Failed Asylum Seeker Fraud

smellyoldboot

soso02 wrote: »

Horrible ****

Mods will tolerate the grossly inaccurate generalization made here ?

Also forgot , they're fierce find of oul manga/anime porn style depicts of the great holy paedophile Mohammed, high king of child molesters

Hamachi

bubblypop wrote: »

You need to know my thoughts on the crime here?
Ok, sure, if it means so much to you.
A crime should always be investigated and whoever is responsible be held to account.
Being brought to court and convicted is justice.
And how do You know that this man is not going to be deported?

Your opinion means nothing to me but glad to see that calling you out gets the thread back on track and we see some rudimentary thought germane to the topic being discussed.

That article mentions nothing about a scheduled deportation date. Let’s follow this case, but I’d be willing to bet my house that the criminal in question will never be removed from this jurisdiction.

soso02

monseiur wrote: »

I have no doubt that, being such an honest man, he's tax compliant in his business - is he trading under his original name or one of his bogus names ???

And I am sure tradesmen declare all their income honesty and are compliant, oh wait ? The cost of this one man to the exchequer pales in comparison to the persistent failure of many self employed to pay their due. If only you afforded this proportionate attention.
You are obviously motivated by inherent racial prejudices.

Hamachi

Hamachi wrote: »

Your opinion means nothing to me but glad to see that calling you out gets the thread back on track and we see some rudimentary thought germane to the topic being discussed.

That article mentions nothing about a scheduled deportation date. Let’s follow this case, but I’d be willing to bet my house that the criminal in question will never be removed from this jurisdiction.

I think you will find I'm not the only one on the thread who has an issue with untrue & lazy stereotypes.

The article doesn't say anything about deportation, but then I would imagine that's the immigration authorities remit. Maybe they will allow him to pay back the other half of the money before deportation

Abel Ruiz

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I posted that in “After Hours”, before the thread was moved. Do keep up.

You’re the only one I hear talking about “shutting this place down”. I have told you, repeatedly, that it would be a disaster if this forum were closed and I have been consistent with that in the “Feedback” thread.

So, please, get your facts rights and stop with the insolence, pal. I’ve had enough of your “guff”, if you don’t like what I have to say then go ahead and hit the “ignore” button. Would be nice to be shot of you.

Emmet, shut your face.
You're a big cnut

Mod: Banned

soso02

Patrick2010 wrote: »

My objection to allowing in these scammers is the same as why we don't need to be allowing in violent scumbags. Just because we have a local collection of both doesn't mean we have to add to the numbers.

This is just an inevitability arising from immigration. If you let people in there's bound to be one black sheep. It's disappointing you regard his actions as representative of asylum seekers. In my dealings, I have found immigrants to be more pleasant to deal with than a certain ethnic group. Once educated, their children will end up being net contributors, it's a win win.

Jasis
Things have escalated

Hamachi

bubblypop wrote: »

Maybe they will allow him to pay back the other half of the money before deportation

That’s a very big ‘Maybe’ for what is the only correct outcome in this case. This state has an appalling record on enforcing deportation orders.

Given the precedence here, I won’t be holding my breath waiting to see the back of this individual.

Maybe, maybe not.
But that's immigrations call and there is no reason why they would publicise it even if it does happen.

smellyoldboot

soso02 wrote: »

This is just an inevitability arising from immigration. If you let people in there's bound to be one black sheep. It's disappointing you regard his actions as representative of asylum seekers. In my dealings, I have found immigrants to be more pleasant to deal with than a certain ethnic group. Once educated, their children will end up being net contributors, it's a win win.

That has worked absolutely swimmingly well in the UK, France, Belgium etc where there are absolutely no problems with 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants from Islamic backgrounds and peace and harmony is the order of the day.

Mad_maxx

smellyoldboot wrote: »

Isn't it funny how with all major sects there are certain stereotypes that largely ring true: Protestant: Work Ethic/Dourness, Catholicism: A certain fecklessness and Joie De Vive, Judaism: Financially aware/capable.

With Islam it's fast becoming: Dole cheats, gang rapists, backward, wants 25 prayer breaks during the working day....

many would insert clannish under judaism , i dont agree with the above BTW but seeing as we are stereotyping

i couldnt care less that so many bogus asylum seekers are muslim , if they were catholics from East Timor and here on a BS story , they should be deported

Hamachi

soso02 wrote: »

Once educated, their children will end up being net contributors, it's a win win.

Now that is a bold statement. Can you back that up with data and evidence from our neighboring societies?

Donald Trump

soso02 wrote: »

And I am sure tradesmen declare all their income honesty and are compliant, oh wait ? The cost of this one man to the exchequer pales in comparison to the persistent failure of many self employed to pay their due. If only you afforded this proportionate attention.
You are obviously motivated by inherent racial prejudices.

What are you talking about. All you are doing is trying to lazily shut down someone by shouting "racist" at them.

soso02

soso02 wrote: »

This is just an inevitability arising from immigration. If you let people in there's bound to be one black sheep. It's disappointing you regard his actions as representative of asylum seekers. In my dealings, I have found immigrants to be more pleasant to deal with than a certain ethnic group. Once educated, their children will end up being net contributors, it's a win win.

Actually, it's a bit early to be assuming that, since Ireland's experience with immigration is still relatively new. Many of the children involved leave Ireland or don't get decent work. At least, that's what seems to be the case across Europe.

Many do become contributors, although considering the cost of the parents and the children for the many years until they become employable, it's highly questionable whether they're net contributors.

As for there being one black sheep among many, that's not really the case either, judging by the percentages of people who remain on the lowest levels of income, or remain on welfare supports throughout their time in the host country.

WrenBoy

soso02 wrote: »

And I am sure tradesmen declare all their income honesty and are compliant, oh wait ? The cost of this one man to the exchequer pales in comparison to the persistent failure of many self employed to pay their due. If only you afforded this proportionate attention.
You are obviously motivated by inherent racial prejudices.

Well it is insult to injury when the guy avails of a compassionate system designed to help people, to take advantage and break the law for personal gain at our expense.

EmmetSpiceland

Abel Ruiz wrote: »

Emmet, shut your face.
You're a big cnut

How “uncivil”. Guess one shouldn’t expect much better from this forum.

Yellow_Fern

soso02 wrote: »

You'll find the indigenous peoples of Ireland are notorious for bogus social welfare claims.
Families in receipt in SUSI funding who could well afford to send their children to college but are privy to the inner workings of the assessment process.
Many people in receipt of PUP since March who are insulted by the suggestion that they should be actively seeking employment.
Many suspended cases have been dished out to Irish citizens caught evading tax/making false social welfare claims.
Why then OP is your gripe particular to the asylum seekers ? I believe we should be asking why these supports are easily available in the first place.

Because as a non-citizen he is a guest. If seems that you are irritated that an asylum seekers are being singled out but then you single out locals. That isnt a very consistent.

smellyoldboot

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

How “uncivil”. Guess one shouldn’t expect much better from this forum.

I don't know anything about you or whoever posted the reply (and I don't want to) but it was one of my favourite moments on boards so far. The crude balls out barbarity of it. Oof.

EmmetSpiceland

smellyoldboot wrote: »

I don't know anything about you or whoever posted the reply (and I don't want to) but it was one of my favourite moments on boards so far. The crude balls out barbarity of it. Oof.

While I can’t help but admire the “straightforwardness”, it’s just not how things are supposed to be on this site.

I should point out that I’m alright when you get to know me.

weldoninhio

bubblypop wrote: »

Maybe, maybe not.
But that's immigrations call and there is no reason why they would publicise it even if it does happen.

How about to show the public that we have a functioning deportation service and give them confidence in it? Much like Gardai standing in front of big drug or arms hauls.

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

How about to show the public that we have a functioning deportation service and give them confidence in it? Much like Gardai standing in front of big drug or arms hauls.

Satisfying nosey members of the public is not their job.
Oh, and and it is gardai that deport them

Abel Ruiz

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

While I can’t help but admire the “straightforwardness”, it’s just not how things are supposed to be on this site.

I should point out that I’m alright when you get to know me.

Go complain in feedback. I'll be gone soon.

The second sentence is not true. You prove consistently, to be a cnut

smellyoldboot

bubblypop wrote: »

Satisfying nosey members of the public is not their job.
Oh, and and it is gardai that deport them

Well at the minute, the only people being satisfied are the hand wringers and do gooders like yourself.

Hamachi

weldoninhio wrote: »

How about to show the public that we have a functioning deportation service and give them confidence in it? Much like Gardai standing in front of big drug or arms hauls.

To be fair, a dog and pony show like that isn’t necessary. All that’s required here is removing a criminal who entered the state illegally and continued to engage in fraudulent activity.

I do understand your sentiment though. Time and again, the Irish people have been let down by the failure of the authorities to enforce deportation orders. It probably explains why there is a degree of inquisitiveness in this particular case.

smellyoldboot

The question has to asked: "Won't somebody please think of the very hairy almost exclusively male children?"

nigeldaniel

As a centre to the right voter, I would have no great beef with anyone from overseas coming here. Asylum seekers or not, a vast number are honest enough. I would say there is more fraud and unlawfully activity going one in every community in Ireland lead by us Irish ourselves. To point to the foreign people is easy. Where you get money their will always be someone who will con, trick and exploit the system. A person could just as easily look at the expenses system in the public service and wonder about that!

smellyoldboot

smellyoldboot wrote: »

Well at the minute, the only people being satisfied are the hand wringers and do gooders like yourself.

No idea why you would consider me a do gooder
Which part of our immigration system is it that you are dissatisfied with?

smellyoldboot

bubblypop wrote: »

No idea why you would consider me a do gooder
Which part of our immigration system is it that you are dissatisfied with?

The hairy baby and "lost documents" fast track approval and if not keep trying again until you can claim you are "settled" here parts.

WrenBoy

nigeldaniel wrote: »

As a centre to the right voter, I would have no great beef with anyone from overseas coming here. Asylum seekers or not, a vast number are honest enough. I would say there is more fraud and unlawfully activity going one in every community in Ireland lead by us Irish ourselves. To point to the foreign people is easy. Where you get money their will always be someone who will con, trick and exploit the system. A person could just as easily look at the expenses system in the public service and wonder about that!

I know sure, it'd be a great country except for all the feckin' Irish.

Gruffalux

hahah this thread