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  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭ CSWS101

    Was wondering the same myself, saw they have some good prizes on offer but think you can play the majority of those courses (if not all) for a good bit under their fee.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭ spacecoyote

    You are paying for the prizes and set up on the day really.

    You get announced on the first tee. Goodie bag and food whole way around the course, and a lot of prizes

  • Registered Users Posts: 14 scotty_golf9

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,914 ✭✭✭ blue note

    A quick moan:

    I paid €1,200 for new irons at Christmas. I'd two rounds booked in over the break, including a treat in Portmarnock links. Then I was a close contact so had to cancel them even though I felt great.

    I finally got out for a round on 8th Jan and it was lovely. And I'd two weeks parents leave booked in for he last two weeks on January. The wife is going back to work so we're weaning the child onto the childminder. The plan was a lesson and range sessions on week 1 while we're doing half days then 3 rounds in week two when we're doing full days. Including the treat being one of the rounds in Portmarnock links, having missed out on it in December.

    But, then I slipped going down the stairs last weekend. I swapped the lesson for a physio appointment and time in the range for time lying down for some relief. I've only noticed some signs of recovery last night, but I still cancelled the first of the three rounds. Because I still have to do parenting, and I also didn't want to jeopardise the rounds at the end of the week. The latest is that my childminder has a covid case in her house, so she's out for the week. As are my rounds on Thursday and Friday.

    I thought I'd be able to train myself a little on the new clubs, because I'm making a couple of changes with them. But instead, by the time I get to practice with them I'll have forgotten what I was planning on changing!

    I know this is a first world loan - I'm but getting to play with my new toys. But it is very frustrating!

  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭ bakerbhoy

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭ Ivefoundgod

    From that app? Considering the WHS apps in England, Wales and Scotland don't work when outside your location (or Golf Irelands for that matter, they are reskinned versions of the same app) I wouldn't be holding my breath for that to come to Ireland. It would require opening up API access in order to reference scores recorded on Golf Ireland and I doubt there's a single club in Ireland that has the IT facility to allow a public pull of data from tee sheets unless BRS can facilitate that. Not sure what that would achieve anyway.

    You won't stop people who are determined to game the system, doubt this app would do much. The issue IMO is club committees are not strong enough on obvious h'cap manipulation when it occurs. I also think its a much smaller issue than some people think it is so that investment for the above app to work is a waste of resources IMO.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭ Abominable Dr. Phibes

    Time hasn’t stopped Colin Montgomerie from being the one of the most dislikable lads who ever put on a pair of golf shoes.

    A classic snotty bore.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭ Bahanaman

    As someone who has never played forged irons before, is there really that much of a difference between them and cast? Like many, I've come back to the game during the pandemic and the addiction is still the same! The game is improving all the time and I'm wondering if playing forged irons might help bring me on a bit more.

  • Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭ bakerbhoy

    Forged/Forged type are more consistent with distance.

    If you hit 7 iron 150 .160 or 170 etc

    That's what you can expect each time. It won't be 150 ....180

    Cast /distance irons tend to have hot spots on the face, where you get the occasional bullet.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ dan_ep82

    From my own experience, no, none at all except sound/feel. The real benefit is you can bend them more than cast so they can be fit to a wider range.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,716 ✭✭✭ SuprSi

    I'm sure some of you will have heard of Phil Kenyon, the putting coach? He's opened an online academy ( with loads of videos, drills, exercises, etc. with the aim of making you a better putter. I've tuned into his free videos as he usually does a series of 5 around Christmas, and they're very good. However, his academy is nearly £400 to join for a year, which is a lot of money. You can pay monthly, but it's still a lot.

    I'm wondering whether that kind of money would be better spent going to an actual putting coach a few times, and having in-person lessons. I've never been to a specialised putting coach and it's an area of my game that could do with significant improvement and I wonder whether online lessons would help me improve enough to warrant the cost.

    Any thoughts?

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭ redzerdrog

    It be much better spent buying a new driver :-)

    Messing but definitely in person lessons is surely better value for money. Particularly for something like that.

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,155 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan

    Seems crazy money to me for online videos, I'd imagine wry similar would be available for free on YouTube.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭ Exactly

    I would definitely spend the money on lessons rather than something online. There are any amount of videos with tips on youtube for free if that way inclined.

    The big difference between a pro and online is the Pro will tell you what you are actually doing vs what you might think you are doing. This goes for all aspects of the game and not just putting. A lot of the time we think we are doing one thing are are doing the opposite or nothing like what we expect.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭ Bahanaman

    That's not the answer I wanted to hear!😁 People were supposed to come on here in their droves and say forged clubs are hugely superior in every way. What have I done?!!😣

  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭ The Guru 123

    Maybe a slightly off the wall random thought and I know it won't happen, but isn't 18 holes quiet a lot? I think one of Golfs biggest issues is how time consuming it is. 4 hours to play a round is a fairly serious time commitment.

    Would people think it would be a reasonable idea to reduce it to 16 holes? First off this would shave 25 minutes or so off a round.

    Secondly most golf clubs have little or no proper practice facilities. This would allow them convert 2 of the holes into a proper practice area (and the tees and greens would already be in place) and virtually every club could then with a little investment have very good practice facilities.

    Just a (random) thought.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,710 ✭✭✭ redzerdrog

    18 holes are fine the way they are.

    If I only have 2 hours to spare then I will play 9 holes

    If I have 3 hours to spare I will play 12

    Golf is at its most popular at present

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,155 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan

    I'd be in favour of more 6, 9 & 12 hole comps.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭ Ivefoundgod

    I don't disagree with you but I think we're a long way away from that becoming reality. There are way too many traditionalists who would vote against any attempt to change a course like that. You only need to look at how people think of 9 hole scoring rounds on WHS for an idea of the shitstorm that would be created by something like that.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15 omanomad

    Padraig Harrington was on the late late show saying he was thought 18 holes was too many for a round, but given the interviewer we never got to find out what his proposal was.

    I remember about 6 years ago there was a lot of buzz and press about a new golf series that would be something like 6 holes and it was being backed by a load of famous people, wonder what ever happened to that?

    I’d be in favour of much less than 18, maybe about 12 holes being the norm. 18 is just too much of a slog, too much of a good thing and all that. It would help keep maintenance costs of courses down, and given the massive shortage of golf courses worldwide would mean new courses would be more likely to open up when they don’t need as much space and as much money to set up. Would also make viewing professional tournaments better imho. But I agree the current generation of golfers aged 50+ would never vote for any change like this, so we are probably a good 15 years away from any change like this.

  • Registered Users Posts: 239 ✭✭ IAmTitleist

    Our winter league runs two "nines" of 7 holes each so 14 holes overall.

    3 hours done and dusted. It's perfect.

    Would happily play 14 holes all summer if it was an option.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭ Luckycharm

    I have played in a couple of these, mainly played in it as there were courses I had never played. Never got a goodie bag as such was during covid. Got a burger after 9 holes. Always did wonder about the winners of the closest to the pin winners with such good prizes. Alot of them were often within a ft from over 170yds.

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,155 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan

    Double post

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,155 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭ boccy23

    Interesting on how many young Irish pros are trying to make it, or even the next step.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,096 ✭✭✭✭ callaway92

    Sure the idea of Golf Sixes is supposed to be something different in fairness. European Tour very clearly stole the idea from John McHenry (interesting articles on it) - He was initially backed by Dermot Desmond etc. Was trialled under McHenry's idea in place of a Pro-Am etc. Now it just has become a tournament.

    We will 100% be seeing more tournaments like it in the near future.

  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭ The Guru 123

    Great article. Very noticeable how they all think they are just on the verge of a big breakthrough. I suppose they have no choice but to think that way really!

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭ boccy23

    Yeah, the positive vibes is what struck me as well. But recent history, tells us many more of them will fail than succeed to the next level.

    It's noticeable how other countries are bringing their talent through in a much better way, such as South Africa. I wonder what the GUI are doing in training, development etc. We seem to be behind in our current development of young professionals.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭ The Guru 123

    Yeah agree, there literally isn't one Irish guy in his 20s that you'd have any confidence in predicting will be able to get even a European Tour Card and maintain it for 4 or 5 seasons. Never mind anyone that could reach the level of some of the players we've produced over the last 25 years.