The Vaccine

enno99

From the same article

Alaska reactions

On Wednesday, state officials in Alaska reported that two health care workers in that state experienced allergic reactions to the Pfizer product.

One worker, described as a middle-aged woman with no previous allergy history, stabilized after treatment Tuesday following a rapid heartbeat, trouble breathing and a skin rash and redness, CBS News reported. She was admitted to a Juneau hospital for monitoring.

The second employee experienced milder symptoms, including eye puffiness, lightheadedness and a scratchy throat, the report said.

The Alaska hospital has vaccinated about a quarter of the 400 employees who made requests, CBS News reported.

So thats 2% had adverse reaction

https://www.foxnews.com/health/chicago-area-hospital-to-resume-vaccinations-after-4-workers-experience-adverse-reactions-report

runawaybishop

enno99 wrote: »

From the same article



So thats 2% had adverse reaction

https://www.foxnews.com/health/chicago-area-hospital-to-resume-vaccinations-after-4-workers-experience-adverse-reactions-report

Jaysus. Not a scratchy throat. Won't somebody think of the children


Medicine has side effects. This isn't news.

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

Where do it say trials in the article

I never mentioned that it did.

enno99

enno99 wrote: »

From the same article

So thats 2% had adverse reaction

https://www.foxnews.com/health/chicago-area-hospital-to-resume-vaccinations-after-4-workers-experience-adverse-reactions-report

2 people had allergic reactions.

Are you claiming that 2% of the entire population of the world will have these reactions?

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

From the same article



So thats 2% had adverse reaction

A vaccine works by being injected with a small dose of the disease, so there will be affects for a portion, there is even a remote chance of life-changing or life-threatening effects, but these are typically rare.

1.5 mm have died as a result of Covid, how many will die from the vaccine over the same period?

If you know that number is infinitesimally small, they why are you here playing the role of anti-vaxxer and Covid-denier?

enno99

Dohnjoe wrote: »

I never mentioned that it did.

Yea I know just your dishonesty showing again

Mention context quote the article then add on your own dishonest spin about trials

enno99

enno99 wrote: »

Yea I know just your dishonesty showing again

Lol.
You have dodged every question and point put to you.
You don't really have the standing to judge people's honesty pal.

Quiner

Dohnjoe wrote: »

A vaccine works by being injected with a small dose of the disease, so there will be affects for a portion, there is even a remote chance of life-changing or life-threatening effects, but these are typically rare.

1.5 mm have died as a result of Covid, how many will die from the vaccine over the same period?

If you know that number is infinitesimally small, they why are you here playing the role of anti-vaxxer and Covid-denier?

How can you continue to claim "as a result of covid"? The numbers are clearly inflated. In England if a person dies within 28 days of testing positive for covid they are put down as "died from covid". They may have recently changed the way they classify deaths there, but that was the case for months.

enno99

Dohnjoe wrote: »

A vaccine works by being injected with a small dose of the disease, so there will be affects for a portion, there is even a remote chance of life-changing or life-threatening effects, but these are typically rare.

1.5 mm have died as a result of Covid, how many will die from the vaccine over the same period?

If you know that number is infinitesimally small, they why are you here playing the role of anti-vaxxer and Covid-denier?

kingmob says 1.6
And they died of lost of things even a coroner in us town said its beyond a joke they were forcing her to put Covid as cause of death for 2 gunshot victims

enno99

King Mob wrote: »

Lol.
You have dodged every question and point put to you.
You don't really have the standing to judge people's honesty pal.

Hey im not your pal

And if ignoring BS artists and liars is dishonest so be it

Quiner

enno99 wrote: »

kingmob says 1.6
And they died of lost of things even a coroner in us town said its beyond a joke they were forcing her to put Covid as cause of death for 2 gunshot victims

Correct. It's wrong to continue to claim 1.5 million died as a result of covid. A woman in Tennessee died and 6 months later her son got a letter to say she'd tested positive for covid. She somehow managed to come back from the dead to take a covid test.

enno99

enno99 wrote: »

kingmob says 1.6

I don't say this.
This is simply the facts.
You were provided a source, but shock, you ignored it.

You haven't been able to provide a better more accurate number. You've dodged all requests for this.

You deny the real number because of a vague conspiracy you refuse to detail.

All dishonest tactics that you keep repeating.

enno99 wrote: »

And they died of lost of things even a coroner in us town said its beyond a joke they were forcing her to put Covid as cause of death for 2 gunshot victims

Straight out lie.

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

Yea I know just your dishonesty showing again

Nope, you've entirely misunderstood. I was quoting an article about someone having adverse effects and underneath that pointing out the fact that people had adverse effects during trials. Both of which are true.

Since you can't counter these points you have clearly resorted to being pedantic.

enno99

enno99 wrote: »

Hey im not your pal

And if ignoring BS artists and liars is dishonest so be it

But you keep ignoring all points and questions put to you because you can't address them directly and honestly.
That's why you've had to resort to all this ridiculous dodging and evading and now it appears that you're resorting to out right lies.

This is dishonest pal.

Dohnjoe

Quiner wrote: »

It's wrong to continue to claim 1.5 million died as a result of covid.

How many have died in total as a result of Covid? please back up your figures with proper sources.

And before you choose the "we can't really know" route, you can't deny official estimates if you have none of your own backed by evidence.

enno99

The Grand County coroner is speaking out in objection to how some deaths are being classified as coronavirus-related even though that appears to not be the case. Brenda Bock cited recent examples including two people whose deaths were reported as COVID-19-related but were actually victims of gunshot wounds, KCNC-TV reported.

Here

enno99

enno99 wrote: »

Here

An unsourced quote?
That's not proof or evidence.
It's just a pathetic attempt to defend a pathetic out right lie.

Even if it was evidence, you've 1,599,998 more deaths to prove weren't due to covid.

What you could do is provide the accurate number you believe have died from covid.
You've been asked before, but you dodged and ignored the requests. You did this because you can't provide this.
Because your position is silly and dishonest.

enno99

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=coroner+says+gunshot+victims+were+covid&t=brave&ia=web&iai=r1-4&page=1&sexp=%7B%22cdrexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22artexp%22%3A%22c%22%2C%22biaexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22msvrtexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22bltexp%22%3A%22b%22%7D

Enough sources for you

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

kingmob says 1.6

More pedantry. A week ago the figure was closer to approx 1.5 mm, so I have been using that, in the meantime that figure is now closer to approx 1.6 mm.

We know all these denialist tricks here, it's all coming.

enno99

enno99 wrote: »

Enough sources for you

No.
Provide the real number for the deaths due to covid, or grow up, be a man and admit that you can't.

enno99

Dohnjoe wrote: »

More pedantry. A week ago the figure was closer to approx 1.5 mm, so I have been using that, in the meantime that figure is now closer to approx 1.6 mm.

We know all these denialist tricks here, it's all coming.

LOL

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

And if ignoring BS artists and liars is dishonest so be it

Considering you are making these claims conspiracy theory forum, that demonstrates even you know they are shaky as hell.

And if you want to make a point of "well on the other forums they don't accept these opinions", well that's a big clue

It's one thing presenting a far-fetched conspiracy as opinion, which is fine, however it's quite another to be a) presenting it as fact and b) attacking anyone who points all the holes in it

enno99

King Mob wrote: »

Straight out lie.

No retraction ?

enno99

enno99 wrote: »

No retraction ?

No.
Because your claim that the number of 1.6 million is inflated is a lie.
Using the opinion and unverifiable claims of a random person in Colorado does not show that the figure is inflated. Claiming it does is a lie.
You know it's a lie.

You haven't provided the number you believe is the true rate of death due to covid.
This is an admission that you can't.
You are just not willing to admit this directly.

enno99

Didnt expect anything else lol

enno99

enno99 wrote: »

Didnt expect anything else lol

Why would you expect a retraction for something you haven't disproved.
You lied.

The number isn't inflated.
You admitted that you can't provide a more accurate one.

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

Didnt expect anything else lol

Noticing you keep asking questions and making demands here but you rarely answer other questions

To recap:

How many have died in total as a result of Covid? please back up your figures with proper sources.

How many will die from Covid vaccines? give an estimate (e.g. over the next year)

enno99

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Noticing you keep asking questions and making demands here but you rarely answer other questions

Your mixing me up with the poster above yours

enno99

enno99 wrote: »

Your mixing me up with the poster above yours

You say this after you dodge yet more questions you cannot answer.

This is beyond dishonesty now.

You are simply wasting people's time because you've given up on your conspiracies.

enno99

King Mob wrote: »

Why would you expect a retraction for something you haven't disproved.
You lied.

The number isn't inflated.
You admitted that you can't provide a more accurate one.

Even if it was only inflated by the 2 I mentioned
its inflated and your wrong again