Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

mirrorwall14

Scoondal wrote: »

Yes. I have not been contacted by my son's school yet.
I would like an e mail that says :
"The 1 February re-opening of our school has been postponed indefinitely".
Is clear communication from schools not possible ?

That would be great. But the schools haven’t officially been told they aren’t opening on Monday

km79

Scoondal wrote: »

Yes. I have not been contacted by my son's school yet.
I would like an e mail that says :
"The 1 February re-opening of our school has been postponed indefinitely".
Is clear communication from schools not possible ?

You replied to a post from a teacher complaining that the Department of Education have NOT TOLD schools about the reopening date with this ? I would have thought it was obvious why the school has not been able to do so ......

Scoondal

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

That would be great. But the schools haven’t officially been told they aren’t opening on Monday

Really ?
I shouldn't be surprised, perhaps.
Wow !

mirrorwall14

Scoondal wrote: »

Really ?
I shouldn't be surprised, perhaps.
Wow !

This is relatively normal for the Department. Teachers have not formed their poor opinion of their communication over night. It has been death by a thousand cuts over the years.

One of the worst of which has been the release of crucial information for schools on Friday evenings sometimes even after work hours. Including documents that have needed almost immediate implementation

We are talking about a department who took SIX WEEKS to issue any guidance about online learning after shutting the schools. They are incompetent at best

Sammy2012

km79 wrote: »

Was that INTO?

Yes.

History Queen

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

This is relatively normal for the Department. Teachers have not formed their poor opinion of their communication over night. It has been death by a thousand cuts over the years.

One of the worst of which has been the release of crucial information for schools on Friday evenings sometimes even after work hours. Including documents that have needed almost immediate implementation

We are talking about a department who took SIX WEEKS to issue any guidance about online learning after shutting the schools. They are incompetent at best

Lads were the department always this inept? Is it a relatively recent phenomenon or was it always thus?

khalessi

History Queen wrote: »

Lads were the department always this inept? Is it a relatively recent phenomenon or was it always thus?

Has been that way as long as I remember

mirrorwall14

History Queen wrote: »

Lads were the department always this inept? Is it a relatively recent phenomenon or was it always thus?

I didn’t always notice to be honest, when I was younger I didn’t pay as much attention. But certainly since the JCT things seem to have gotten far worse. The late night circulars and communication has definitely been a thing for a year or two.

wirelessdude01

Scoondal wrote: »

Yes. I have not been contacted by my son's school yet.
I would like an e mail that says :
"The 1 February re-opening of our school has been postponed indefinitely".
Is clear communication from schools not possible ?

How can the schools communicate something they haven't been told?

History Queen

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

I didn’t always nice to be honest, when I was younger I didn’t pay as much attention. But certainly since the JCT things seem to have gotten far worse. The late night circulars and communication has definitely been a thing for a year or two.

There's definitely a thesis in the untold damage that the JCT did to goodwill and teacher wellbeing.

wirelessdude01

History Queen wrote: »

There's definitely a thesis in the untold damage that the JCT did to goodwill and teacher wellbeing.

Another thesis could be written on the aul CP hours as well.

History Queen

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Another thesis could be written on the aul CP hours as well.

Or "teacher detention" as they are affectionately known

C__MC

New JC has ruined a good junk of post primary schooling

As for Online learning, can already see some of my students burning out, given that some year groups wont be back until after Easter, it will be some slog on them

jimmytwotimes 2013

A PE teacher to represent a teacher's experience during lockdown shown on Prime Time.

Dunno what to say.

hesaidshesaid

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

A PE teacher to represent a teacher's experience during lockdown shown on Prime Time.

Dunno what to say.

There are no words really.

wirelessdude01

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

A PE teacher to represent a teacher's experience during lockdown shown on Prime Time.

Dunno what to say.

Isn't he the lad who used the megaphone at ASTI congress a few years back?

Thought it was a weird choice to represent the teacher viewpoint. Guessing there weren't many willing to do the piece for fear of what hatchet job could have been done.

teachinggal123

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

A PE teacher to represent a teacher's experience during lockdown shown on Prime Time.

Dunno what to say.

What happened? I didn’t see it.

Locotastic

Murple wrote: »

Some one from one of the hospitals, UHL I think, said that the figures don’t tell the full story. When they say X number in hospital with the disease, they don’t include those still in hospital and requiring ongoing treatment but who are now testing negative for COVID. These are people who may be in hospital for weeks to come.

Did they also say that a third of our hospitalisation numbers were people who went into hospital without covid and that they caught it in hospital?

Some patients will need to stay 4-6 weeks in hospital (and some even longer unfortunately).

They are now testing staff regularly on top of vaccinating, so hopefully we won't have a repeat of these high hospital and ICU numbers.

downthemiddle

Message to schools from the DES this morning.

As you are aware, the Government has made a decision on foot of public health advice to extend the level 5 restriction measures in place to supress the spread of Covid-19, and as part of these measures to continue this phase of school closure at present.
This decision has been made in the context of wishing to avoid the movement of the full one-million strong school-going population daily. The closure of schools will be kept under ongoing review by Government.
It is a priority for Government to address the needs of children with special educational needs and provide additional supports for these children during this period of closure, in line with public health advice.
The Department of Education is engaging closely with stakeholder representatives during this limited period, to work towards achieving consensus on a satisfactory way forward to ensure a safe phased return of children with special educational needs to in-school learning. This remains a high priority for all partners.

The Department is also continuing to work with education partners to ensure that all schools can safely fully reopen, in line with public health advice.
You will have received updated information and guidance in recent bulletins, and it may be helpful to summarise these here, along with some further items that may be useful to parents and the wider school community.

Bananaleaf

downthemiddle wrote: »

Message to schools from the DES this morning.

As you are aware, the Government has made a decision on foot of public health advice to extend the level 5 restriction measures in place to supress the spread of Covid-19, and as part of these measures to continue this phase of school closure at present.
This decision has been made in the context of wishing to avoid the movement of the full one-million strong school-going population daily. The closure of schools will be kept under ongoing review by Government.
It is a priority for Government to address the needs of children with special educational needs and provide additional supports for these children during this period of closure, in line with public health advice.
The Department of Education is engaging closely with stakeholder representatives during this limited period, to work towards achieving consensus on a satisfactory way forward to ensure a safe phased return of children with special educational needs to in-school learning. This remains a high priority for all partners.

The Department is also continuing to work with education partners to ensure that all schools can safely fully reopen, in line with public health advice.
You will have received updated information and guidance in recent bulletins, and it may be helpful to summarise these here, along with some further items that may be useful to parents and the wider school community.

So, no word on when we can go back then? Is their typist paid per word or something???? :rolleyes:

wirelessdude01

downthemiddle wrote: »

Message to schools from the DES this morning.

As you are aware, the Government has made a decision on foot of public health advice to extend the level 5 restriction measures in place to supress the spread of Covid-19, and as part of these measures to continue this phase of school closure at present.
This decision has been made in the context of wishing to avoid the movement of the full one-million strong school-going population daily. The closure of schools will be kept under ongoing review by Government.
It is a priority for Government to address the needs of children with special educational needs and provide additional supports for these children during this period of closure, in line with public health advice.
The Department of Education is engaging closely with stakeholder representatives during this limited period, to work towards achieving consensus on a satisfactory way forward to ensure a safe phased return of children with special educational needs to in-school learning. This remains a high priority for all partners.

The Department is also continuing to work with education partners to ensure that all schools can safely fully reopen, in line with public health advice.
You will have received updated information and guidance in recent bulletins, and it may be helpful to summarise these here, along with some further items that may be useful to parents and the wider school community.

So after all those words they don't explicitly state that schools aren't reopening on February 1st. Clowns.

billy_beckham

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

So after all those words they don't explicitly state that schools aren't reopening on February 1st. Clowns.

So you're saying there's still a chance??

wirelessdude01

billy_beckham wrote: »

So you're saying there's still a chance??

Turn up on Monday and report back.

JDD

So basically what this says is:

The government have extended the Level 5.

That's not to say that schools will be closed until 5 March. We're keeping school closures under constant review.

We all know that in-school learning for special needs children will happen first. We're not saying when this will happen.

We will phase the reopening of schools for all remaining children. We're not telling you what phases will come first, nor when those phases will occur.

To fill out this circular, we're going to summarise previous circulars. So we're not telling you anything you didn't know already, which was f**k all.

billy_beckham

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Turn up on Monday and report back.

:D:D

TTLF

Poorly aged Tweets. :rolleyes:
https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1353020081341689857

jimmytwotimes 2013

TTLF wrote: »

Poorly aged Tweets. :rolleyes:
https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1353020081341689857

If they announce a PG option to the LC, majority will down tools and they know it

TTLF

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

If they announce a PG option to the LC, majority will down tools and they know it

Yeah definitely in the more disadvantaged areas, hence why I would prefer continuous assessment until end of May :pac:

billy_beckham

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

If they announce a PG option to the LC, majority will down tools and they know it

Hope I never end up under the knife of a surgeon who did the LC last year or this....

Icyseanfitz

billy_beckham wrote: »

Hope I never end up under the knife of a surgeon who did the LC last year or this....

the lc would only make them eligible or not for a very intensive college course in order to become a surgeon they would be weeded out very very quickly if they where unable for such a demanding profession.