Why are so many people still going to work

lemonTrees

km991148 wrote: »

Lol.. yes it's all down in tallaght etc..

Never any dinner parties in clontarf or a sneaky like gathering in Terenure now is there?

Poster is all over the forum bashing people in social housing and working class areas.

I wouldn't bother.

ixoy

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

If you're still alive 8 months later without it, then no it wasn't.

Jesus, so if a missed medical appointment didn't result in death, it's not essential? You can't possibly be serious (and that's aside from the fact you completely missed what the poster was saying).

weldoninhio

I'd say it's because people can now see through the fear and propaganda and realise that this bug is nowhere near as "deadly" as we were, and continue to be, told it was.

kkelly77

Paxton Great Mirage wrote: »

I had a medical appointment this morning so was out on the road about 8ish. The traffic going in towards town was unbelievable. They couldn't possibly all have been essential workers. The last time we were asked to only go into work if our work was both essential and couldn't be done from home there was huge compliance. But now there seems to be huge ignoring of this restriction and apparently workplaces are one of the causes of figures starting to rise again.

Looking at the chart attached, it doesn't look like there's a problem to me. Especially when the HSE released a report a few weeks ago stating that only 99 people have died directly from covid 1984.

Eircom_Sucks

ixoy wrote: »

But they're allowed open for selling essential goods, such as electric items. Why wouldn't they be open?

but yet they are still taking sales off suites of furniture

what can be that essential in there ? kettle ? tv ?

cop on

awec

Was in a shopping centre yesterday picking something up and it was well organised. Everyone wearing masks, everyone distancing, hand santising going on, hard to see any issue with it.

Glad for the staff in the shops that were open that there is sufficient trade for them to keep earning a wage, and glad that not everyone is defaulting to giving all their money to Amazon right now.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

If you're still alive 8 months later without it, then no it wasn't.

Yeah I get that it may be a diagnostic test for a cancer or some such (I've missed a follow-up screening myself).

But there are degrees of essentialism.

Are you being serous??????

Eircom_Sucks

Eircom_Sucks wrote: »

but yet they are still taking sales off suites of furniture

what can be that essential in there ? kettle ? tv ?

cop on

by the way i'm all for businesses being open

was merely replying to the volume of people about thats all

km991148

Fred Cryton wrote: »

D4 and D6 have the lowest incident rate in Dublin. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

now now, no need to be so tetchy..

You can be as cute with the figure if you want but on an area by area basis, there are house parties and there are cases attributed to them.


Some other cases will also be attributed to certain areas caring less or housing density or other socio economic factors. But to say gatherings only happen in areas you don't like is downright naive.

Thats me

awec wrote: »

Was in a shopping centre yesterday picking something up and it was well organised. Everyone wearing masks, everyone distancing, hand santising going on, hard to see any issue with it.

Glad to hear they are OK. Didn't see them for months. Next time when you will be there, say them hello from happy Tesco customers who do not need to physicaly visit a shop because of delivery option.

awec wrote: »

Glad for the staff in the shops that were open that there is sufficient trade for them to keep earning a wage, and glad that not everyone is defaulting to giving all their money to Amazon right now.

Even with no Covid buying on Amazon was more affordable. Now it has additional advantage since it helps customers to minimise visiting public places. I see no reason to be worried about Irish businesses which are failing to offer competitive prices and even unable to organise online shopping and delivery.

Ginger n Lemon

Wow - what a thread. People are outraged about others getting in their car and driving.

I can see a thread starting in January "Why are so many people still going to Aldi"

millb

AssetBacked2 wrote: »

That's quite a self-righteous, unpleasant and begrudging statement to make.

Some people have no real choice, some people are cracking up and desperate, others are selfish and some are misguided. Some have been good 90% of the time, some good 95% of the time, some 50% of the time.

Nobody is perfect, most people have judgement, and some self-righteous people are almost perfect and want to show that they are more perfectest and correct and others are not correctest..

There will be a vaccine soon so let's celebrate tonight..

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Wow - what a thread. People are outraged about others getting in their car and driving.

I can see a thread starting in January "Why are so many people still going to Aldi"

No one's 'outraged' and this thread isn't about people getting in their cars and driving.

And since when have people been asked not to go to Aldi????

Ginger n Lemon

Paxton Great Mirage wrote: »

No one's 'outraged' and this thread isn't about people getting in their cars and driving.

And since when have people been asked not to go to Aldi????

Yeah it is. This thread is about the number of cars going into Cork at 8 AM. And a whole lot of speculation as to why that occurs.

Surely they cant all be :rolleyes:

Thats me

Paxton Great Mirage wrote: »

And since when have people been asked not to go to Aldi????

People was asked to minise social contacts, limit their travel to really essential, limit visiting public places. But be sure, in any society you will have plenty of idiots who are unable to plan their beings for at least one week ahead to buy everything needed over single shop visit (if by some reason delivery is not an option in their area) and have to call shops more often "picking something up".

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Oh right, sorry Gingersnlemon. I thought I started this thread about why so
many people seem to be ignoring level 5 restrictions re going into work. Must be thinking of another thread.

normanoffside

I go to the office every day for my own sanity.



There are normally 2 or 3 other people in the building but on completely different floors. I don't interact with anyone.
I'm the only one in on my own floor, I share toilets, computers, desks etc with nobody.

I can't see what harm I'm doing and am using my own common sense to give myself a bit of a routine and sense of purpose.

I couldn't care less what NPHET say to be quite honest.

I see sheep

I saw some bastard walking his dog yesterday.

Mrs OBumble

Paxton Great Mirage wrote: »

Are you being serous??????

Absolutely.

The OP is giving out about "people" going to work - but the doctors, nurses, administration staff and cleaners required for the appointment s/he survived without for 8 months are somehow OK.

To be clear; of course medical appointments should be happening- by video call if possible. Ditto lawyer, counsellor, banker, etc appointments.

But don't expect empty roads if they are.

Paxton Great Mirage

Paxton Great Mirage wrote: »

Oh right, sorry Gingersnlemon. I thought I started this thread about why so
many people seem to be ignoring level 5 restrictions re going into work. Must be thinking of another thread.

How in the name of Jaysus do you know what other peoples business is in town? It's also no concern of yours.

zf0wqv9oemuasj

normanoffside wrote: »

I go to the office every day for my own sanity.



There are normally 2 or 3 other people in the building but on completely different floors. I don't interact with anyone.
I'm the only one in on my own floor, I share toilets, computers, desks etc with nobody.

I can't see what harm I'm doing and am using my own common sense to give myself a bit of a routine and sense of purpose.

I couldn't care less what NPHET say to be quite honest.

I don't understand how people can prefer wasting time commuting (and money), getting ready for work, commuting home and so on than working from home. I have been in 3 weeks since early march (all in august/sept) and I found it painful compared to working from home. Its a pity that as soon as restrictions are lifted that our bosses will start telling us to come back in the majority of the time, because they appear to think we want to for some unknown reason!

I know some people are being forced into work which is madness but I really don't get folks choosing to go in, aside from the fact its against the restrictions and so on, working form home is so much better.

awec

Sylas Uninterested Peppercorn wrote: »

I don't understand how people can prefer wasting time commuting (and money), getting ready for work, commuting home and so on than working from home. I have been in 3 weeks since early march (all in august/sept) and I found it painful compared to working from home. Its a pity that as soon as restrictions are lifted that our bosses will start telling us to come back in the majority of the time, because they appear to think we want to for some unknown reason!

I know some people are being forced into work which is madness but I really don't get folks choosing to go in, aside from the fact its against the restrictions and so on, working form home is so much better.

Everyone is different.

For some, being at work could literally be the only face-to-face interaction with another person that they have. Maybe they have young kids at home so working with them around is impossible. Maybe they don't have adequate space to work effectively from home. Maybe they just find it difficult to focus on work if they're at home.

drunkmonkey

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

To be clear; of course medical appointments should be happening- by video call if possible

What a time to be a gynecologist..

FintanMcluskey

Sylas Uninterested Peppercorn wrote: »

I don't understand how people can prefer wasting time commuting (and money), getting ready for work, commuting home and so on than working from home. I have been in 3 weeks since early march (all in august/sept) and I found it painful compared to working from home. Its a pity that as soon as restrictions are lifted that our bosses will start telling us to come back in the majority of the time, because they appear to think we want to for some unknown reason!

I know some people are being forced into work which is madness but I really don't get folks choosing to go in, aside from the fact its against the restrictions and so on, working form home is so much better.

The thing is people are different.

Working from home would have a profound effect on my mental health. I love going to work, and really enjoy my work.

Working from home would be a huge loss of stimulation for me, both mentally and socially.

Work eat sleep TV and repeat for 30+ years all in the house the bank owns until I’m not longer fit to work. Fcuk that

I find it bizarre anyone would be in favour of what working from home involves but I do understand everyone is different

Because OP, to put it simply, nobody gives a ****.

jrosen

Lots of people have less than ideal work from home situations. Some could have small kids at home, others poor internet. Some people really just struggle to work productively from home. If people are following guidelines while at work I dont see the issue.
This lock down is nothing like last which Im sure most people can see for themselves. There are lots of layers to different industries. All construction and trades are working which means all the associated stores/warehouses are also open. All schools/childcare and pre schools are also open which means teachers/staff are all on the road.

All support services are back, albeit with delays but OT, Physical therapists are also all back working. Clinics and screenings are back.
Manufacturing are also all back.

Its to be expected to see people on the road

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Deleted User wrote: »

How in the name of Jaysus do you know what other peoples business is in town? It's also no concern of yours.

It is everyone's business if employers are ignoring level 5 restrictions.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Absolutely.

The OP is giving out about "people" going to work - but the doctors, nurses, administration staff and cleaners required for the appointment s/he survived without for 8 months are somehow OK.

To be clear; of course medical appointments should be happening- by video call if possible. Ditto lawyer, counsellor, banker, etc appointments.

But don't expect empty roads if they are.

I actually wondered why people were ignoring the restriction which said that people should only go to work if their work is essential and can't be done from home. How does that equate to me implying that hospital staff shouldn't go to work?

jrosen

Paxton Great Mirage wrote: »

It is everyone's business if employers are ignoring level 5 restrictions.

Your making assumptions. Your assuming people were on the road out of choice. As if all those people get up and drive to sit in traffic for fun,

zerosugarbuzz

s1ippy wrote: »

Yeah I've a feeling it's probably more than just those three industries based on the movement in and out of Cork City.

Still going to work, I know people working in pharma, upholstery, computer shops, the legal profession, counselling and supermarkets.

Pharma, fair enough.

Furniture and computer shops, ridiculous.

Legal profession, counsellors, should all be online but if your boss says ye're open, ye're open.

Personally I don't see why shopping centres need to be open and why they can't just do click and collect on a bigger scale but then I saw the demographics attending Lidl when I was getting in my 5k yesterday and those people all looked like they badly need an excuse to get out of the house. Hopefully it's correct that they're not areas with a lot of spread.

Have to say, the volume of traffic in the evenings really confuses us. Where are so many people in such an insane rush to at 9pm?

My question is why is s1ippy out and about so much monitoring traffic, should s1ppy not be staying at home as advised?

growleaves

Sylas Uninterested Peppercorn wrote: »

I don't understand how people can prefer wasting time commuting (and money), getting ready for work, commuting home and so on than working from home. I have been in 3 weeks since early march (all in august/sept) and I found it painful compared to working from home. Its a pity that as soon as restrictions are lifted that our bosses will start telling us to come back in the majority of the time, because they appear to think we want to for some unknown reason!

I know some people are being forced into work which is madness but I really don't get folks choosing to go in, aside from the fact its against the restrictions and so on, working form home is so much better.

People need to step up and negotiate with their employer, persuade them that w.f.h. is better, if that's what they want.

SusanC10

We took our Kids off the School Bus this school year due to the Virus. So, we now drive them. But for the school run neither of us would be on the road daily.

On the WFH, my Husband has been here at home since March. We are lucky and have a room we use as a home office so he has his own dedicated space. His office sent out all the necessary equipment to him and we already had a decent desk.
Pre-Pandemic he would have spent 3 hours a day commuting on Public Transport. He has no desire to go back to that 5 days a week ever.
He loves spending more time with the kids and having more free time at home.

_Brian

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Schools are open. How do you think the kids get to school.

Construction is open.

Manufacturing is open.

Exactly.
These are your rush hour commuters.

j@utis

20% unemployment rate isn't enough yet? Well, if we keep going this way (lockdowns, printing money), it might get worse and the roads then will be emptier? Did you to your appointment on time, btw?

Rubberchikken

I love to be able to work from home but just can't.

Billgirlylegs

Paxton Great Mirage wrote: »

I actually wondered why people were ignoring the restriction which said that people should only go to work if their work is essential and can't be done from home. How does that equate to me implying that hospital staff shouldn't go to work?

Some people have found that working from home does not work out long term.
they could carry on in limited fashion but not everything is possible at home or away from colleagues.

That makes their attendance at the office essential.

SuperRabbit

Billgirlylegs wrote: »

Some people have found that working from home does not work out long term.
they could carry on in limited fashion but not everything is possible at home or away from colleagues.

That makes their attendance at the office essential.

No.... if you are a graphic designer and you can't work from home because the internet cables are broken where you live, you still aren't an essential worker because you are a graphic designer.

There are loads of people going to the office because loads of offices have to be open in order to support essential workers or support people working from home (i couldn't teach from home if the manager of the school wasn't in the office to sort everything a few days a week, so she is allowed in). . Otherwise offices are supposed to be closed, right?

drunkmonkey

SuperRabbit wrote: »

Otherwise offices are supposed to be closed, right?

Yes and your always meant to use the zebra crossing the road. I think people are really confused about what restrictions they are living under and what restrictions people are really living under.

nofools

road_high wrote: »

But perfectly sums up the woke Corona-atti with their virtue signalling, faux outrage and moral superiority

This is the funniest most ironic thing i have seen in a while.

screamer

_Brian wrote: »

Exactly.
These are your rush hour commuters.

Construction is it not rush hour traffic, most start at 7.30am they’re gone by 4 pm. Office based guys work 7.30 am to god knows what time, usually 12 hour days. Construction is not adding to rush hour.

There are many workers who can work from home who are not being permitted to do so by their employers, there’s your rush hour, non essential commuters.

bladespin

Paxton Great Mirage wrote: »

It is everyone's business if employers are ignoring level 5 restrictions.

Assume much???

Mrs OBumble

SuperRabbit wrote: »

No.... if you are a graphic designer and you can't work from home because the internet cables are broken where you live, you still aren't an essential worker because you are a graphic designer.

There are loads of people going to the office because loads of offices have to be open in order to support essential workers or support people working from home (i couldn't teach from home if the manager of the school wasn't in the office to sort everything a few days a week, so she is allowed in). . Otherwise offices are supposed to be closed, right?

Ironically, lots of graphic design has been required for public health information and signage. Some graphic designers absolutely are essential workers.

SuperRabbit

I didn't think of that! I guess most of them are working from home but if they can't they can go into the office to make their pretty yellow signs there since they are essential.. yeah

Thats me

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Ironically, lots of graphic design has been required for public health information and signage. Some graphic designers absolutely are essential workers.

What you prefer for yourself - to have professionally made beautiful signage or to have shorter duration of lockdown?

SuperRabbit

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Yes and your always meant to use the zebra crossing the road. I think people are really confused about what restrictions they are living under and what restrictions people are really living under.

Monkey, you don't have to use the Zebra but could you please, when looking right and left, look out for all sorts of vehicles and not just scan for cars: if you look for cars you won't see scooters, badgers, motorbikes, bicycles, ponies, joggers etc. Please, tell a friend

3d4life

SuperRabbit wrote: »

Monkey, you don't have to use the Zebra but could you please, when looking right and left, look out for all sorts of vehicles and not just scan for cars: if you look for cars you won't see scooters, badgers, motorbikes, bicycles, ponies, joggers etc. Please, tell a friend

SuperRabbit, its nice to find a modest poster such as yourself. Let me add to your list :



and Rabbits

SuperRabbit

SuperRabbit wrote: »

Vast majority of counselling is taking place online, many people can't do counselling online for a wide range of reasons and it is absolutely an essential service. Can we not shame people trying to take care of their mental health?

I don't understand why adult education is open in level 3, 10 people in a room 5 days a week 6 hours a day (8 hours for the teacher) that's my one that bugs me, I guess everyone has something they disagree with. Adults can learn online, you don't need privacy or anything you just need a 30 euro smart phone and internet. I think when the government decided to leave adult education open in level 3 they were thinking of people going to small evening classes once or twice a week and forgot about all the other types of adult ed.

I think this is really hypocritical. Yes mental health services are very important and you were quick to point this out. Why then can't you afford the same understanding to those engaged in adult education? No doubt there are situations that one person is annoyed by and another isn't. There's a few that bother me but I'm not going to assume that my needs are greater.

Paxton Great Mirage

Paxton Great Mirage wrote: »

It is everyone's business if employers are ignoring level 5 restrictions.

I think our focus needs to be on ourselves and what we can do. Always looking to others and getting annoyed or outraged isn't good for the head.

beggars_bush

Traffic was very heavy this morning.
Even compared to non lockdown times

Greyfox

Rubberchikken wrote: »

I love to be able to work from home but just can't.

I use to think that. I have the option and now choose to go to work as i need interaction with people.