Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

Str8outtaWuhan

TheValeyard wrote: »

I'd agree here.

Thus setting up for another PG next year

downthemiddle

Deleted User wrote: »

Imagine following the advice of the experts. How ridiculous a concept

Nice to see Norma finally listening to them.

SusanC10

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/q-a-what-can-we-expect-in-tomorrow-s-revised-living-with-covid-plan-1.4492014

This Article has J1, S1 and LC on March 1st.

"The very near term is the most clear: junior and senior infants look set to reopen on March 1st, alongside Leaving Cert students. The way forward for this has been cleared by advice from the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet), and there is likely to be more detail on a staggered return to education during March."

iamwhoiam

SusanC10 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/q-a-what-can-we-expect-in-tomorrow-s-revised-living-with-covid-plan-1.4492014

This Article has J1, S1 and LC on March 1st.

"The very near term is the most clear: junior and senior infants look set to reopen on March 1st, alongside Leaving Cert students. The way forward for this has been cleared by advice from the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet), and there is likely to be more detail on a staggered return to education during March."

Different articles saying different things
Emma O Kelly definitely said J and S I
And 1st and 2nd class plus Leaving cert



https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0222/1198595-education/



ey include the extension of provisions which allow for teachers and other school workers who are pregnant or in a high-risk health category to remain working from home for the time being.

All this helps clear the path for the reopening of schools from 1 March, beginning with Leaving Certificate students at second level, and with the four most junior years at primary level.

the corpo

Examiner says

It is widely expected that Cabinet will approve the proposal that Leaving Cert students, along with primary school pupils in junior and senior infants plus those in first and second class, will return to school on March 1.

The partial re-opening of schools will, however, mean that older primary school children and non-exam year pupils at second level will remain home until after Easter.

According to Government sources, the month of March, under the plan, will be focused on getting those small children in childcare back as well.
It is also clear that college students are unlikely in the main to be back on campus before September.

Sephiroth_dude

JimCore wrote: »

Theres currently a number of children fighting for their lives due to covid in Irish hospitals. Many of whom have an inflammatory response that doctors cant explain. Id say theres lots of drama for those families!

The great teacher bluff! Youre a total keyboard warrior with your pub talk ****e

If you can't post in a civil manner, don't post in here at all.

penny piper

CruelSummer wrote: »

You’ve just contradicted yourself in your reply as Ryan did earlier. If schools were to reopen on a ‘county by county’ basis - Dublin schools would not have reopened at all this year, and other areas like in border counties. So a population of 1million plus in Dublin City alone would not have had any in person education whatsoever. It’s a disgraceful suggestion.
While schools were opened in the last level 5, if you’d read my post I mentioned there are posters here who kept campaigning incessantly for them to be closed during this time. Joining Facebook groups, scaremongering about cases. It’s wrong.

He did actually say it wasn't safe enough yet for dublin schools to open as of yet with numbers not coming down as fast as other counties (he mentioned cork/kerry). He also said we should be doing what we can to mitigate transmission in schools/that we hadn't seen enough of this. more advice on ventilation/more face mask wearing and that the dept of education could be doing much more ...He also said schools were only safe when the community around them are safe..
It wasn't a disgraceful suggestion at all....cases high ...schools not safe..I'm not in the slightest against schools re-opening quite the opposite...I live in co.leitrim where we have been lucky to have few cases of coronavirus..so I see no reason for schools to be closed here...but Dublin is a different situation...and remote education should be applied until atleast numbers are down further or more vaccinations are carried out...my opinion

Millem

oopsies wrote: »

Anyone know when they might bring back ECCE kids?

8th March?

wirelessdude01

the corpo wrote: »

Examiner says

Ohh sweet baby Jesus. I won't be back in front of my class until Easter so if that is correct. I had hoped worst case scenario that it would be the 22nd and get back for a week to get them all settled back into physical school and have them ready for the big push for the final two months.

downthemiddle

downthemiddle wrote: »

Nice to see Norma finally listening to them.

Just like on January 5th when guidance to close them was issued

Stateofyou

Deleted User wrote: »

Imagine following the advice of the experts. How ridiculous a concept

Right? Norma Foley comes to mind...

hesaidshesaid

SusanC10 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/q-a-what-can-we-expect-in-tomorrow-s-revised-living-with-covid-plan-1.4492014

This Article has J1, S1 and LC on March 1st.

"The very near term is the most clear: junior and senior infants look set to reopen on March 1st, alongside Leaving Cert students. The way forward for this has been cleared by advice from the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet), and there is likely to be more detail on a staggered return to education during March."

Article has since been updated:

So what will we learn?
The very near term is the most clear: at primary level junior and senior infants as well as first and second class look set to return on March 1st, alongside Leaving Cert students at second level. The way forward for this has been cleared by advice from the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet), and there is likely to be more detail on a staggered return to education during March.

hesaidshesaid

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Ohh sweet baby Jesus. I won't be back in front of my class until Easter so if that is correct. I had hoped worst case scenario that it would be the 22nd and get back for a week to get them all settled back into physical school and have them ready for the big push for the final two months.

After Easter would be very disappointing for senior primary. I can't see it being that long.

Locotastic

hesaidshesaid wrote: »

After Easter would be very disappointing for senior primary. I can't see it being that long.

There's no way they'll have a 6 week gap between phases going back, that's madness. I'd think it will be 2 weeks tops between.

The Easter holidays should be moved to now anyway, absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary to have 2 weeks holidays when trying to get schools back open after kids haven't set foot in them for 10 weeks.

Why don't they take them now?

Warbeastrior

I wonder do the people calling for the schools to be opened again realise that it will most likely mean more weeks/months of level 5 restrictions.

Teacher2020

Locotastic wrote: »

There's no way they'll have a 6 week gap between phases going back, that's madness. I'd think it will be 2 weeks tops between.

The Easter holidays should be moved to now anyway, absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary to have 2 weeks holidays when trying to get schools back open after kids haven't set foot in them for 10 weeks.

Why don't they take them now?

I think it's actually a great time to take them. There will be 2 weeks where they can evaluate how the opening of schools impacted on the figures.

wirelessdude01

Locotastic wrote: »

There's no way they'll have a 6 week gap between phases going back, that's madness. I'd think it will be 2 weeks tops between.

The Easter holidays should be moved to now anyway, absolutely ridiculous and unnecessary to have 2 weeks holidays when trying to get schools back open after kids haven't set foot in them for 10 weeks.

Why don't they take them now?

Email Norma and ask her, us plebs have zero say in any of the standardised holidays.

Whatisthisnow

Warbeastrior wrote: »

I wonder do the people calling for the schools to be opened again realise that it will most likely mean more weeks/months of level 5 restrictions.

My 4 year old as much as I would love him too will not be attending school until numbers are well down

Lisha

hesaidshesaid wrote: »

After Easter would be very disappointing for senior primary. I can't see it being that long.

To be honest I’d prefer if mine didn’t attend school until after Easter. It can only mean the numbers will be lower.

Warbeastrior

Whatisthisnow wrote:

My 4 year old as much as I would love him too will not be attending school until numbers are well down

Imo, a wise decision.

Sammy2012

Warbeastrior wrote: »

Imo, a wise decision.

Id be quite happy to keep mine at home until after Easter at this point but I must go back to work too so off we will go and hope for the best!

khalessi

Deleted User wrote: »

Just like on January 5th when guidance to close them was issued

Interesting she went on a solo run and had to be reigned in by An Taoiseach

khalessi

I wonder do the Dept realise for some schools bring back Jnr Snr 1st 2nd is the entire school?

km79

There is obviously a lot of toing and froing at the cabinet meeting

Sammy2012

khalessi wrote: »

I wonder do the Dept realise for some schools bring back Jnr Snr 1st 2nd is the entire school?

You would hardly expect the department to know that!?

CruelSummer

penny piper wrote: »

He did actually say it wasn't safe enough yet for dublin schools to open as of yet with numbers not coming down as fast as other counties (he mentioned cork/kerry). He also said we should be doing what we can to mitigate transmission in schools/that we hadn't seen enough of this. more advice on ventilation/more face mask wearing and that the dept of education could be doing much more ...He also said schools were only safe when the community around them are safe..
It wasn't a disgraceful suggestion at all....cases high ...schools not safe..I'm not in the slightest against schools re-opening quite the opposite...I live in co.leitrim where we have been lucky to have few cases of coronavirus..so I see no reason for schools to be closed here...but Dublin is a different situation...and remote education should be applied until atleast numbers are down further or more vaccinations are carried out...my opinion

So your opinion is that schools in Dublin shouldn’t have reopened at all since September because that is what Tomás Ryan’s plan entails. Meanwhile because you live in Leitrim you can carry on regardless with face to face education. No concern for the consequences of such a move?

His Zero Covid group a poster referenced earlier had some of his expert colleagues on Matt Cooper this evening, suggesting vaccines are useless, this will never end and more hysterical ramblings with zero evidence.
Ryan has made a number of false claims on RTÉ previously and not been pulled up once. I don’t think he should be given the air time, credibility or quite frankly respect he’s been shown by some after his behaviour over the past 12 months. He’s a neuroscientist not an expert in the field.

wirelessdude01

km79 wrote: »

There is obviously a lot of toing and froing at the cabinet meeting

Thinking the same seeing as no journalists have the up to date leaks.

Neagra

the teachers here posted here they missed school and would return when nphet decided it was safe to return, we were told listen to the scientists well now that moment is here for some of the classes and guess what , it turns out now that nphet are now not to be listened to.
now we should listen to the teachers on when it is safe to return.
its laughable and shows up these posters for being the dishonest spoofers that they are
looks like my 2 are back monday which is great.
i have a feeling my juniors infants teacher might not show up - she strikes me as someone who does not really like teaching children, her remote schooling was non existent.
i have an email already prepared for the principal in case that teacher is a no show and it is saucy enough

wirelessdude01

Neagra wrote: »

the teachers here posted here they missed school and would return when nphet decided it was safe to return, we were told listen to the scientists well now that moment is here for some of the classes and guess what , it turns out now that nphet are now not to be listened to.
now we should listen to the teachers on when it is safe to return.
its laughable and shows up these posters for being the dishonest spoofers that they are
looks like my 2 are back monday which is great.
i have a feeling my juniors infants teacher might not show up - she strikes me as someone who does not really like teaching children, her remote schooling was non existent.
i have an email already prepared for the principal in case that teacher is a no show and it is saucy enough

What business it is of yours if the teacher isn't in?

downthemiddle

Neagra wrote: »

the teachers here posted here they missed school and would return when nphet decided it was safe to return, we were told listen to the scientists well now that moment is here for some of the classes and guess what , it turns out now that nphet are now not to be listened to.
now we should listen to the teachers on when it is safe to return.
its laughable and shows up these posters for being the dishonest spoofers that they are
looks like my 2 are back monday which is great.
i have a feeling my juniors infants teacher might not show up - she strikes me as someone who does not really like teaching children, her remote schooling was non existent.
i have an email already prepared for the principal in case that teacher is a no show and it is saucy enough

Teachers will be guided by NPHET.
You are guided by your feelings.