What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

amandstu

Trump has been found guilty of contempt of court ,I am learning

He is a convicted criminal now ,it seems.

Will that matter to those intending to vote for him?

Not "criminal" enough?

Only technically a criminal?

Overheal

🤔 is he not receiving enough law and order?

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-decries-lack-of-law-and-order-in-new-york-hours-after-leaving-his-criminal-trial-in-new-york/

everlast75

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1785462188024422481

Oh oh - I know this one!!!!

His ass!

astrofool

The one bright side is that Noem being a terrible human has caused other terrible humans to out themselves.

Igotadose

If TFG's incarcerated for contempt, no matter where, he still has to attend his criminal trial daily. So, in the courtroom during the day, locked up nights and weekends, presumably no social media at that time nor visitors, too. Rikers Island is a possibility, heh. No pressers on break, either, he's a criminal in the custody of the court.

duploelabs

Another law firm leaves trump's orbit, I'd assume as they're not being paid

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/30/us/politics/trump-lawyers-delgado.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ok0.dQ0Z.Xpy2xfszQQ63&smid=url-share

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122083021#Comment_122083021

This is whataboutery, the standard defence for this sort of thing.

The thing I don't get is your need to defend literally everything these people do. If you support them, you can still criticise them.

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122084045#Comment_122084045

My impression of many of those who support the more extreme / feral side of right-wing politics is that they are often more invested in their side being “correct” in any argument, regardless of how wrong they may be in a given topic.

“Noem shot a dog, therfore it’s ok.”: Is essentially what they’re saying. It’s nothing to do with the act itself, just that one of their side did it…therefore it’s ok. This is likely why we still have posters on here defending a confirmed rapist. If one of their side did it…it’s ok.

To sort of draw out this idea. Let’s say a MAGA politician (or especially Trump himself) got drunk one day and drove their car into a lake, and then instead admitting their error claimed that they just wanted to “wash their car”. You just know you’d have MAGA-leaning posters here defending their choice to drive a car into a lake. Declaring that “Lake-Driving” is by far the best way to wash a car, and that concerns about destroying the engine (or drowning) are just Woke hysterics. This demonstrably bad move would be declared “OK”, for the simple reason that someone on their side did it.

The Far-Right can never be wrong…..*especially* when they are.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122084247#Comment_122084247

The thing I don't get is your need to defend literally everything these people do. If you support them, you can still criticise them.

That's the thing, people often seem to think you have to align 100% with who you support, particularly when it's in a two-party system like in the US (or UK, I suppose). I think people have less "brand loyalty" when it comes to a PR system.

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122083920#Comment_122083920

It shouldn't be this close, but elements of the race are defying conventional expectation. The Democrats and Biden in particular are focusing strongly on their economic achievements, which are tangible and provable. However, somehow the sentiments about the economy are still in the toilet. Everyone thinks their own economic situation is improved but somehow that the general economy is worse. It is hard to reach out to that. There is something very bizarre going on in this cycle.

Leroy42

It is not bizarre at all. People have been conditioned, for many years, to ignore reality and ignore facts and that feelings are all that matter.

'I feel worse off', or 'I feel oppressed' is taken as being a completely legitimate position. Look at the vast amount of Trump Vox pops, the question of what policy they like, or what Trump achieved or will achieve never gets a proper response. It is emotional. Even protecting the border is emotional. They fear the people crossing the border. Not because of anything factual, just an innate fear.

What is ironic is that is are the very same people who claim all others are woke for having feelings.

So the effect of all of that is that there is very little the democrats, in this case, can say to get that voter. Because emotionally they are tied to Trump. Until voters actually start taking their responsibility seriously, and this is where the democrats are failing badly, then it is very hard to see a situation where it will be anything but close.

No voter, well no sane voter, should be even contemplating voting for Trump. But fear of socialism, or wokeness, or migrants is enough for them to ignore the clear negatives and vote for Trump based on their feelings

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122084950#Comment_122084950

This is all true, but it's a far stronger effect than at any time in the past. One has to wonder about just what drove such a large swathe of people down this cult thought drain. I still maintain it's bizarre!

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122085039#Comment_122085039

I'd argue it began here.

It's not the first time I posted this. It lives forever in my brain...

https://youtu.be/xnhJWusyj4I?si=bkvkkD5kMLEI1_MJ

Podge_irl

Newt Gingrich was the start of a lot of dreadful precedents in US politics…

Detritus70

It's totally fcuked up, it's not normal.

We have the democrats trying to be sane, pointing towards their achievements and trying to run a somewhat decent campaign.

On the other hand we have the republicans, literally foaming at the mouth, speaking in tongues, threatening to arrest and deport ELEVEN MILLION PEOPLE (FFS), telling woman they'll literally be on watch if they're pregnant and announcing plans to destroy democracy.

If you're now saying "well, I don't think the Dems are running a good enough campaign no wonder people are voting for Trump", DAFUQ IS WRONG WITH YOU?! Have you paid fcuking attention since 2016? Is there some kind of mass psychosis in the US? Is it alien mind control rays?

Because I refuse ANY rational explanation of this effed up situation. Imagine you are offered a lift. One driver is neat, tidy, boring and drives a diesel Mercedes. The other is an axe murderer.

Maybe the yanks have been living in the nuthouse for so long, they don't see the craziness anymore. I don't care for "well, you know it's complicated and it's not all black and white", dude, take a step back and take a look at yourself. Because you may be on shrooms.

TinyMuffin

I think some republicans should be taken to the gravel pit.

randd1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122085341#Comment_122085341

It's a mixture of decades of drug abuse, dropping educational standards, the celebration of the moron in TV/films, rampant religious craziness, and fetishization of Americana.

I think as well that America had a sense of self from WW2 up until the end of the Cold War. Once they won that, they had no clue what to stand for, and as a country have been drifting along ever since, fighting amongst itself. 9/11 galvanised them together for a while, but Trumpism has ripped it apart and sped up the decline.

I don't know if it'll be a Democrat or a Republican that fires the first shot, but I do know it's the Republicans pushing for another Civil War, this time through Trump trying to destroy democracy in the US. Or perhaps, the finishing of the first one, which the Confederates don't seem to think ever ended.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122085482#Comment_122085482

the worst part about this all is it has ruined one of my favourite Wu Tang Clan's songs for me 😔

/s

Stanley 1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122085722#Comment_122085722

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/30/trump-second-term-abortion-immigration

The future according to Trump for everybody but his chosen ones will be bleak, it may take a few Generals to take him out if he wins in Nov.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1785668072637886814

I generated this meme as it popped into my head...

Overheal

Trump took… every position on Israel this morning?

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/trump-attacks-jewish-politicians-says-you-have-to-stop-israels-war-on-terrorists-in-bonkers-fox-hit/

EltonJohn69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122085970#Comment_122085970

ODB had plans to run for the senate as a Republican candidate, many felt he would have been hugely successful.

Overheal

Georgian Carbuncle declares after facing much ridicule that yes she’s still definitely going to be filing the vacate motion she threatened to weeks ago then had no follow through with

https://www.mediaite.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-announces-she-will-call-vote-to-oust-mike-johnson-crowns-him-with-make-ukraine-great-again-hat/

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122086097#Comment_122086097

Trump doesn't have "positions" , he has "What will make them love me the most today?"

He will flip-flop in the same sentence if he thinks it will get him more positive feedback in that moment.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122084045#Comment_122084045

No I don't have autism or Asperger's though I agree there's no shame in having such a condition.

I can 'comprehend' disagreement, however I just think differently. Anyway discussion has run its course.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122086140#Comment_122086140

I just don't understand. When did it become acceptable for US Republicans to take Russia's side on things?

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122086467#Comment_122086467

Around the time that "owning the libs" became their primary purpose in life.

lostboy75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122086454#Comment_122086454

If she could control the pup to bring it to the quarry, she could just as easily have brought it to a vet. So yes, end of conversation.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122086503#Comment_122086503

I disagree. Stop replying to me.

AMKC

So in town today and came across this chap lol,