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Ireland’s mink population to be culled for being perfectly healthy.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,517 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Hardyn wrote: »
    It's not just coats. Mink fur is used in beauty products like make up brushes and fake eyelashes.

    Isn't an eyelash or a brush just hair?
    Couldn't you just shave it rather than kill it if that were the case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    46 Long wrote: »
    Everyone has a fridge and freezer, even those living in shared accommodation or the most squalid bedsits. It's mandatory for landlords to provide one, along with an oven, microwave and access to a washing machine. If you're not renting and can't afford a fridge you should be able to get to apply for an exceptional needs payment.

    Interesting ideas. Freezers and fridges are desirable but not essential by any means. Living without is easy enough, as is living without meat or chicken

    A matter of personal choice in all these cases. As well as financial...Which all are free to male.

    And an "amazing" evasion of my point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Why does mink farming even take place? The farming of cows is necessary because food is essential. Fur is not an essential product.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Whatever we feel about the Mink cull we need to acknowledge that an end to Mink farming was a part of the programme for government.

    It's going to happen in the near future so it might as well be done when it presents a reduction of risk benefiting the public health.

    They have been saying that for nearly 20 years. Not to be believed so at least now they will be made to do it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭Eleven Benevolent Elephants


    How will it be done out of curiosity?

    Gassing?

    Are we going to take care of the wild mink too?


  • Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Thats me


    Why does mink farming even take place? The farming of cows is necessary because food is essential. Fur is not an essential product.

    Farms of cows are also not necessary and harmful for environment:
    Insects are cheap, nutritious, and—according to some supporters—delicious. There are over 2,100 edible insect species, which offers a vast array of options for food dishes. FAO states that edible insects contain high-quality protein, amino acids, vitamins, calcium, zinc, and iron for humans.

    When you have a healthy source of protein, minerals, and other important nutrients, a Michelin restaurant taste experience might arguably be a secondary priority. Consider that 100 grams of beef contain 29 grams of protein, but also 21 grams of fat. On the other hand, 100 grams of grasshopper contain 20 grams of protein and only 6 grams of fat.

    In addition to nutritional value, commercial insect production has a much smaller negative impact on the environment than traditional sources of protein. Rearing conventional livestock, for example, accounts for a staggering 18% of total greenhouse gas emissions. But insect breeding releases much less greenhouse gas, methane, and ammonia than raising cattle and pigs, and requires less water.
    (c) https://www.thebalancesmb.com/edible-insects-as-sustainable-food-alternatives-4153360


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Why does mink farming even take place? The farming of cows is necessary because food is essential. Fur is not an essential product.

    Simple. MONEY! GREED!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    How will it be done out of curiosity?

    Gassing?

    Are we going to take care of the wild mink too?

    Yes they gas them at 6 months anyways. One way is a motor bike with the exhaust into a big tank; carbon monoxide.

    Wishful thinking re the wild mink. A much harder task.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,024 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    The mink are better off to be put out of their miserable conditions, it is about time that practice is ended


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Isn't an eyelash or a brush just hair?
    Couldn't you just shave it rather than kill it if that were the case?

    They have teeth.... Much " easier" to kill them than to shave them and these folk go for the easy way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Gradius


    Here's what it boils down to:

    You want your cheap Chinese labour and products, then you deal with the consequences.

    So you bought a cheap plug for 50c out of the poundshop. Was it worth it for the life you're forced into now?

    It's getting time to seriously change course on how commerce is conducted around the world. We can't keep this pace of destruction up to save a euro, with people, animals and the environment dying.

    What about the next killer disease? When is that due? The answer is at any moment. There have already been a few scares during THIS pandemic.

    Things must change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Are you a vegan or an "animal lover" on a crusade?

    Anyway, to answer your question - no, of course not.

    I like a good steak, a good burger, a nice bit of roast beef, and bolognese and other stuff made from minced beef too. I like pig meat in all its forms. Not a huge lover of lamb myself, but I know a huge number of people like it too. So else are we going to get all these tasty foods?

    You are evading the question. Many prefer their animals alive and happy. Crusading? Yes you are...but of course there is room for both views and no one should be naysaying the other views. My choice is as little meat as possible. Preferably none.. I love to see cows and sheep alive and thriving. Yours is different. OK? OK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    gozunda wrote: »
    What logic says invading aliens would be in anyway morally superior to us? Why would they turn up like some intergalactic Judge Judy TV show?

    Aliens arriving here ard just as likley to take and plunder what they can and feck off. Or make off with all our crops and farmed animals for themselves. And probably result in doing pretty much the same as what happens in the industrial production of crops which results in millions of wild animals and other organisms being killed during cultivation and harvesting. And no the majority of crops aren't grown for animals - as farm animals, pets, horses etc get fed the left overs of the human food industry when they're not eating grass or similar. Not too sure what the aliens would do with the left overs...

    Are we bad guys or the good guys? I'd reckon its nowhere as black or white as that tbh. What we are - is the dominant species on the planet atm. I'm sure we won't be the last....

    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Do go to Radio Kerry and read the news... Michael Healy Rae is giving his opinion on the mink cull with his usual …..No need to cull as there is no sign of infection.

    Over and out from me on this topic! After that there really is no more to say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Graces7 wrote: »
    :eek:

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Thats me wrote: »
    Farms of cows are also not necessary and harmful for environment:


    (c) https://www.thebalancesmb.com/edible-insects-as-sustainable-food-alternatives-4153360

    Expecting most people to eat insects instead of meat?! Pull the other one!


  • Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Thats me


    Expecting most people to eat insects instead of meat?! Pull the other one!


    Expecting most people to wear plastic coats instead of mink coats?! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    I cant stress this enough. as someone who hunts and seen the damage mink can do they shouldn't be here in the first place. farmed or wild. they've no place here. Cull them all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,592 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I cant stress this enough. as someone who hunts and seen the damage mink can do they shouldn't be here in the first place. farmed or wild. they've no place here. Cull them all.

    You are correct that they do a lot of damage and they shouldn't be here but the task of culling them would be very labour intensive.

    As they are a territorial animal killing one just opens up space for another to thrive.

    It would need to be a national eradication programme to work.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jobs for nobody fur coats for everyone

    Not fur coats. Mink eyelashes are the in thing. https://www.her.ie/beauty/ten-things-i-learned-when-i-got-mink-lashes-for-the-first-time-390625


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Thats me wrote: »
    Expecting most people to wear plastic coats instead of mink coats?! :cool:

    Well plastic certainly ain't good for the environment or animals

    https://friendsoftheearth.uk/plastics

    I'd suggest maybe find yourself something not made from fossil fuel ...


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