Shadow and Bone [Netflix]

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peteeeed wrote: »

Netflix Announce "Shadow and Bone" Series Based on Popular Novels by Leigh Bardugo

In a world cleaved in two by a massive barrier of perpetual darkness, where unnatural creatures feast on human flesh, a young soldier uncovers a power that might finally unite her country. But as she struggles to hone her power, dangerous forces plot against her. Thugs, thieves, assassins and saints are at war now, and it will take more than magic to survive

Shadow and Bone stars newcomer Jessie Mei Li as Alina Starkov, Ben Barnes as General Kirigan, Freddy Carter as Kaz Brekker, Archie Renaux as Malyen Oretsev, Amita Suman as Inej, and Kit Young as Jesper Fahey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf91m13vIWo

https://ew.com/tv/netflixs-shadow-and-bone-adaptation-reveals-premiere-date-series-details

EoinMcLovin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHJYYd_RnJc

pixelburp

Never read the books on which this is based, but does look like another Chosen Adolescent One story - there much to it beyond that?

The production looks pretty lavish, so I guess Netflix have some faith it might do well for the 3 seasons it'll give it.

Slydice

I was like.. I know that guy! Turns out he was Billy Russo in The Punisher:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1602660/
maybe it's the beard that threw me off..

He was also in Westworld but I don't remember him from that as much.

pixelburp

Another trailer has surfaced; definite bangs of a Chosen One narrative, no doubt. Can't argue with the look of it though;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1WHQTbJ7vE

pixelburp

Dropped today

gmisk

Reviews look excellent will check it out

fritzelly

It's no GoT or Witcher

Struggled to get thru the first episode - entire cast is pretty much Gen Z/millenials and shows with the acting and dialogue

Slydice

Show feels like it has similar fantasy elements as Carnival Row and His Dark Materials. Money has clearly been put in as the effects and camera work are high end.

1: Good intro to the universe. For the story.. it seems at first

to be cut and dry .. she's got this new power, she'll save the day.. after stuff happens with all these others.. probably good n bad.

I'm guessing there's going to be more to it.

Mars Bar

I finished reading the 2nd book last week so gonna take this really slow and start the 3rd book soon and watch along.

FYI: Kaz and his crew are from a different series of books (Six Of Crows Duology) based in the same universe and those books are REALLY good!

Immortal Starlight

Watching it at the moment and I’m on episode 7. Good enough story and I do like it. The General really reminds me of Gray from Eastenders.

is_that_so

Enjoyed it myself and found it a fairly easy watch. I thought the lead was decent even if there was a fair amount of rent-a-villain going on around her. Definitely not the worst 8 hours you'll waste on Netflix!

Slydice

2: I liked the build up in this episode. Showing

the testing system, the different magics, introducing the General, setting up the motivations of the thieves.. they're all-in now. At a guess.. maybe the General has something more to do with the fold than he's letting on for now.

Slydice

3: The Goat!!!

So SOFT! That was brilliant!!

Potential-Monke

Binged through this over the last 2 nights, and it's pretty much in fairness, tired tropes aside. Effects were really well done, the world is interesting if not completely original (void aside), acting is pretty good for the most part. The main one has some genuine really good natural moments, with others feeling forced. Could see the ending a mile away, and I wish for once

they wouldn't make the bad guy so obvious. Yer man did a good enough job of trying to seem genuine at times but the wardrobe never helped. I know that's also the point, but im sick of the usual bad guy pretending to be good even though its blatantly obvious he's not. I'm also tired of the love story requirement in everything, boring!!! It didn'tfeel natural, definitely forced and the show suffered during those scenes mainly, imo.

The world has me interested, but its cookie cutter formula might kill it for me, unless season 2 changes it up. Not a terrible show, but nothing standing out from it either. Worse shows to watch out there. And I do appreciate that it's not PG. I feel a lot of these shows could benefit from a higher aged target audience.

Taltos

Two episodes and I’m out.
None of the characters are doing it for me and the world is so two dimensional I can see all the books I’ve read waving at me from behind the set.

gmisk

I watched it all....it is fine, passed the time.
The costumes and look of it are terrific, clearly a big budget.
But it was all a bit predictable, the acting was extremely variable, some good some very stage school like. I preferred the criminal gang side to the Alina Starkov

and her soppy stupid twilight light love triangle (the Mal actor was dreadful)

Ben Barnes was fun though.

Also the storyline with the woman accused of being a witch seemed barely related and felt tacked on.

Slydice

4:

Damn, when Mal got shot and Mikhael go done through the chest

:eek:

Thought Mal was gone for sure.

Slydice

5: That was brilliant!

I was like .. AHA! I KNEW IT!!

Slydice wrote: »

At a guess.. maybe the General has something more to do with the fold than he's letting on for now.

I really liked how

Brekker had already put together the body double and the betrayal of the conductor!

So, now

to see if Mal can keep up with them!

Slydice

6: Alright, Now it's on!

Race to the Stag being Hunted on one side.. and possibly going to end up with Nina on the other? and then Brekker and crew.. who are going to be an escape or maybe a way to the fold to take it down.

Slydice

7: Dammit!

Cliffhanger! Noooo!

fritzelly

Slydice wrote: »

7: Dammit!

Cliffhanger! Noooo!

And so long to wait til the next episode :rolleyes:

Sudden Valley

i enjoyed the first season of this. More buffy than game of thrones with its melodramatic storylines but its an interesting world they've depicted. Only really good from 5th episode on, so is a real slow burn.

Slydice

Finished! Enjoyable series. Solid work put into the show by all involved. Good intro, plot, character stories and world building.

8: I was

expecting Alina and Mal to somehow get out. Wasn't sure if they'd push to take down the fold.. although with how the fold was created so easy.. I didn't put it past them. I think they made the right call. Also glad they didn't hide Kirigan surviving.. it was a kinda obvious move when they didn't show him die. I really started gelling to the Nina and Matthias story.. though.. Nina would be clear and easily get through to Matthias for most of the series but then it felt like maybe the storywriters hide a log-jam for how to divide them and suddenly Nina couldn't communicate with Matthias as easily.. in my head I even started imagining her going all Shakespeare on him "foresooth, hath not the nature of devious machinations intent upon our ingracious detachment" an Matthias just being there like

Future: Would definitely watch more from this world. Assuming

Season 2 is going to be bringing Nina and Matthias more into the others stories... along with some kind of battle to, at least try, to take down the fold.

Glebee

Only about 5 ep in but really enjoying this. Visually it looks brilliant at times

Agent Coulson

Renewed for a 2nd season.

EoinMcLovin

https://youtu.be/MvIJcE_Vofs

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EoinMcLovin

Season 2 releasing on March 16th

EoinMcLovin

https://youtu.be/0dOmcdz-PN0

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fritzelly

Damn Netflix - will have to rewatch the first season again because I don't remember much of what happened

EoinMcLovin

Season 1 recap

https://youtu.be/YR6T43Sqsew

Sudden Valley

It seems like Netflix likes cancelling shows now, especially after not promoting new seasons coming out. Season 2 of S&B definitely seems a step down from season 1, just too many characters now.

Slydice

Can't help that it feels like this season dropped right in the middle of a heap of new shows and other shows dropping their new seasons too. There's so much going on.

Sudden Valley

Reminds me of carnival row. First season dropping during pandemic and then too long a gap to second season. Despite having good viewership in first week i think writing is on wall considering they seem to have used the plot of three books in season 2

Spon Farmer

I’m a few episodes in enjoying it. Alina and Mal (although it is possibly just the actor) are quite dull. The various storylines, characters, designs, set, etc are very good though.

The only thing I knew about the story going into was that the Netflix series would stories and characters from other books set after the main trilogy.

Does anyone know why they chose to do this rather than save it for a potential continuation of the show or a sequel to it?

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120433679#Comment_120433679

I think you hit the nail on the head with the first sentence as to why the continuation series (i.e. the Crows part) are included, the Alina storyline is more cliched YA fantasy fare while the Crows apart are more fun. NetFlix cancel series so quickly now that it probably wouldnt have got to the Crows storyline if it was to be based on just the original Alina storyline.

DownByTheGarden

We enjoyed the first seaso of this. Seems like ages ago. Its been so long we arent going to bother with this season. Just cant remember anything that happened and it would be too much effort to start watching again.

EoinMcLovin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120435614#Comment_120435614

I just watched this before starting season 2. good recap of Season 1

https://youtu.be/YR6T43Sqsew

DownByTheGarden

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120436351#Comment_120436351

Thanks, but I think its been put into the inner depths of my brain at this stage. I think i'll look for something new to start.

Spon Farmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120434489#Comment_120434489

Yes now that I think of it the reasons for combining are indeed obvious.

The Alina storyline is good but the whole “best friends don’t realise they are in love” thing is done to death. And there isn’t even an ounce of chemistry between Alina and Mal or the two actors themselves. The guy just sucks the entertainment out of the show whenever he is on screen.

I would have moved on except for the Crows story and now the new character of Nina. I have no idea where that story is going but she has me interested. Actress is Irish unless I am mistaken but not sure why I think that.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120449035#Comment_120449035

She is indeed Irish and the crows have good romance and friendship chemistry that i suspect season 3, if they get it,will be dominated by them and Matthias.

Spon Farmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120451816#Comment_120451816

I thought I heard a bit of an accent in her first scenes but in her accent seemed very neutral in her second episode.

After posting though I found out why I knew she was Irish - I had seen her in short film a couple of months ago called Every Five Miles.

It is her eyes that I remembered.

Anyway always nice to see an Irish actress getting along well.

Spon Farmer

Watched the last episode of season 1 yesterday.

The boyfriend saves the heroine and defeats the villain? Really?

Any time the story turned to Alina or Mal I was just waiting for it to go back to Ben Barnes and the Crows and Nina. I needed subtitles to understand the Mal actor in the previous episodes. By this episode I didn’t bother. :)

I like the character of Nina but the romance with her captor is “seen it all before countless times”. Ben Barnes is a great villain once again and the Crows storyline kept this season going.

I also like the costumes, set designs and the Eastern European influences. Great world building.

Mars Bar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120452578#Comment_120452578

I just discovered that the fella playing Nikolai is Irish too!

And the girl playing Tamar is Irish Chinese. Her name is Anna Leong Brophy.

I really like the series of books but I much preferred the Crows over Alina and Mal. They are more fun and interesting. I am in the Nina books now having just finished King Of Scars and I enjoyed it. Looking forward to reading Rule of Wolves.

Spon Farmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120842038#Comment_120842038

I’m not on season 2 but I knew Patrick Gibson was in this.

He was in THE OA and around that time I remember the media trumpeting him as the next big thing out of Ireland. I think it was because he was in WHAT RICHARD DID and played Brendan o’Donnell in PROPERTY OF THE STATE but I don’t think I have seen him in anything since THE OA.

Kelly Gough RAW and THE FALL was in seasons one as one of the twins - I think she was killed too but not sure.

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Cancelled