The Vaccine

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

No it wasnt public knowledge it was uncovered under freedom of information.

Was it officially authorised for use for Swine flu? Pretty confident it was...

skooterblue2

Deleted User wrote: »

Was it officially authorised for use for Swine flu? Pretty confident it was...

IF it was gotten under Freedom of Information that mean it had to be dug out. Some journalist was tipped off. We need transparency in Government and privacy for citizens.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I have seen a few of them with syringes with nothing in them, the sheath left on and the needle retracted.

Yeah same. Seen at least 3 or 4 videos of high ranking people taking clearly fake injections...but why?? If they wanted a fake injection could they not just inject them with vitamins or something with a real needle...why the clear fakery???

It just doesn't make sense.

Actually watching that video in slow motion it's clear there's a point to the needle and it is indeed an injection... Whatever I watched earlier was doctored to look like a fake needle.

What a world...have to check and re check everything.
Yep, I'm wrong on this one.

Timberrrrrrrr

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Skip in two minutes to see the Pence fake injection. The rest of the injections are conveniently obscured.

https://youtu.be/rZIX4YJQBzg

What was "fake" about it?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What was "fake" about it?

Yeah I'm not gonna repeat myself.

skooterblue2

Deleted User wrote: »

Was it officially authorised for use for Swine flu? Pretty confident it was...

Yes but not so the public would know. There was one batch for the military another for the public...... does that sound weird to you? The one for the public? Wasnt that Pandemrix? The Narcolepsy problems?

Lex Luthor

Usual trying to debunk the facts


Politicians get a different vaccine
It was proven and your arguments don’t stack up

seannash

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Yeah same. Seen at least 3 or 4 videos of high ranking people taking clearly fake injections...but why?? If they wanted a fake injection could they not just inject them with vitamins or something with a real needle...why the clear fakery???

It just doesn't make sense.

Actually watching that video in slow motion it's clear there's a point to the needle and it is indeed an injection... Whatever I watched earlier was doctored to look like a fake needle.

What a world...have to check and re check everything.
Yep, I'm wrong on this one.

Is this a rare occasion where the conspiracy theorists doctored evidence to suit their narrative?
Fair play to you for admitting you were wrong on this one. Thats rare around here

Dohnjoe

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Yes but not so the public would know. There was one batch for the military another for the public...... does that sound weird to you? The one for the public? Wasnt that Pandemrix? The Narcolepsy problems?

You believe there is a link between vaccines and autism?

skooterblue2

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Yes but not so the public would know. There was one batch for the military another for the public...... does that sound weird to you? The one for the public? Wasnt that Pandemrix? The Narcolepsy problems?

It wasn't a known adverse side effect and happened at a rate of 0.005%. But back to point, any proof that Biden t al are getting different vaccines?

Lex Luthor

seannash wrote: »

Is this a rare occasion where the conspiracy theorists doctored evidence to suit their narrative?
Fair play to you for admitting you were wrong on this one. Thats rare around here

The same ones that doctored the de bilde article

Lex Luthor

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Skip in two minutes to see the Pence fake injection. The rest of the injections are conveniently obscured.

https://youtu.be/rZIX4YJQBzg

That is hilarious

Did you see the kid putting the needle into Pence

Was there an earthquake happening?

What a publicity stunt, we're not falling for it

enno99

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Including some context:

"A hospital north of Chicago has temporarily paused coronavirus vaccinations for its staff after four employees experienced adverse reactions that included tingling and elevated heart rates, according to a report."

"Three of the employees were recovering well at home while the fourth was continuing to receive medical attention, FOX 32 of Chicago reported."

Yes, during trials people experienced adverse reactions.



There are going to be hundreds of stories like this over the next few years. There's probably an explanation, but anti-vaxxers and alarmists are not going to care, they will go nuts at each one.

This forum and anti-vax threads will be full of this stuff for years to come.

Lol no worries so

Dohnjoe

Just when you thought the anti-vaxxers were quashed by the reality of a global pandemic, nope, there's a brand new vaccine for them to get hysterical over

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

Lol no worries so

Some people in the trials had adverse reactions to the vaccine jab. No vaccine is 100% safe with zero side effects.

Alarmists and deniers try to highlight those individual cases in order to scare others away from vaccines.

Fighting Tao

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Some people in the trials had adverse reactions to the vaccine jab. No vaccine is 100% safe with zero side effects.

Alarmists and deniers try to highlight those individual cases in order to scare others away from vaccines.

But why do they care what others do to themselves? If someone chooses to get vaccines then so be it. It may save the conspiracy theorists life at worst, but they still want to spread lies and misinformation. Just ****-stirring.

Lex Luthor

Fighting Tao wrote: »

But why do they care what others do to themselves? If someone chooses to get vaccines then so be it. It doesn’t affect them but they still want to spread lies and misinformation. Just ****-stirring.

I don’t care

Shoot away

Fighting Tao

Lex Luthor wrote: »

I don’t care

Shoot away

I don’t believe you.

Lex Luthor

COVID-19 had its weetabix

"The new variant might be as much as 70% more transmissible"

Fighting Tao

Lex Luthor wrote: »

COVID-19 had its weetabix

"The new variant might be as much as 70% more transmissible"

Viruses mutate all the time. It shouldn’t impact the vaccine. What is the conspiracy here?

Does bold and italics make the conspiracy any more real?

Lex Luthor

Fighting Tao wrote: »

It shouldn’t impact the vaccine.

Let me guess, you can back this up but you just cant or wont and you'll probably want me to answer questions about RFID

So they are locking parts of the UK down to stop the virus getting to other parts of the UK but its weaker sibling managed to get out of a meat market in Wuhan and infect the entire world

Fighting Tao

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Let me guess, you can back this up but you just cant or wont and you'll probably want me to answer questions about RFID

So they are locking parts of the UK down to stop the virus getting to other parts of the UK but its weaker sibling managed to get out of a meat market in Wuhan and infect the entire world

You do realise that air travel wasn’t a problem when it initially spread across the world, and very little was knows about the virus at the time?

Also, they are right to lock down areas where the new variant is. Why would they want to let a highly transmissible virus to run rampant?

Slow the transmission to help the health service not be over run, and have people die unnecessarily. But you know this and don’t care if people die.

So what is the conspiracy you are pushing now?

Lex Luthor

I dont have enough shovels for this

Fighting Tao

Excellent post about nothing again. It’s a pity because you could have doubled down on the rods thing by saying they will be in a new variant of the vaccines.

Ted_YNWA

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Timberrrrrrrr

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Yeah I'm not gonna repeat myself.

Repeat what?

You benefits fake? I don't see anything fake about it.

Please expand on why you think its fake.

Timberrrrrrrr

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Let me guess, you can back this up but you just cant or wont and you'll probably want me to answer questions about RFID

So they are locking parts of the UK down to stop the virus getting to other parts of the UK but its weaker sibling managed to get out of a meat market in Wuhan and infect the entire world

Oh the absolutely fùcking irony :pac:

enno99

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Some people in the trials had adverse reactions to the vaccine jab. No vaccine is 100% safe with zero side effects.

Alarmists and deniers try to highlight those individual cases in order to scare others away from vaccines.

OK show where it says trials in the article you quoted

Or are we all part of a trial.

Dohnjoe

enno99 wrote: »

OK show where it says trials in the article you quoted

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccine-trial-volunteers-note-occasional-harsh-side-effects-11608114601

Ms. Edwards, like the other 30,000 volunteers who took part in Phase 3 clinical trials for Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine, wasn’t told whether she got the vaccine or a placebo. However, she said a trial researcher attributed her symptoms to her body mounting a strong immune response to what was most likely the vaccine. “It’s better having 36 hours of feeling really rough than getting Covid,” she said.

Pfizer’s vaccine, which uses technology similar to Moderna’s, showed similar side effects, according to data released last week. Among its volunteers aged 18 to 55 receiving their second dose, 15.8% got a fever, compared with 0.5% of the placebo group; 35% got chills versus 4% of placebo recipients; and they also got more headaches and were more fatigued than those who got the placebo. Volunteers in both trials who received the vaccine also reported pain at the injection site more frequently than placebo recipients.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-we-know-about-the-side-effects-of-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine#Serious-adverse-events-are-rare

Among participants who received the vaccine and those who got the placebo alike, the reported rate of serious adverse events is less than 0.5 percentTrusted Source, with no significant differences between the two groups.

Four cases of Bell’s palsy have been reported in participants who received the vaccine, while none has been reported in those who got the placebo.

Severe allergic reactions to vaccines are very rare, but they can happen. The FDATrusted Source recommends that people who have experienced a severe allergic reaction to a previous dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, or to any of its ingredients, should not receive it.

https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2020/coronavirus-vaccine-side-effects.html

Adverse and allergic side effects are possible but rare.

enno99

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Including some context:

"A hospital north of Chicago has temporarily paused coronavirus vaccinations for its staff after four employees experienced adverse reactions that included tingling and elevated heart rates, according to a report."

"Three of the employees were recovering well at home while the fourth was continuing to receive medical attention, FOX 32 of Chicago reported."

Yes, during trials people experienced adverse reactions.



There are going to be hundreds of stories like this over the next few years. There's probably an explanation, but anti-vaxxers and alarmists are not going to care, they will go nuts at each one.

This forum and anti-vax threads will be full of this stuff for years to come.

Where do it say trials in the article

Or were you just putting that in there to mislead people


Thats the problem as I have stated before Spin and dishonesty is the main cause of poor vaccine up take
If you want conspiracy theorists who have probably done most damage
You could look to Biden, Cuomo,Pelosi et al making statements like I wouldnt trust a vaccine that trump was involved in
Cuomo said he didnt trust the head of the FDA