Bloody Sunday 100 years later

Plumbthedepths

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Its nationalist propaganda which is rife within the GAA, did they lay a wreath for the British officials who were murdered in front of their families that morning?

The commemoration is about the 14 men, women and children murdered by the uniformed agents of an occupying power.
I'm not familiar with any state that commemorates the deaths of their oppressors.

smellyoldboot

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Do these melodramatic presentations drudging up bad memories really help unity on our island?

We'd have had a better shot at unity if we had of actually carried out the type of ethnic cleansing our loyalist friends always accused us of. To Hell or to Stranraer. As it is , I want no unity if it means compromising our own identity to accommodate those animals.

Stihl waters

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Its nationalist propaganda which is rife within the GAA, did they lay a wreath for the British officials who were murdered in front of their families that morning?

British officials gathering intelligence and justified killing of foreign interlopers is what it was, you're coming across as a simpleton if you think spies on an information gathering brief weren't fair game for a bullet in the head

Stacksofwacks

smellyoldboot wrote: »

We'd have had a better shot at unity if we had of actually carried out the type of ethnic cleansing our loyalist friends always accused us of. To Hell or to Stranraer. As it is , I want no unity if it means compromising our own identity to accommodate those animals.

that's it dehumanize the otherside and the purge is on

smellyoldboot

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Its nationalist propaganda which is rife within the GAA, did they lay a wreath for the British officials who were murdered in front of their families that morning?

Pity there wasn't more of them culled.

statesaver

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Its nationalist propaganda which is rife within the GAA, did they lay a wreath for the British officials who were murdered in front of their families that morning?

They were here as willing combatants and were here to kill Michael Collins and his people.

British officials Were they here checking paper work ?

smellyoldboot

statesaver wrote: »

They were here as willing combatants and were here to kill Michael Collins and his people.

British officials Were they here checking paper work ?

Should have taken the Sicilian route and taken out the families too just to make sure.

statesaver

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

that's it dehumanize the otherside and the purge is on

WAR IS HELL

Necro

Mod:

Thread moved to CA, reminder to read the charter

statesaver

It was a nice tribute in Croke Park today. Well done to all involved.

pummice

LuasSimon wrote: »

Powerful commemoration by Brendan Glesson in Croke Park this evening 100 years after the Black and Tans shot dead 14 people including players and children at a Gaelic football match in Croke Park . Presently on RTÉ 2 .

There werent 14 people shot dead. 3 of the 14 died in the crush.

El_Duderino 09

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Let the woke self loathing begin.

Is it woke to want to commemorate it or woke to oppose the commemoration?

Donald Trump

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Its nationalist propaganda which is rife within the GAA, did they lay a wreath for the British officials who were murdered in front of their families that morning?

Get out of that.


If it was just a few citizen officials murdered randomly in the morning then you wouldn't have had the British Army out on a revenge mission now would you? Those agents could have decided not to bring their families to act as camouflage to what was essentially a conflict zone if they so wished.



When there was shooting in the Regency hotel a few years back, where one group of criminals tried to kill members of another group, you didn't see the Guards or the army invading Shamrock Rovers ground to randomly shoot spectators. And if they did, you probably wouldn't be defending them. I mean, you might be relatively unconcerned as the victims would be likely LOI soccerball heads, but on the principle of the matter you would probably be considerably nonplussed.

.anon.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Is it woke to want to commemorate it or woke to oppose the commemoration?

Both.

Quantum Erasure

Just watching the Meath Dublin game

#BlackCardsMatter

whisky_galore

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

The British didn’t even bother laying a wreath for those filthy swines so I don’t see why we should do it for them. They were the enemy.

They actually got a full on state funeral.

Some of the Irish victims didn't even get grave stones until recently.

Mr. Karate

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Its nationalist propaganda which is rife within the GAA, did they lay a wreath for the British officials who were murdered in front of their families that morning?

If the GAA was full of Nationalists then they would not have let a Muslim ceremony take place in Croke Park this past summer.

Church on Tuesday

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Its nationalist propaganda which is rife within the GAA, did they lay a wreath for the British officials who were murdered in front of their families that morning?

Look, I won't be drawn into this nonsense argument. Posters like you (and there are many on this site who love to draw this contrarian line of argument for ****s and giggles about just about anything) would argue with their shadows and it's beyond sad.

Leave aside Anglo Irish relations; the simple fact is that innocent people went to see a game of football and never came back from it, that's a world apart from working as British Intelligence officials who obviously were well aware of the potential dangers of working in Dublin at the time. You can't even compare the two scenarios.

The GAA are remembering an awful event which happened within their own stadium, I fail to see why the GAA would have to go out and lay wreaths for members of British Intelligence killed in war.

James Brown

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Do these melodramatic presentations drudging up bad memories really help unity on our island?

Why, the long disbanded black and tans/RIC a culture now?

Brings how much of an arse Charlie Flanagan and his fellow travelers are to the fore.

Jonybgud

Mr. Karate wrote: »

If the GAA was full of Nationalists then they would not have let a Muslim ceremony take place in Croke Park this past summer.

The GAA was a different organisation 100 years ago, full of aspirations and actually capable of uniting people.

Today, they are more of a religious cult, money being their almighty God.

What happened in Croke Park 100 years ago was a war crime, no different to the recent news storey about the Aussies in Afghanistan.

TheValeyard

British agents were fair game in a war against a brutal occupying power.

Civilians watching a football game are not.

mohawk

TheValeyard wrote: »

British agents were fair game in a war against a brutal occupying power.

Civilians watching a football game are not.

This really shouldn’t have to be said.

Jinglejangle69

statesaver wrote: »

They were here as willing combatants and were here to kill Michael Collins and his people.

British officials Were they here checking paper work ?

Careful.

Michael Collins was a FG blueshirt.

Something a few don't like around here.

boetstark

Stihl waters wrote: »

Wasn't the dublin goalie on the day involved in the killings that morning iirc, great men of the time, pity what the cowardly British did in retaliation

Pity those great men also shot 3 unarmed innocent civilians. I agree with the commemorations but those innocents should also have been included

James Brown

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Careful.

Michael Collins was a FG blueshirt.

Something a few don't like around here.

They don't like reminding of their terrorist roots.

Or their fascist roots...or their antisemitism...

Anyway, not a FG thread.

smurgen

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Careful.

Michael Collins was a FG blueshirt.

Something a few don't like around here.

Unless he joined it in the afterlife.:pac:

boetstark

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Fook them they deserved it.

Oh yeah he deserved it because he was a landlord of a boarding house , or maybe a British army vet or maybe even a young lad that hadn't even joined the RIC.
Get your facts you ignorant fool.

Jinglejangle69

Too easy.

Plumbthedepths

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Careful.

Michael Collins was a FG blueshirt.

Something a few don't like around here.

He wasn't actually.

Jinglejangle69

You lads are so happy to keep referring to the terrorist Michael Collins picture in the background every time FG brings up SFs terrorist links to the IRA.

So are you now saying FG don't have links to the IRA and Michael Collins????