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Landlord unhappy with blinds

  • 24-12-2020 9:26am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭


    Hi boardsies,

    I am writing today as I received a txt from my landlord last night who was aggrieved at the fact that the blinds at the front of the house arent being opened. Now the blinds at the front are like this bendroom, front door entrance hallway, kitchen/sitting room. This side of the house faces the road and is appox 2/3 meters from said road.

    The blind in the bedroom is always closed fair enough but the one at opposite end that is open but no one can see in.

    The blind in the front hall is usually open during the day we have a Christmas tree decoration on the window there.

    The sitting room kitchen blind to the front is usually only open 1/3 to 1/2 during the day as anyone passing could see in the dinner table is there at the window

    So basically been told they all have to be open from now on, her reason is because the cottage is attached to her air bnb and wants it too look good for people arriving next door to stay. There is a wall between the two cottages dividing them so o dont know. I find it very strange and a first and ive been a renter of many places in the last 12 years.

    There has been other issuses here with landlord one was not allowed make noise outside at any point or duration during the day or use power tools as holiday makers not paying for noise?.

    have been made move our bins.

    Have never received notice bar once we got a hour notice of plumber arriving. On that note twice while doing up the driveway and also moving entrance to property and raising wall on roadside never told to move cars out of driveway not even a knock on the door to say do you want to move car now or basically stuck there til 5 or next day depending.

    Have had a plasterer turn up a 6.00 am and start working in the dark with a lamp.

    The landlord had also made a comment over plumber said "oh you were sick when he called and he didn't want to carry out all his work" it was during the start/middle of pandemic i had a chest infection i informed the man when i let him in and kept my distance i didn't exactly want him thinking i had covid if he heard me coughing and wheezing.

    Final one lately was on one of the days when builders showed up and my car was stuck in for the day the house mate said to landlord a bit of notice would have been nice as the car is stuck in the driveway now again. What was said was " isnt it great were doing all this work for ye and it's costing you nothing"

    It is renting the property we are the only thing that was asked for was the shower to be repaired it was faulty twice (both second hand) new one has been fitted now.

    Washing machine is faulty (still is) has been looked at but no repair attempted.

    Ive noticed ive gone off on a bit of a rant now there is more i could put in here thats gone on the last year funny that only renting this property a year last property 6 years and not one poor interaction with previous landlord.

    Anyway is the blinds thing a thing or should i just ignore it?

    Thanks


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,275 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Your landlord could perhaps do with an explanation of what "peaceful enjoyment" means in the context of a tenancy and how repeated breach of the same could constitute an actionable nuisance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    I would ignore the blinds request.
    He's your landlord, not your mammy.

    He seems to want all the positives from renting his property but none of the negatives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I would say to open your blinds though. Light is a powerful thing as is being able to see outside.

    It's amazing what closing blinds and curtains consistently can do to the mood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Iguarantee


    Hi boardsies,

    I am writing today as I received a txt from my landlord last night...

    I've previously had landlords that wanted the house kept as they would keep it i.e. windows continuously opened for ventilation, bins kept out the back instead of at the front, no shoes upstairs (carpets). From my perspective, I would speculate that the landlord may feel the house is more aesthetically pleasing if the blinds are open. Who gives a f*ck, right? Well, they may care about such things.

    Personally, I don't live in rented accommodation and one of the reason why is that type of stuff. I had a landlord who called by at 21:30 on a Friday night to hoover the place (nice person, just had to maintain the house the way she wanted it). I've also had landlords that I've never even met despite living at the address for two years (which was great!).

    Only you know your relationship with your landlord so it's impossible to say how big a deal the blinds being open/closed are for you or for them. I've lived on a house with a similar set up i.e. bedroom on ground floor facing a footpath so I understand why the blind(s) would be closed.

    What exactly did the text say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,890 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Iguarantee wrote: »
    I've previously had landlords that wanted the house kept as they would keep it i.e. windows continuously opened for ventilation, bins kept out the back instead of at the front, no shoes upstairs (carpets). From my perspective, I would speculate that the landlord may feel the house is more aesthetically pleasing if the blinds are open. Who gives a f*ck, right? Well, they may care about such things.

    Personally, I don't live in rented accommodation and one of the reason why is that type of stuff. I had a landlord who called by at 21:30 on a Friday night to hoover the place (nice person, just had to maintain the house the way she wanted it). I've also had landlords that I've never even met despite living at the address for two years (which was great!).

    Only you know your relationship with your landlord so it's impossible to say how big a deal the blinds being open/closed are for you or for them. I've lived on a house with a similar set up i.e. bedroom on ground floor facing a footpath so I understand why the blind(s) would be closed.

    What exactly did the text say?

    In fairness houses need to be vented and windows should be opened


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    Treat the landlords request as a suggestion.

    Problem solved. I get that it has not been all smooth sailing. But take a deep breath and examine the request for what it is.
    Dont bring all of the frustration you hold into the equation. Simply decide if it suits you to accede. Are there good reasons to leave blinds down, during the day? Will the increased light be beneficial?

    Weigh it up, decide, communicate your decision. The plasterer and your cough have nothing to do with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭FionnK86


    I am writing today as I received a txt from my landlord last night who was aggrieved at the fact that the blinds at the front of the house arent being opened.

    Text? LL (landlord) avoiding calling you, knows you'll sense hesitation in their voice. They're chancing their arm.

    The blind in the front hall is usually open during the day we have a Christmas tree decoration on the window there.

    Sounds like you've made house a home, like you'd be good neighbours, LL should be considering that.

    So basically been told they all have to be open from now on, her reason is because the cottage is attached to her air bnb and wants it too look good for people arriving next door to stay.

    Air B'nB? You could question legality of all this during pandemic. Points to a penny-pinching LL

    There has been other issuses here with landlord one was not allowed make noise outside at any point or duration during the day or use power tools as holiday makers not paying for noise?.

    You're entitled to peaceful enjoyment as above poster pointed out. See https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting_a_home/landlords_rights_and_obligations.html#l78a59

    I'd suggest to LL that they give you builders number and you arrange suitable time with contractors. You're obliged to let LL perform repairs, but I believe they're obliged to arrange it with prior warning. This is easily resolved when you tell the contractor what time to come. I'd issue with old LL about this, he was happier to let me talk to contractor as that meant he wasn't ringing LL asking were we out of bed. Night shift and day shift workers in our house.



    " isnt it great were doing all this work for ye and it's costing you nothing"

    :rolleyes:

    Isn't it great you give them money every month to live there


    Washing machine is faulty (still is) has been looked at but no repair attempted.

    Ring LL, say you're getting machine fixed and they can pay or it'll come out of next month's rent, they're obliged to fix

    Anyway is the blinds thing a thing or should i just ignore it?

    Lot boils down to whether you're contracted and therefore protected. You're lucky not to have come across this in last few years renting. I've rented about 10 times in last 7 years due to college. I'd one LL like this. Use some tact and get them on the phone, don't be threatening but be firm. Most LL's are agreeable if they know you're smart. You've come for advice so you're doing well. Let us know how you get on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,286 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    If the blinds are closed all day, how do you open the window to air the room?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    It is absolutely none of a landlord's business how you run your home, once fixtures are not damaged. The request is ludicrous, for the reasons being given.
    When I rented, I worked out and away during the day and therefore blinds down, cameras facing out and that's how I live. Neighbours followed suit actually. Wanted to know about the Alfred security app as their house was cased also.
    The only murmur I received was from the landlord strangely, who wasn't used to not being able to sneak onsite, and possibly in also, when his hardworking and paying tenants were away.
    Thankfully this little pig got himself some cameras (old Android phones) which catalogued numerous threats to the house over the years and, in the final straight, up to 40 visits from the landlord and his family. Unannounced, harassing visits.
    You certainly need to discuss this with your landlord, awkward as it is, rather than purely text. Use text for 'As discussed,..' etc. But try and talk it out. Don't try and win every battle. Your landlord is clearly a have your cake and eat it gobsh1te. You shouldn't be having stress over their preferences. If they want the blinds up or down, perhaps they should pay the rent.
    Will they be telling their AirBnB guests what to do with the blinds?? Will they f*CK.

    Blinds up when you want to. To enjoy the outside etc. Blinds down when you see fit. A man's gotta know his limitations. Your landlord is due a rattle.

    Ps you said it was a cottage. Most likely it's airing itself all year round, windows closed or not. PPS I still left my blinds down if I opened a window for air or to draw a fire etc. Vents always open. But they can be closed too folks? You know? Like windows and blinds. Essentially, the landlord is domineering you. She needs to go back to her colouredy magazines and dreams of royalty and glitz and allow her peasants to live as free men. And her visiting serfs too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,190 ✭✭✭✭sammyjo90


    If the blinds are closed all day, how do you open the window to air the room?

    Maybe there are vents in the windows.:rolleyes:
    Good lord people cant even close blinds now..
    Does the LL have a camera on the windows..they only think they are never open unless they are watching 24/7.

    I would ignore them OP. Its a ridiculous request. If you like them mainly closed it has no bearing on renting an air bnb next door


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    Tell him to go fcuk himself, in the nicest possible way of course


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭Choosehowevr.


    He's a bit of a tight wad anyhow

    Dodgy or non existent tradespersons

    I'd be conducting all business by email and filing it as a precaution


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭yamaha4life


    There was a lot of replies but to clarify yes its a cottage, very old and extremely drafty / cold single pane windows front and rear doors windows are like sieves ect.

    Anyway to clarify this is about blinds not windows, the bedroom as i said has a second window facing rear of property always open.

    The blind in hall is open at least 3/4 of the way daily or Christmas tree is on the window sill and some lights.

    The kitchen/sitting room has two blinds one facing road the other the side. The side blind is always open until evening the front facing one is open 1/3 to 1/2 daily. Closed in the evenings there is decorations/lights on this window aswell.

    So i cant close the blind if i was wanting to watch tv in my sitting room during the day? Or if im in the bedroom? As i said the hall one is open,

    if i were to guess i think the landlord wanted to see in the other day while we were away as they were around the property, this was evening time dark you would have them closed anyway approx 8pm. I know the land lord was there as mentioned in the message they moved stuff the builder left on the wall to keep water off i guess?

    Now as for putting the txt message up on here I believe this may reveal my identity and if my landlord is on boards they will know straight away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,051 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Hi boardsies,

    I am writing today as I received a txt from my landlord last night who was aggrieved at the fact that the blinds at the front of the house arent being opened. Now the blinds at the front are like this bendroom, front door entrance hallway, kitchen/sitting room. This side of the house faces the road and is appox 2/3 meters from said road.

    The blind in the bedroom is always closed fair enough but the one at opposite end that is open but no one can see in.

    The blind in the front hall is usually open during the day we have a Christmas tree decoration on the window there.

    The sitting room kitchen blind to the front is usually only open 1/3 to 1/2 during the day as anyone passing could see in the dinner table is there at the window

    So basically been told they all have to be open from now on, her reason is because the cottage is attached to her air bnb and wants it too look good for people arriving next door to stay. There is a wall between the two cottages dividing them so o dont know. I find it very strange and a first and ive been a renter of many places in the last 12 years.

    There has been other issuses here with landlord one was not allowed make noise outside at any point or duration during the day or use power tools as holiday makers not paying for noise?.

    have been made move our bins.

    Have never received notice bar once we got a hour notice of plumber arriving. On that note twice while doing up the driveway and also moving entrance to property and raising wall on roadside never told to move cars out of driveway not even a knock on the door to say do you want to move car now or basically stuck there til 5 or next day depending.

    Have had a plasterer turn up a 6.00 am and start working in the dark with a lamp.

    The landlord had also made a comment over plumber said "oh you were sick when he called and he didn't want to carry out all his work" it was during the start/middle of pandemic i had a chest infection i informed the man when i let him in and kept my distance i didn't exactly want him thinking i had covid if he heard me coughing and wheezing.

    Final one lately was on one of the days when builders showed up and my car was stuck in for the day the house mate said to landlord a bit of notice would have been nice as the car is stuck in the driveway now again. What was said was " isnt it great were doing all this work for ye and it's costing you nothing"

    It is renting the property we are the only thing that was asked for was the shower to be repaired it was faulty twice (both second hand) new one has been fitted now.

    Washing machine is faulty (still is) has been looked at but no repair attempted.

    Ive noticed ive gone off on a bit of a rant now there is more i could put in here thats gone on the last year funny that only renting this property a year last property 6 years and not one poor interaction with previous landlord.

    Anyway is the blinds thing a thing or should i just ignore it?

    Thanks

    I had to read this Twice, is your landlord on something, this is just an outrage not withstanding the fact its offensive. I'd be holding onto that Text, create a new one and politely (or not) telling them to F**K Right off. There's also a disturbingly creepy aspect to this, are they actually sitting outside, peeping in, it's just appalling and on Christmas Eve FFS

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭yamaha4life


    I might aswell say this now the landlord has scant regard for boundaries anyway, they have come over to borrow our garden hose (without asking also not provided by them) returned it absolutely filthy covered in cement etc.

    Twice landlord has acessed the rear of property one of the reasons i dont know the other was the pipe for the toilet vent was after pointing downward no knock at door etc. Wouldnt mind but Bathroom window not frosted climbing ladder outside it wile housemate was using toilet at time ran out etc.

    I confronted landlord and said a knock would have been courteous could you do so in future. Some one could have been using toilet they said there was no one in there? But there was.

    I have also mentioned the water tastes horrible metallic. Sent plumber who said it tasted fine to him and landlord tasted it said he has no taste from it. So now im just drinking bottled water.

    As I mentioned i could go on and on. This landlord ive been told has 5 other propertys not including this one and the air bnb.

    Just on the point of the contractors to be fair if the landlord can make time to txt about blinds but not about tradesmen coming what does that say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭AuldDaysul


    If the blinds are closed all day, how do you open the window to air the room?

    I would presume they move the blind to allow them to open the window, then put the blind back to the privacy position that they had before. 🙄


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Are you ventilating the house otherwise it could get a bit manky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭blingrhino


    Tell him to go fcuk himself, in the nicest possible way of course

    Why presume its a he ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    blingrhino wrote: »
    Why presume its a he ??

    Indeed, one should be careful presuming pronouns...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭yamaha4life


    Are you ventilating the house otherwise it could get a bit manky.

    Yes, the house is not mouldy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    If the blinds are closed all day, how do you open the window to air the room?

    Where's the law that says OP needs to air the room?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭Choosehowevr.


    GarIT wrote: »
    Where's the law that says OP needs to air the room?

    A lot of places don't even need it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    GarIT wrote: »
    Where's the law that says OP needs to air the room?

    16.—In addition to the obligations arising by or under any other enactment, a tenant of a dwelling shall—

    (f) not do any act that would cause a deterioration in the condition the dwelling was in at the commencement of the tenancy, but there shall be disregarded, in determining whether this obligation has been complied with at a particular time, any deterioration in that condition owing to normal wear and tear, that is to say wear and tear that is normal having regard to—

    (i) the time that has elapsed from the commencement of the tenancy,

    (ii) the extent of occupation of the dwelling the landlord must have reasonably foreseen would occur since that commencement, and

    (iii) any other relevant matters,

    TBH I'm just be facetious. Also could be argued that not airing the rooms is not an act but lack of same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    16.—In addition to the obligations arising by or under any other enactment, a tenant of a dwelling shall—

    (f) not do any act that would cause a deterioration in the condition the dwelling was in at the commencement of the tenancy, but there shall be disregarded, in determining whether this obligation has been complied with at a particular time, any deterioration in that condition owing to normal wear and tear, that is to say wear and tear that is normal having regard to—

    (i) the time that has elapsed from the commencement of the tenancy,

    (ii) the extent of occupation of the dwelling the landlord must have reasonably foreseen would occur since that commencement, and

    (iii) any other relevant matters,

    TBH I'm just be factious. Also could be argued that not airing the rooms is not an act but lack of same.

    Maybe you could. I'd argue it's not needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    blingrhino wrote: »
    Why presume its a he ??

    Sur they brought a hose and brought it back covered in cement and he went up a ladder to fix a pipe, how many women have you seen going up a ladder or mixing concrete :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Iguarantee


    ted1 wrote: »
    In fairness houses need to be vented and windows should be opened

    I understand and agree. My point was that some landlords want the house operated as they would operate it, for better or for worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭John Hutton


    Shop him to the tax man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭yamaha4life


    Shop him to the tax man

    I believe the landlord is tax compliant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭poker--addict


    It’s often the way people ask for something not what they want that causes issues....The LL is possibly concerned about air/mould or the rest of the home, but hasn’t expressed what the underlying issue is..

    Blinds closed all day could indicate a shift worker, but it could also indicate disorganised, untidy, lazy people. That would be highly judgemental and prejudicial of course, but it’s human nature that a property owner tried to build a picture of what is going on in their property- with some, as already mentioned, trying to influence things to the exact way they would want to live.

    I can see a landlord wondering if people can’t be bothered to lift the blinds and are happy to wallow in dark all day, what else can’t they be bothered to do with the house? Do they ever clean it?

    There’s a house around the corner from us and the blinds never lift. It looks unkept as a result, and given one or two other unusual observations one could arrive at the conclusion that there is drugs or severe hangovers within the house.

    In this case, I’d consider what the LL concern is, consider whether you understand it, and make a decision to ignore it or take it onboard. It’s unlikely it’s going to escalate at the end of the day if you wish to ignore it. In one ear and out the other :-)

    😎



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,504 ✭✭✭Deeec


    I am a landlord with one house. My tenant also does not open the blinds. I have to say this does annoy me although I would never raise the issue with the tenant because they are entitled to use the house as they please within reason.

    Why does not pulling the blinds annoy me?
    1. Because I worry that the house isn't getting aired.
    2. Because it makes the house from the outside look sad and uncared for.
    3. Because I wonder what are they hiding
    4. Because neighbours have mentioned it to me as being weird
    5. Because none of the other houses on the road leaves their blinds drawn constantly.

    As I said I will not mention it to my tenants as an issue. My advice is why can't you just close the blinds when at night and when you are doing something private. As someone else mentioned earlier a house with light makes it a happier healthier home in my opinion. I just want to put a landlords view across.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,286 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    I can see a landlord wondering if people can’t be bothered to lift the blinds and are happy to wallow in dark all day, what else can’t they be bothered to do with the house? Do they ever clean it?

    As both a landlord, and someone who experienced this from a housemate, this is exactly what I'd be thinking.

    Human beings need daylight for proper functioning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭steinbock123


    I live in my own bungalow, not rented. I have two windows in the front. I have the blinds in both closed fully 24/7. I’m not lazy, I don’t have the house like a tip, I just like them down for privacy during the day and the night. I open them the very odd time.
    And I don’t care if my neighbours think it’s weird, and they probably do, as I’m living next door to Irelands answer to Mrs. Bucket!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    KaneToad wrote: »
    I would ignore the blinds request.
    He's your landlord, not your mammy.

    He seems to want all the positives from renting his property but none of the negatives.

    The term " control freak " comes to mind.. Picking my chin up off the floor...

    This is YOUR HOME.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    As both a landlord, and someone who experienced this from a housemate, this is exactly what I'd be thinking.

    Human beings need daylight for proper functioning.

    We also need privacy and my awareness is that that is what this is all about. Not about daylight or air; red herring there!.

    The place is not hermetically sealed.

    OP; I have the glass door here covered in the film that allows light but that cannot be seen through. works grand !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Hi boardsies,

    I am writing today as I received a txt from my landlord last night who was aggrieved at the fact that the blinds at the front of the house arent being opened. Now the blinds at the front are like this bendroom, front door entrance hallway, kitchen/sitting room. This side of the house faces the road and is appox 2/3 meters from said road.

    The blind in the bedroom is always closed fair enough but the one at opposite end that is open but no one can see in.

    The blind in the front hall is usually open during the day we have a Christmas tree decoration on the window there.

    The sitting room kitchen blind to the front is usually only open 1/3 to 1/2 during the day as anyone passing could see in the dinner table is there at the window

    So basically been told they all have to be open from now on, her reason is because the cottage is attached to her air bnb and wants it too look good for people arriving next door to stay. There is a wall between the two cottages dividing them so o dont know. I find it very strange and a first and ive been a renter of many places in the last 12 years.

    There has been other issuses here with landlord one was not allowed make noise outside at any point or duration during the day or use power tools as holiday makers not paying for noise?.

    have been made move our bins.

    Have never received notice bar once we got a hour notice of plumber arriving. On that note twice while doing up the driveway and also moving entrance to property and raising wall on roadside never told to move cars out of driveway not even a knock on the door to say do you want to move car now or basically stuck there til 5 or next day depending.

    Have had a plasterer turn up a 6.00 am and start working in the dark with a lamp.

    The landlord had also made a comment over plumber said "oh you were sick when he called and he didn't want to carry out all his work" it was during the start/middle of pandemic i had a chest infection i informed the man when i let him in and kept my distance i didn't exactly want him thinking i had covid if he heard me coughing and wheezing.

    Final one lately was on one of the days when builders showed up and my car was stuck in for the day the house mate said to landlord a bit of notice would have been nice as the car is stuck in the driveway now again. What was said was " isnt it great were doing all this work for ye and it's costing you nothing"

    It is renting the property we are the only thing that was asked for was the shower to be repaired it was faulty twice (both second hand) new one has been fitted now.

    Washing machine is faulty (still is) has been looked at but no repair attempted.

    Ive noticed ive gone off on a bit of a rant now there is more i could put in here thats gone on the last year funny that only renting this property a year last property 6 years and not one poor interaction with previous landlord.

    Anyway is the blinds thing a thing or should i just ignore it?

    Thanks


    Direct her to RTB site re the rules re access by landlords... She clearly has no idea.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    It’s often the way people ask for something not what they want that causes issues....The LL is possibly concerned about air/mould or the rest of the home, but hasn’t expressed what the underlying issue is..

    Blinds closed all day could indicate a shift worker, but it could also indicate disorganised, untidy, lazy people. That would be highly judgemental and prejudicial of course, but it’s human nature that a property owner tried to build a picture of what is going on in their property- with some, as already mentioned, trying to influence things to the exact way they would want to live.

    I can see a landlord wondering if people can’t be bothered to lift the blinds and are happy to wallow in dark all day, what else can’t they be bothered to do with the house? Do they ever clean it?

    There’s a house around the corner from us and the blinds never lift. It looks unkept as a result, and given one or two other unusual observations one could arrive at the conclusion that there is drugs or severe hangovers within the house.

    In this case, I’d consider what the LL concern is, consider whether you understand it, and make a decision to ignore it or take it onboard. It’s unlikely it’s going to escalate at the end of the day if you wish to ignore it. In one ear and out the other :-)


    One of my rooms is permanently curtained as I have an acute sensitivity yo light that makes this a necessity

    We always had net curtains up for privacy. That worked well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    ted1 wrote: »
    In fairness houses need to be vented and windows should be opened

    I never open a window out here but am in and out all day so the door gets opened time after time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭Choosehowevr.


    Is there any need to open windows if you have vents

    Surely opening windows is an old school idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,686 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Vents allow background ventilation. Opening window provides rapid ventilation and it is a building regulation requirement to have opening windows for this purpose among others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭Choosehowevr.


    mickdw wrote: »
    Vents allow background ventilation. Opening window provides rapid ventilation and it is a building regulation requirement to have opening windows for this purpose among others.

    Ya they open but is there any need


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭yamaha4life


    Im not sure why people are getting hung up on the idea that myself and house mate dont open windows. We do.

    Just to try clarify things.

    All rear and side facing blinds are open every day.

    One front facing blind in a bedroom is closed more or less all the time. This room has another bigger window that is rear facing and that blind is always open and if opening window in there its the rear window.

    The hall blind is open every day 3/4s of the way. There is a pair of windows at the front door frosted so plenty of light there.

    The kitchen/sitting room has two large windows a front roadside facing window and one facing too the side. The blind facing the side is open 3/4s of the way every day. The front roadside blind is open 1/3 in the morning and 1/2 during the day to let in light but closed enough to allow for privacy and watching t.v during the day if in there.

    The land lord has requested that all front facing blinds are opened wound up completely during the day. Reason given they want both cottages looking there good when guests arrive to stay next door.

    They have guests there at present.

    the cottage im in is very old, timber frame single pane windows, timber frame doors ect, i have had to add some seals to poorly fitting windows (some windows didnt even have seals), front and rear doors are like swiss cheese. The fire is lighting and heating on everyday and the sitting room with fire and top room (insulated) is ok, the two halls and bedrooms bathroom are still baltic so i think ventilation isnt a problem.

    Next door is a new build its joined on but not part of ours obviously, the party wall is like paper mache that bedroom borders the two next door bedrooms and you could hear a pin drop in either property.

    as such its not really usable for us now it was my bedroom but children crying all night or partying holiday makers and landlord basically telling me that guest can hear me going in and out of room ect so i have just moved upstairs now and we just dont use that room anymore now which is annoying because ive lost my chill out second sitting room / pool table that was upstairs as i don't always want to spend my time with house mate or watch same things on tv ect. I know thats a small luxury to give up but it was nice while i had it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    OP; you do not have to justify yourself to anyone

    This is YOUR HOME.

    I would not stay there though. I really would not tolerate such an intrusive and controlling landlord. He is way out of order. You are a tenant with inalienable rights not an errant child.
    Is it that you are scared of being evicted?

    Have a word with Threshold? I know they are not popular here ( !!) but as a tenant I always found them supportive and accurate They got me legally free of a very nasty landlord.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭yamaha4life


    Haven't put much thought into the next move as of yet as its Christmas and I would rather not think about it. Haven't replied to the landlords message either as was a little annoyed at the late time it was sent and also the proximity to Christmas for something that in all honest would have kept until the new year surely.

    Thanks for advice ill look at threshold soon.

    I don't think we will be evicted but who knows i guess.

    On a side note the landlord passed today at least 3 times not sure was it to nose in here or on the guests next door perhaps both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Haven't put much thought into the next move as of yet as its Christmas and I would rather not think about it. Haven't replied to the landlords message either as was a little annoyed at the late time it was sent and also the proximity to Christmas for something that in all honest would have kept until the new year surely.

    Thanks for advice ill look at threshold soon.

    I don't think we will be evicted but who knows i guess.

    On a side note the landlord passed today at least 3 times not sure was it to nose in here or on the guests next door perhaps both.

    This reminds me of a landlord way back. We had locked the gates for reasons like yours, and as I had reported him for not being registered he dared not make a fuss. The cottage was isolated and on a steep slope so he used to "patrol " around the back where the kitchen window was. Outside the fence of course. . There would be this pair of legs walking past as i washed up! Until I put cardboard up.

    Assuming he IS registered Sorry if I missed t

    And yes, ENJOY Christmas and New Year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    If the blinds are closed all day, how do you open the window to air the room?


    I presume that like every other premises with blinds, blinds go up, windows go open, blinds come down. Later blinds go up, window goes closed, blinds go down.
    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭mickuhaha


    You open the blind's but put a picture of a giant middle finger right on the window sill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 208 ✭✭Valresnick


    I once lived in an apartment with an amazing view overlooking the sea. Next tenant moved in and had all the blinds down on all windows everyday. I thought no one was in it, but the landlord told me they just liked it like that. He didn’t care, I couldn’t understand it myself !


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,957 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    I live in my own bungalow, not rented. I have two windows in the front. I have the blinds in both closed fully 24/7. I’m not lazy, I don’t have the house like a tip, I just like them down for privacy during the day and the night. I open them the very odd time.
    And I don’t care if my neighbours think it’s weird, and they probably do, as I’m living next door to Irelands answer to Mrs. Bucket!

    Yeah we lived in a bungalow for a year and one of the windows in the main bedroom looked straight onto the street outside - it was busy enough with people walking by who could just have a nose straight in if they wanted. The other looked into the side garden which was walled and private. We left the blind down on the front window all the time. I'd lift it when I cleaned the windows once a week but other than that it stayed closed. We opened and closed the blind on the side window every day, as normal.

    We moved out and I drove past the house the other day and noticed that the bedroom window now has frosted glass in it, so I'd imagine the new tenants were bothered by people looking in also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Who leaves the windows open in December?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    Who leaves the windows open in December?

    Mrs O Bumble obviously


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