40 years. That's my point. I know you all have an irrational hatred for Trump and Obama dropped flowers on Libya etc etc but I'm out. Enjoy gloating for 4 years.

mcmoustache · 12-02-2021 05:41PM

stefanovich wrote: »

Did he or did he not go to North Korea and meet Kim? Do you want a link? Did you miss that?

That only legitimised and benefited Kim. It bought him time and all Trump got out of it was a beautiful letter.

duploelabs · 12-02-2021 05:42PM

stefanovich wrote: »

My expectation is that Biden is going to get a lot more aggressive around the world based on what he has been involved in over the past 40 years. That's my point. I know you all have an irrational hatred for Trump and Obama dropped flowers on Libya etc etc but I'm out. Enjoy gloating for 4 years.

Based on what??

Oh you're out, quell surprise!

Tell me how · 12-02-2021 05:43PM

stefanovich wrote: »

We are talking war here.

Ok, you go ahead with your selective view on his Presidency. Others have pointed out the weakness in that argument already.

Igotadose · 12-02-2021 05:44PM

Wow Trump's lawyer is bad. Deflect, gaslight, lie, dredge up Trump whining points.

stefanovich · 12-02-2021 05:44PM

duploelabs wrote: »

Based on what??

Oh you're out, quell surprise!

You are rabid dogs in here. Not worth the energy.

12-02-2021 05:46PM

stefanovich wrote: »

My expectation is that Biden is going to get a lot more aggressive around the world based on what he has been involved in over the past 40 years. That's my point. I know you all have an irrational hatred for Trump and Obama dropped flowers on Libya etc etc but I'm out. Enjoy gloating for 4 years.

You've based that on nothing. You seemed quite upset about Obama's war efforts, incorrectly labelling him the "king of drone strikes", and yet even though I pointed out to you that Trump did more drone strikes in two years than Obama did in eight years it doesn't seem to have changed your opinion about Obama, Biden or Trump.

duploelabs · 12-02-2021 05:47PM

stefanovich wrote: »

You are rabid dogs in here. Not worth the energy.

Oh, so your horsecr@p got shown up for what it is and now you're all upset.

Thoughts and prayers

12-02-2021 05:50PM

stefanovich wrote: »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-s-libya-war-was-an-illegal-disaster-but-at-least-he-owned-the-cons/ar-BB1bjUOG

The US didn't really start the Libya conflict though. It was a civil war which multiple states got involved in. So it's far from true to say the US started it...

And you've so far made conclusions about the biden administration based on things he hasn't even done. While at the same time ignoring how Trump escalated the Iran situation which had improved under Obama...

stefanovich · 12-02-2021 05:52PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The US didn't really start the Libya conflict though. It was a civil war which multiple states got involved in. So it's far from true to say the US started it...

And you've so far made conclusions about the biden administration based on things he hasn't even done. While at the same time ignoring how Trump escalated the Iran situation which had improved under Obama...

Biden has been in politics for 40 years and was VP. He’s done a lot.
Anyway I’m really out this time.

Tony EH · 12-02-2021 05:56PM

stefanovich wrote: »

My expectation is that Biden is going to get a lot more aggressive around the world based on what he has been involved in over the past 40 years. That's my point. I know you all have an irrational hatred for Trump and Obama dropped flowers on Libya etc etc but I'm out. Enjoy gloating for 4 years.

:pac:

You wander into the thread, try to spread a bit of already debunked propaganda which gets countered (again), and then you run away all indignant.

cj maxx · 12-02-2021 06:00PM

I think what Trump has done by entering politics is to paint a big target on himself. I fully expect a load of dirt , both politically and personal to come out and totally discredit him

alchemist33 · 12-02-2021 06:02PM

stefanovich wrote: »

My expectation is that Biden is going to get a lot more aggressive around the world based on what he has been involved in over the past 40 years. That's my point. I know you all have an irrational hatred for Trump and Obama dropped flowers on Libya etc etc but I'm out. Enjoy gloating for 4 years.

Believe me, hatred for Trump is very rational indeed.

12gauge dave · 12-02-2021 06:02PM

stefanovich wrote: »

You are rabid dogs in here. Not worth the energy.

I enjoyed this post

12-02-2021 06:04PM

cj maxx wrote: »

and totally discredit him

In the eyes of whom?

His critics? He's already held in low esteem amongst that group.

His supporters? If Trump murdered a baby on live TV they'd still back him.

Nothing would change.

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