Leinster vs Northampton match thread

KH25

lawrencesummers wrote: »

VDF shouldn’t have been there, player cleared him out the only way possible, initial contact wasn’t to the head. Correct decision.

This is just absolute nonsense.

Kraftwerk

lawrencesummers wrote: »

VDF shouldn’t have been there, player cleared him out the only way possible, initial contact wasn’t to the head. Correct decision.

Absolutely nothing you said is true.

Pudsy33

lawrencesummers wrote: »

VDF shouldn’t have been there, player cleared him out the only way possible, initial contact wasn’t to the head. Correct decision.

A player being in an illegal position isn't a free pass to smash his head with your shoulder? Its the ref's call.

TheAnalyst_

One of the worst decisions I've ever seen given that the ref had a full and clear view of it on the replay.

Squidgy Black

Lads don't bother giving him the attention.

errlloyd

Was that also a maul? I think the reason vdf had his head up was to ask if it was a maul.

randomname2005

lawrencesummers wrote: »

VDF shouldn’t have been there, player cleared him out the only way possible, initial contact wasn’t to the head. Correct decision.

Was to the head from my perspective.
If the only way possible was to shoulder his head then he should have tried something else

Morathi

bilston wrote: »

Really don't get where BOD and Hartley are coming from here...I think Ryle Nugent was pretty surprised by their take as well...that is a red card every day and week of the year.

Watching on C4, Heaslip was on the fence, English female also took the "VDF had his head up" BS excuse.

UAEguy2020

I find it quite worrying how for professionals players dont know how to legally clear someone out when they are in a low position...I play amatur level in Abu Dhabi and we learn how to do it. ****ing hell.

Strumms

Referee , have a word with yourself ffs.

molloyjh

BOD: "Where else is he meant to hit him?"

If he can only hit him in the head Brian, then he shouldn't hit him at all. FFS with everything that has gone on in the last couple of weeks that shouldn't even be a question.

Ryan 'Courtney Lawes' Baird.

UAEguy2020

randomname2005 wrote: »

Was to the head from my perspective.
If the only way possible was to shoulder his head then he should have tried something else

That's the kind of decision England would get so no surprised Northampton got away with it.

degsie

Ref biased for sure

theVersatile

It's a weird one. One one hand, it's a red card clear out by letter of the law. On the other its a technically (as in technique wise) perfect clear out - wins the head space, through the gate and actually wraps (as opposed to a scumbag shoulder hit or a knee crippler from the side). There's literally no other way of clearing out JVDF in that situation.

So yeah, letter of the law it's an outrageous call - but it's the most efficient and usually safe way to take out the jackler.

blackcard

lawrencesummers wrote: »

VDF shouldn’t have been there, player cleared him out the only way possible, initial contact wasn’t to the head. Correct decision.

So that justifies hitting a player to the head. Absolute nonsense. Player has a duty of care. It wasn't as if Van derFlier changed his height

Former Former Former

randomname2005 wrote: »

Except a few weeks ago when the ref said he saw the grounding and was overruled by the tmo

The TMO cannot overrule the ref.

The TMO did his job here. He called the ref's attention to it, showed him all the angles, that's all he can do.

Sangre

theVersatile wrote: »

It's a weird one. One one hand, it's a red card clear out by letter of the law. On the other its a technically (as in technique wise) perfect clear out - wins the head space, through the gate and actually wraps (as opposed to a scumbag shoulder hit or a knee crippler from the side). There's literally no other way of clearing out JVDF in that situation.

So yeah, letter of the law it's an outrageous call - but it's the most efficient and usually safe way to take out the jackler.

Tell all your backrows to lift their head in the jackal. No legal clearout possible anymore!

Kraftwerk

molloyjh wrote: »

BOD: "Where else is he meant to hit him?"

If he can only hit him in the head Brian, then he shouldn't hit him at all. FFS with everything that has gone on in the last couple of weeks that shouldn't even be a question.

And after BOD himself even apologised for his comments about the game getting soft.

randomname2005

Former Former Former wrote: »

That's mad. Citing incoming.

I thought if it was dealt with during the game, with no card given, that was the end of it

UAEguy2020

When someone is that low you go over the top of him/her, rap your arms around their chest area like a set belt, twist to the side and you get them off the ball...I learnt that at amatur level in Abu Dhabi yet apparently that's too much detail for professional teams...

Faugheen

Isn’t Sexton the chair of the International Rugby Players Association?

He needs to be coming out and tearing into these ex-pros over this. It’s an extremely dangerous narrative to start bringing in.

Akrasia

High late hit by Ryan on the Saints 10 and the commentator says it's a compliment to the 10 and the referee ignores it

lawrencesummers

blackcard wrote: »

So that justifies hitting a player to the head. Absolute nonsense. Player has a duty of care. It wasn't as if Van derFlier changed his height

It was a clear out, maybe a small bit high, but a fair contest.


The dramatics from VDF weren’t necessary either. Neymar would be proud.

Former Former Former

randomname2005 wrote: »

I thought if it was dealt with during the game, with no card given, that was the end of it

Isn't that GAA?

Definitely not the case in rugby

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/VMSportIE/status/1340307263861501953?s=19

corny

Former Former Former wrote: »

The TMO cannot overrule the ref.

The TMO did his job here. He called the ref's attention to it, showed him all the angles, that's all he can do.

He can say... which does happen... can you take another look. Code for you really are getting this wrong.

wonder how BOD will explain the VDF hit to his kids this week.

randomname2005

Former Former Former wrote: »

The TMO cannot overrule the ref.

The TMO did his job here. He called the ref's attention to it, showed him all the angles, that's all he can do.

That was my thought too, but I think it was a pro 14 match where the ref said he had a clear grounding, but tmo said no grounding and no try. Possibly Connacht were over the line

Clegg

Very frustrating performance. Lots and lots of errors and poor execution. Yet still scored 35 points.