Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

Jordan 199

Barcelona to continue to hold a GP until 2026.

barryribs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118224240#Comment_118224240

After watching the video about three dozen times, I can see it now. If it is passing the FIA's current tests, then there is no problem but from a safety perspective I can see this loophole being closed off pretty quickly.

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118222816#Comment_118222816

Well its not the twitter user the FIA are examining its the video.

Didnt the FIA use some of Chandhok's Sky analysis once to penalise a team?

BikeRacer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225599#Comment_118225599

Only thing I can find on that is Vettel got penalised for an unsafe rejoin in Canada 2019 which Ferrari appealed using Sky Pad analysis by Karun. But even someone as respected as Karun with HD video analysis wasn't able to help Ferrari get it over turned so the penalty stood.

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225599#Comment_118225599

Not exactly. Ferrari tried to use Chandoks analysis as a defence for the Canadian Grand Prix penalty in 2019. It got thrown out in between the fits of laughter.

recyclebin

Vettel blocking of Hamilton that day was a much milder offence than Verstappens one in Brazil. Vettel was unlucky to get penalised for it if I remember correctly.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118225118#Comment_118225118

I believe this is from Brazil, and there were suggestions that the wing stopped doing its trick at Qatar.

RunningFlyer

Is there any truth to rumour that the Jeddah track is still unfinished and might not be complete by next week? Not a huge amount of articles online (probably Saudis censoring!) but what happens if it’s not ready?

Surely way too late in the day to arrange a different track? Unless Bahrain outer came into play? Doubt they would sacrifice the Saudi money though…

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118228550#Comment_118228550

I haven't even heard much discussion of the tight completion timescale. They just said its tight but the event organisers said it will be ready in time - end of discussion.

It will be embarrassing for everyone involved if the track isn't ready. I'd imagine they will focus on the essentials and sacrifice things like fans and service roads. If they just make the camera facing things lol good and make the safety features functional, and sacrifice everything else, they might male everything work.

flazio

From what I understand the track itself, as in the road surface is ready. It might just be a stand or two that'll need to be refunded. Think how quickly Formula E can get Street tracks up and down.

PopePalpatine

I'm morbidly curious as to how much of a sh*tshow this will be, but knowing Masi there'll be about 10 minutes of green flag running by Sunday and then 2 laps behind the safety car, along with 6 hours of David Croft regurgitating Saudi-affiliated LinkedIn posts.

namloc1980

https://youtu.be/QcemtIEQ79U

Carlos Sainz 😂

recyclebin

It looks like there will be a track and barriers in the middle of a building site by the looks of it.

Ricciardo great as well. 😀

Frank Bullitt

Can see this being a Korea 2010 style event.

Track will probably have very little grip at the start, depends on how much it ramps up though.

Edit* just saw a tweet that says the last layer of the track was laid THIS WEEK! How long does it usually take to cure?

Korea 2010 wouldn't be as bad as Turkey last year in fairness. Even Portimao looked well short of full speed at the end. Merc (Hamilton especially) have done well in those kinds of conditions before. The track looks like a Merc track as well the more I see it, whole lotta full throttle.

MadYaker

This Saudi track looks very high speed, long, no run offs etc. It’s definitely going to be hard on tires and with a new surface there may be the potential for carnage. Hopefully nothing too massive. Free practice might be more interesting than usual.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118235232#Comment_118235232

Listening to one of the podcasts and they said the RB tends to be front tyre limited where the Mercedes tends to be rear limited (pretty sure I have it the right way around but maybe someone will correct me). They thought Qatar would be rear limited but it turned out to be front limited and that counted against RB.

I wonder will Saudi be front or rear limited? You'd think a high speed track would be front limited, is that how it works?

Jordan 199

Frank Williams has died.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/59453378

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118235583#Comment_118235583

I think that he deserves a thread all of his own. Not even that old really. Only 79. May he Rest In Peace.

flazio

And he probably thought we'd all forgotten.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW3Ko7vI1f6/?utm_medium=copy_link

AMKC

Ye we kinda had untillbthis post came up. Who is that on the table getting the tattoo? Is that the Renault or now former Renault F1 boss boss he made the bet with and if it is then its about time.

Hijpo

Abiteboul with hair isn't it?

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118232946#Comment_118232946

I think last years Merc was more suited to that, they had the floor optimised for pretty much any condition. The loss of that and the rear brake ducts seems to have reverted that a bit on them, Baku for instance wasn't great for them due to the low grip surface.

This new track is a completely unknown. The surface hasn't had a lot of time to even cure yet despite the heat.

flazio

Yep Cyril Abiteboul getting the long promised tattoo. Both him and Daniel have long left Enstone.

Burkie1203

Seen some pics of Jeddah on social media. Formula E on steroids this weekend. Will be a miracle if Mazepin doesn't total his car once

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118247735#Comment_118247735

I see Mazepin was complaining that his chassis is heavier than Schumacher's. They're using last years car so the chassis was the seme as last year's. They had to make a new one and made some improvements and gave it to Schumachera.

Mazepin complained that it was lighter than his so his father paid for them to make a new one for him. He used it in the last few races aaaand he wrecked it in Qatar practice. So he's back to using the older heavier one and has the cheek to complain that it's heavier than Schumacher's.

Can't blame Haas for choosing to give the better one to Mazepin.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/dmitry-mazepin-paid-new-haas-chassis/

klose

Thread for Saudi GP

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058220595/formula-1-round-21-saudia-arabia-gp/p1?new=1

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118248182#Comment_118248182

You mean for given the better one to Schumacher lol not Mazepin.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118248695#Comment_118248695

Ha. That's exactly what I mean.