Looking to sell my M235i, what's it worth?

cojomo2

Hi folks

Looking to stick this up for sale but with no others up for sale its hard to value it/settle on an asking price.

Details are
Black with red heated leather seats
Upgraded widescreen satnav system
Front and rear parking sensors
Low KMs , about 54kms still on OE tyres (which need replacing soon)
Full recorded BMW service history
Just passed NCT.
Excellent condition inside and out bar a small mark on the bonnet.

Any ideas what to price this at?

Cheers

Zurbaran

I wouldn’t know what it’s worth either way but what’s the year?

cojomo2

Zurbaran wrote: »

I wouldn’t know what it’s worth either way but what’s the year?

Ha, yeah that would certainly help! 142, thanks!

bazz26

Here is a 2015 being sold by a dealer asking 44k:

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2652722&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D10%26o%5B%5D%3D2422%26nn%3D22%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

Not sure if that asking price is dreamer territory or not given that there are a couple of 2018 M2s for sale @ between 55k and 58k also.

cojomo2

bazz26 wrote: »

Here is a 2015 being sold by a dealer asking 44k:

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2652722&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D10%26o%5B%5D%3D2422%26nn%3D22%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

Not sure if that asking price is dreamer territory or not given that there are a couple of 2018 M2s for sale @ between 55k and 58k also.

Dreamer territory i would think! Thanks

Brasso

There was a white M240i up on DoneDeal until maybe last month. It was a private sale and asking only €30,000 which I thought was cheap enough, can't remember the year but it could have been a 152.

cojomo2

Brasso wrote: »

There was a white M240i up on DoneDeal until maybe last month. It was a private sale and asking only €30,000 which I thought was cheap enough, can't remember the year but it could have been a 152.

Thanks for that, that's a year newer than mine, so something around the 25k mark sound fair?

Zurbaran

I seem there’s a 2015 m228i going for 26k. Obviously has less power, 2 less cylinders and more miles but the price difference between that and the one bazz posted is huge.

TheBoyConor

20-25k.

There is not much demand for high performance cars like these. When you factor in the significantly higher tax, insurance and fuel costs, the potential market you are selling to is very very small. Hence, the absolutely stupendous depreciation on them.

Personally, I think someone buying one of these needs to have more money than they know what to do with, or if they borrow for it then they need their head examined. One of the most profligate types of purchase I can think of.

Brasso

cojomo2 wrote: »

Thanks for that, that's a year newer than mine, so something around the 25k mark sound fair?

I'm just remembering there was a m135i up as well but I've checked DoneDeal and it's gone as well. Again I can't remember the year, maybe 2013 but it was asking €20k so I think €25k sounds around right for yours. With that said though Brexit is making it a lot harder to source cars like yours which puts you at a bit of an advantage.

CoBo55

TheBoyConor wrote: »

20-25k.

There is not much demand for high performance cars like these. When you factor in the significantly higher tax, insurance and fuel costs, the potential market you are selling to is very very small. Hence, the absolutely stupendous depreciation on them.

Personally, I think someone buying one of these needs to have more money than they know what to do with, or if they borrow for it then they need their head examined. One of the most profligate types of purchase I can think of.

Jeez, you don't spare a man's feelings but I'm inclined to agree with you, a car like that is a car for life really.

Eoinbmw

With UK imports getting the chop you might well have a very hard got car and trust me there are plenty of potential buyer out there but just after Christmas in a pandemic lockdown it might not be the best time to advertise!:p

bazz26

TheBoyConor wrote: »

20-25k.

There is not much demand for high performance cars like these. When you factor in the significantly higher tax, insurance and fuel costs, the potential market you are selling to is very very small. Hence, the absolutely stupendous depreciation on them.

Personally, I think someone buying one of these needs to have more money than they know what to do with, or if they borrow for it then they need their head examined. One of the most profligate types of purchase I can think of.

Someone in the market for this type of car knows exactly what's involved in running them, not someone also looking at a 220d.

ordinaryfella

There's defiantly a market there for these cars, with Brexit the door has been shut on pretty much anything fun. From my saved dd ads I see:

2013 135i for 17500
2016 240i for 30000

No idea what they sold for. 24-25 sounds about right?

CoBo55

bazz26 wrote: »

Someone in the market for this type of car knows exactly what's involved in running them, not someone also looking at a 220d.

Maybe so, but it's all about price and not getting scammed and tormented to death with tyre kickers etc etc. Private selling high value cars is extremely difficult.

RobAMerc

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Personally, I think someone buying one of these needs to have more money than they know what to do with, or if they borrow for it then they need their head examined. One of the most profligate types of purchase I can think of.

spoken like a true petrolhead !

blindside88

Might be worth contacting R kings to see if they’d be interested. Seems like the kind of thing they’d be interested in and they happily pay top dollar.

ordinaryfella

If anything it seems covid has improved the sales of these types of cars. More disposable income as there's nothing to do and a sense of enjoying life while you can. Just to clarify these where the asking prices and they are both marked as sold on dd. The 135 was only up for a few days.

2013 135i for 17500
2016 240i for 30000

maddness

TheBoyConor wrote: »

20-25k.

There is not much demand for high performance cars like these. When you factor in the significantly higher tax, insurance and fuel costs, the potential market you are selling to is very very small. Hence, the absolutely stupendous depreciation on them.

Personally, I think someone buying one of these needs to have more money than they know what to do with, or if they borrow for it then they need their head examined. One of the most profligate types of purchase I can think of.

Nonsense. The six cylinder 1/2 series cars have a great following and are always sought after and even more so now as it’s not viable to bring one in from the UK.
I’d imagine about 23-25 grand on a private sale would be realistic enough.
Best of luck with the sale.

chalky_ie

25 at the most, I would have it up for 25 and hope you get close to it, but be prepared for the possibility of no decent offers for a while. If you really need to sell it fast, I'd put it up for 22.

MetzgerMeister

bazz26 wrote: »

Here is a 2015 being sold by a dealer asking 44k:

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2652722&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D10%26o%5B%5D%3D2422%26nn%3D22%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

Not sure if that asking price is dreamer territory or not given that there are a couple of 2018 M2s for sale @ between 55k and 58k also.

That's the same price as a similar age and mileage M4. Total and utter acid-trip dreamer.

cojomo2

conor-w wrote: »

25 at the most, I would have it up for 25 and hope you get close to it, but be prepared for the possibility of no decent offers for a while. If you really need to sell it fast, I'd put it up for 22.

Thanks..and thanks to everyone for the input.

Unfortunately I do need to sell it fairly soon (to help finance a house purchase) so may have to look at listing for about 23k. Hopefully that will help sell it fairly soon..although then there's covid to contend with..

Track9

With a 3.000 cc engine, this is a BIG DAWG. I think it way overpowered, & wondering what use it might have with Speed Limits, etc. Might be handy as a
"Getaway Car " or on the Autobahn in Germany. Ireland uses, I'm not so sure ..
It would want to c ome at the Right Price as in 30 something at most ..

Wailin

bazz26 wrote: »

Here is a 2015 being sold by a dealer asking 44k:

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2652722&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D10%26o%5B%5D%3D2422%26nn%3D22%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

Not sure if that asking price is dreamer territory or not given that there are a couple of 2018 M2s for sale @ between 55k and 58k also.

Considering I imported a 2018 540i for a few grand less than that, that is bonkers asking price. That is about 16-18k overpriced.

chalky_ie

Track9 wrote: »

With a 3.000 cc engine, this is a BIG DAWG. I think it way overpowered, & wondering what use it might have with Speed Limits, etc. Might be handy as a
"Getaway Car " or on the Autobahn in Germany. Ireland uses, I'm not so sure ..
It would want to c ome at the Right Price as in 30 something at most ..

Brilliant post.

dar83

Why has this topic attracted so many non car enthusiasts?!? Bizarre.

To the OP, I'd say by looking around and with what you have, you're pretty well spot on with the pricing you've mentioned for a decently speedy sale. Also, 54k KM and still on the OE rubber? How in the hell did you manage that!

Idbatterim

whats the tax on it out of interest? saw a 750 earlier with the E2350 rate. For a 750, not a bloody hope!

Better waiting to sell the car before buying another one, often people wouldnt have bought the different car, if they knew what they are actually going to achieve for the one they are looking to sell...

cojomo2

Idbatterim wrote: »

whats the tax on it out of interest? saw a 750 earlier with the E2350 rate. For a 750, not a bloody hope!

Better waiting to sell the car before buying another one, often people wouldnt have bought the different car, if they knew what they are actually going to achieve for the one they are looking to sell...

Tax is 750 a year..not bad at all considering..

TheBoyConor

Didn't realise it was a 3.0l . Rather than increase the value, an engine that size will reduce the value and make it harder to sell.
Insurance costs on that will be crazy (if you can get a quote at all even) along with tax, and fuel costs.
The market for this sort of car is tiny. Selling privately will be torture and very slow.
Add in the Covid and you'll be lucky to shift it at all. Unless you price it at €15k-€19k range, I can't see there being much uptake in this climate.

Could you look at selling to a dealer or some sort of place specialising in high performance cars? Obviously you'll take a hit on what you can get, perhaps €12-15k, but at least you'll be rid of it and have something back. I wonder would it make any sense to break it? Engines for these could go for big money, even the wheels would fetch a fair bit from someone who is looking for replacements. Bodywork, interior trim and electronics too - panels and internal equipment from a dealer would be extortionate so second hand bodywork, trim and electronic components might be in demand in the sort of circles who would have these cars. Could you advertise in one of the car magazines?

Wildly Boaring

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Didn't realise it was a 3.0l . Rather than increase the value, an engine that size will reduce the value and make it harder to sell.
Insurance costs on that will be crazy (if you can get a quote at all even) along with tax, and fuel costs.
The market for this sort of car is tiny. Selling privately will be torture and very slow.
Add in the Covid and you'll be lucky to shift it at all. Unless you price it at €15k-€19k range, I can't see there being much uptake in this climate.

Could you look at selling to a dealer or some sort of place specialising in high performance cars? Obviously you'll take a hit on what you can get, perhaps €12-15k, but at least you'll be rid of it and have something back.

If you don't know.
Why post?
You literally didn't know the engine in it.
Why guess what's it's worth?

maddness

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Didn't realise it was a 3.0l . Rather than increase the value, an engine that size will reduce the value and make it harder to sell.
Insurance costs on that will be crazy (if you can get a quote at all even) along with tax, and fuel costs.
The market for this sort of car is tiny. Selling privately will be torture and very slow.
Add in the Covid and you'll be lucky to shift it at all. Unless you price it at €15k-€19k range, I can't see there being much uptake in this climate.

Could you look at selling to a dealer or some sort of place specialising in high performance cars? Obviously you'll take a hit on what you can get, perhaps €12-15k, but at least you'll be rid of it and have something back. I wonder would it make any sense to break it? Engines for these could go for big money, even the wheels would fetch a fair bit from someone who is looking for replacements. Bodywork, interior trim and electronics too - panels and internal equipment from a dealer would be extortionate so second hand bodywork, trim and electronic components might be in demand in the sort of circles who would have these cars. Could you advertise in one of the car magazines?

Sweet Jesus

Eoinbmw

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

If you don't know.
Why post?
You literally didn't know the engine in it.
Why guess what's it's worth?

And they are a cheap car to insure for the performance on offer!

User1998

TheBoyConor wrote: »

I wonder would it make any sense to break it?

Seriously

cojomo2

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Didn't realise it was a 3.0l . Rather than increase the value, an engine that size will reduce the value and make it harder to sell.
Insurance costs on that will be crazy (if you can get a quote at all even) along with tax, and fuel costs.
The market for this sort of car is tiny. Selling privately will be torture and very slow.
Add in the Covid and you'll be lucky to shift it at all. Unless you price it at €15k-€19k range, I can't see there being much uptake in this climate.

Could you look at selling to a dealer or some sort of place specialising in high performance cars? Obviously you'll take a hit on what you can get, perhaps €12-15k, but at least you'll be rid of it and have something back. I wonder would it make any sense to break it? Engines for these could go for big money, even the wheels would fetch a fair bit from someone who is looking for replacements. Bodywork, interior trim and electronics too - panels and internal equipment from a dealer would be extortionate so second hand bodywork, trim and electronic components might be in demand in the sort of circles who would have these cars. Could you advertise in one of the car magazines?

Same ballpark tax as a mk5 gti , better fuel consumption, and and extra 2 cylinders and 130 odd bhp extra.
No offence but I don't think you know what you are talking about here. But thanks for offering your view (I did ask!).

Buddy Bubs

Greenpeace have arrived and derail the thread. One of them kindly told OP his car was useless because it had big engine and won't sell then promptly gave it a very high valuation of 30k.

CathalC2011

This thread is ridiculous. The market for those cars in ireland is well and truly alive, don't listen to the nonsense here.

I've been keeping an eye on the m235i/m240i listings the last while, and I'd say you're looking at about 25k. There was a black m235i being sold in drumcondra recently for about that, and another white m235i for about the same.

Theres a Seat dealer in Sandyford trying to sell an m240i for for close to 50k, now THAT is dreaming. I actually met one of the salesmen there - lovely guy, a real petrolhead himself. But whoever set that price clearly doesn't want to sell the car.

Eoinbmw

I think we are being Trolled...

enricoh

maddness wrote: »

Sweet Jesus

Not a notion and still comes back with an even more bananas post- God bless the internet!

Best laugh I got all day- which is a bit grim, but it's a Monday in lockdown January so it'll have to do!

Aim high op, brexit has got rid of your competition. A mate of mine spent 27k on a mickey mouse log cabin last week, I know which I'd prefer!

bazz26

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Didn't realise it was a 3.0l . Rather than increase the value, an engine that size will reduce the value and make it harder to sell.
Insurance costs on that will be crazy (if you can get a quote at all even) along with tax, and fuel costs.
The market for this sort of car is tiny. Selling privately will be torture and very slow.
Add in the Covid and you'll be lucky to shift it at all. Unless you price it at €15k-€19k range, I can't see there being much uptake in this climate.

Could you look at selling to a dealer or some sort of place specialising in high performance cars? Obviously you'll take a hit on what you can get, perhaps €12-15k, but at least you'll be rid of it and have something back. I wonder would it make any sense to break it? Engines for these could go for big money, even the wheels would fetch a fair bit from someone who is looking for replacements. Bodywork, interior trim and electronics too - panels and internal equipment from a dealer would be extortionate so second hand bodywork, trim and electronic components might be in demand in the sort of circles who would have these cars. Could you advertise in one of the car magazines?

Marcusm

cojomo2 wrote: »

Tax is 750 a year..not bad at all considering..

That’s very good given engine size and performance. I have a 1.6L Mini in the same tax bracket so I think you have hit a sweet spot here tax should not be a disincentive. I love the look of the 2 series personally and I hope you get it to a good home where you are both happy with the price. Change the tyres though, can’t be any meaningful thread left at that mileage.

cojomo2

Marcusm wrote: »

That’s very good given engine size and performance. I have a 1.6L Mini in the same tax bracket so I think you have hit a sweet spot here tax should not be a disincentive. I love the look of the 2 series personally and I hope you get it to a good home where you are both happy with the price. Change the tyres though, can’t be any meaningful thread left at that mileage.

Thanks..yeah I was going to but then figured the new buyer might be picky about what tyres they want..its not really being drivin at the moment apart from a trip to tesco. .I could just replace them with the same again I suppose.

Casati

I think it’s a bad time to sell this car as it hasn’t come home how expensive cars like this will be to import going forward and you’d be danger of letting it go for less than it will be worth in 3 or 4 months

MetzgerMeister

MOD: TheBoyConor - Please don't post in this thread again.

Idbatterim

cojomo2 wrote: »

Tax is 750 a year..not bad at all considering..

No that's fine, next band up is e1250 and then 2400 I think. Its half of what it would have been on old system... loads of 3000cc though are nearly a fifth of what they would have been on old system ...

hooch-85

CathalC2011 wrote: »

This thread is ridiculous. The market for those cars in ireland is well and truly alive, don't listen to the nonsense here.

I've been keeping an eye on the m235i/m240i listings the last while, and I'd say you're looking at about 25k. There was a black m235i being sold in drumcondra recently for about that, and another white m235i for about the same.

Theres a Seat dealer in Sandyford trying to sell an m240i for for close to 50k, now THAT is dreaming. I actually met one of the salesmen there - lovely guy, a real petrolhead himself. But whoever set that price clearly doesn't want to sell the car.

You're right. Golf Rs/135s/140s/Cupras all those around the 300 bhp cheapish tax and insurance bracket are shifting, quickly too. More people working from home and are getting rid of the diesel commuters for something a bit more fun as yolo and all that. Brexit means it'll be much more expensive to import these cars now too so what's here will hold value well.

Arguably the BMW is a bit more niche being RWD but OP you will find a buyer. I think I've seen your car on Backroads.ie looks immaculate. I think €24-25k is a fair price but as said if you want to shift it quickly maybe stick it up for €23k. That particular car in the Seat dealership was sold privately over a year ago for less than €30k.

As for TheBoyConor's advice, we'll say no more.

wallpapers123

If you scroll all the way down on the homepage on donedeal, you will see a Car Valuation tool, not accurate by any means, but you should at least get a ballpark figure to look at.

maddness

wallpapers123 wrote: »

If you scroll all the way down on the homepage on donedeal, you will see a Car Valuation tool, not accurate by any means, but you should at least get a ballpark figure to look at.

If it’s not accurate by any means why would you use it?

wallpapers123

maddness wrote: »

If it’s not accurate by any means why would you use it?

Didn't know OP was looking for a figure accurate to the last digit.:pac:

bazz26

All it does is give you the average price based on the asking price of the same model on DD, so all it takes is one dreamer to push the average asking price up so it's nowhere near a true valuation to be honest. Asking prices aren't selling prices either.

cojomo2

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I'm going with €22950 in the hope it will move fairly fast.

maddness

wallpapers123 wrote: »

If you scroll all the way down on the homepage on donedeal, you will see a Car Valuation tool, not accurate by any means, but you should at least get a ballpark figure to look at.

I tried that with my car and it told me it’s 10 grand more than I paid for it!