Do you think movies these days are mostly garbage

Hqrry113

Bambi wrote: »

Midsommar is great considering the director is in his 30s and its only his second film, the biggest problem is...hes in his 30's and its only his second film so it has the same faults as his first film, bit too full of itself

Some people still spunk themsevles over it because the reviews said that they should.

I thought that movie was awful, I'd like to give more of a reason why I didn't like it but I can barely remember it.

As far as I can remember I was tricked into the theater there was no mention of it being more of a romance film than anything else.

I thought hereditary was really good but this film was a joke.

Hqrry113

Homelander wrote: »

Don't agree at all. I've seen no end of top notch, fantastic films the past few years.

People tend to strangely conflate "what gets released in the cinema" with the general state of the film industry.

If anything, thanks to streaming services and digital media, we can access more and more "good" films than ever before.

I usually watch one film a week, generally considering I go by a mix of RT scores and relevant user reviews, I'd say almost every movie I've watched this year has been excellent.

Films of the year so far for me are probably Possessor Uncut, Relic, The Painted Bird and Midsommar. But generally I've seen at least 30 I'd consider very good, and then probably 10 or so that are downright excellent.

Platform and Devil All the Time on Netflix are both very good too. I have a backlog of about 25 movies from this year still to watch.

I don't agree, although there have been some good movies released the last few years the quality and quantity of them is down dramatically.

If you look at the 90s there are masterpieces being released every year while nowadays it's one masterpiece produced every few years with a bunch of good/decent movies each year (apart from 2020).

Capt'n Midnight

Mad_maxx wrote: »

What is " Tollywood " ?

I know Bollywood is the Indian industry

Telugu, south Indi. It's a big country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVRVr4ycuew

From Alluda Majaka.

Capt'n Midnight

neris wrote: »

There doesnt seem to any great scrpit writing or story lines anymore apart from the odd one. theres way too many of these "superhero" type franchise movies or multiple lame follow ons

These days all the big box office movies fall into one or more categories.

New movie from a franchise with a huge audience in other media. Games, bestseller book series, Toys, TV series.

Sequels.

Remakes.


Big budget animation some of which have original stories.

You have to go back to Armageddon in 1998 where the
High-grossing films by year of release was an an original story that wasn't animation. And Deep Impact was released at the same time so maybe not so original.

Avatar is Pocahontas and animation

breezy1985

Hyperbollix wrote: »

I'm not sure why that would be contentious. The people producing shows like Picard are hacks. But they are smart hacks who know the way the cultural wind is blowing and they are going to flog that social justice horse to death if they think there's a buck in it.

Also, it's not very woke of you to launch personal attacks on me. You wouldn't want to trigger me now or anything.

I don't really worry about triggering people. Especially ones who use stupid terms like SJW and woke

dxhound2005

The James Bond films have improved with the more recent releases. The ones from the old days have not stood the test of time.

Jinglejangle69

Terminator 1 and 2.
Aliens.
Predator.


Simple fact is they don't make them like they used too.

dxhound2005

This is from a different context, but it goes to show the nonsense that "everything was better in my day" is a recurring theme down the ages. This is from 1967, which some people probably look back to as a sort of Golden Age.

It is unfortunate but true that during the last 20 years or so there has been a steady decline in general standards of behaviour and what can
only be called " the attitude of the individual." History shows that this is one of the results of war and its aftermath, when all sorts of things are done for reasons of expediency or in the exigencies of the moment. Inevitably, this tends to engender an off -hand attitude to what is right, carried on into the day-to-day life of too many individuals. In the end, it becomes the done thing to " work a quick one if you can get away with it." This leads to a deterioration
of standards generally, as evidenced (to quote only one example) by the coarse vulgarity of much of what is shown on TV, and the witless ignorance of many people whose opinions are publicised merely because they happen to be notorious.

breezy1985

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Terminator 1 and 2.
Aliens.
Predator.


Simple fact is they don't make them like they used too.

Personally I love those movies way more than any super hero stuff but honestly there is nothing about them artistically that makes them better than the Avengers. Especially Predator

FunLover18

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The James Bond films have improved with the more recent releases. The ones from the old days have not stood the test of time.

Maybe in general but I watched Dr No following nthe passing of Connery and it is milles better than the drivel that was Spectre.

The OP seems to suggest that action and comedy movies can't have a good story which I fundamentally disagree with.

This is nonense about the glut of superhero films is also just that, they have huge marketing budgets and they're money makers but they make up a tiny percentage of the number of films that come out per year. Someone bemoaned the lack of westerns while also bemoaning the superhero movies, westerns were once two a penny, you couldn't move for westerns. These things come and go.

Hqrry113

breezy1985 wrote: »

Personally I love those movies way more than any super hero stuff but honestly there is nothing about them artistically that makes them better than the Avengers. Especially Predator

I'd go more along the lines of these films from the 90s

American history X
The shawshank redemption
Fight club
The matrix
Goodfellas
Seven
Reservoir Dogs
Terminator 2
The Sixth Sense
Saving Private Ryan
The Green Mile
Casino
The Usual suspects
Pulp Fiction

There's far too many to list they don't make them like this anymore, in terms of these movies time makes no difference at all.

breezy1985

FunLover18 wrote: »

Maybe in general but I watched Dr No following nthe passing of Connery and it is milles better than the drivel that was Spectre.

The OP seems to suggest that action and comedy movies can't have a good story which I fundamentally disagree with.

This is nonense about the glut of superhero films is also just that, they have huge marketing budgets and they're money makers but they make up a tiny percentage of the number of films that come out per year. Someone bemoaned the lack of westerns while also bemoaning the superhero movies, westerns were once two a penny, you couldn't move for westerns. These things come and go.

I hate the new Bonds. They are the only movies where I don't really want depth or deep stories I just want a martini drinking gun shooting spy with wild gadgets. New Bond is a sad lonely Heineken (corporate sponsors) drinking bore with mammy issues

breezy1985

Hqrry113 wrote: »

I'd go more along the lines of these films from the 90s

American history X
The shawshank redemption
Fight club
The matrix
Goodfellas
Seven
Reservoir Dogs
Terminator 2
The Sixth Sense
Saving Private Ryan
The Green Mile
Casino
The Usual suspects
Pulp Fiction

There's far too many to list they don't make them like this anymore, in terms of these movies time makes no difference at all.

Watched American History X a few weeks back and it's incredibly 90s looking the way it's shot. Great story but the execution has dated terribly and still well worth a watch. Couple there I think are overrated like The Matrix and Fight club but Saving Private Ryan and the Green Mile are excellent and Ide add Jurassic Park to that.

The 90s were definitely a good time for movies with films added to the classic list across multiple genres similar to TV in recent years.

Hqrry113

breezy1985 wrote: »

Watched American History X a few weeks back and it's incredibly 90s looking the way it's shot. Great story but the execution has dated terribly and still well worth a watch. Couple there I think are overrated like The Matrix and Fight club but Saving Private Ryan and the Green Mile are excellent and Ide add Jurassic Park to that.

The 90s were definitely a good time for movies with films added to the classic list across multiple genres similar to TV in recent years.

I only watched American history X again a few weeks ago I don't agree at all, you'll find a lot modern drama/thrillers being shot in the exact same way.

El_Duderino 09

breezy1985 wrote: »

I hate the new Bonds. They are the only movies where I don't really want depth or deep stories I just want a martini drinking gun shooting spy with wild gadgets. New Bond is a sad lonely Heineken (corporate sponsors) drinking bore with mammy issues

Sure. Old Bond drank Martinis because he wanted to and wasn’t a corporate sponsorship deal? As if advertising has only been invented recently.

I think this sums it up beautifully. Some people see the old films with nostalgia, modern films with cynicism. And then wonder why they think the new films aren’t as good.

Fuascailteoir

breezy1985 wrote: »

Watched American History X a few weeks back and it's incredibly 90s looking the way it's shot. Great story but the execution has dated terribly and still well worth a watch. Couple there I think are overrated like The Matrix and Fight club but Saving Private Ryan and the Green Mile are excellent and Ide add Jurassic Park to that.

The 90s were definitely a good time for movies with films added to the classic list across multiple genres similar to TV in recent years.

There had been nothing like the matrix previously.

breezy1985

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Sure. Old Bond drank Martinis because he wanted to and wasn’t a corporate sponsorship deal? As if advertising has only been invented recently.

I think this sums it up beautifully. Some people see the old films with nostalgia, modern films with cynicism. And then wonder why they think the new films aren’t as good.

I have been fighting the anti-nostalgia corner and sticking up for the new stuff all through this thread. But specifically when it comes to Bond I am after camp action so new Bond doesnt do it for me and I also find all this who will be the next Bond stuff so tedious and over hyped

Fuascailteoir wrote: »

There had been nothing like the matrix previously.

I get why it was popular at the time but a bit like Avatar its not something I ever bothered watching again

Hqrry113 wrote: »

I only watched American history X again a few weeks ago I don't agree at all, you'll find a lot modern drama/thrillers being shot in the exact same way.

It was just something about the low budget cam and the black & white scenes made it seem very 90s

El_Duderino 09

breezy1985 wrote: »

I have been fighting the anti-nostalgia corner and sticking up for the new stuff all through this thread. But specifically when it comes to Bond I am after camp action so new Bond doesnt do it for me and I also find all this who will be the next Bond stuff so tedious and over hyped
...

Ah yeah but it’s very hard to make the argument that bond is corporate now because his drink of choice is an advert when the original bond also drank a sponsored drink and drove a sponsored car.

breezy1985

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Ah yeah but it’s very hard to make the argument that bond is corporate now because his drink of choice is an advert when the original bond also drank a sponsored drink and drove a sponsored car.

Maybe I was just too young to remember the old Bonds advertising but the media and hype machine around current Bond is way beyond most other films

FunLover18

breezy1985 wrote: »

Maybe I was just too young to remember the old Bonds advertising but the media and hype machine around current Bond is way beyond most other films

Sean Connery wasn't doing Heineken ads but Bond playing devil's advocate Bond has always mentioned specific brands but this also has roots in the books as Fleming was big on portrayinh Bond as a man of taste. We'll never know what he imagined Bond's favourite beer to be but Heineken was the highest bidder. But putting all the corporate shilling aside the new films are obsessed with giving Bond as much backstory as possible that ties him personally to every villain in Craig's era so far.

breezy1985

FunLover18 wrote: »

Sean Connery wasn't doing Heineken ads but Bond playing devil's advocate Bond has always mentioned specific brands but this also has roots in the books as Fleming was big on portrayinh Bond as a man of taste. We'll never know what he imagined Bond's favourite beer to be but Heineken was the highest bidder. But putting all the corporate shilling aside the new films are obsessed with giving Bond as much backstory as possible that ties him personally to every villain in Craig's era so far.

Ya the backstory stuff aint for me. Ill happily take crazy space station builders and Christopher Walken not doing Irish accents

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

breezy1985 wrote: »

I hate the new Bonds. They are the only movies where I don't really want depth or deep stories I just want a martini drinking gun shooting spy with wild gadgets. New Bond is a sad lonely Heineken (corporate sponsors) drinking bore with mammy issues

You're watching Archer. Not Bond. Schoolboy error.

Dyr

Fuascailteoir wrote: »

There had been nothing like the matrix previously.

Dark City
Strange Days
Ghost in the Shell

46 Long

FunLover18 wrote: »

Sean Connery wasn't doing Heineken ads but Bond playing devil's advocate Bond has always mentioned specific brands but this also has roots in the books as Fleming was big on portrayinh Bond as a man of taste. We'll never know what he imagined Bond's favourite beer to be but Heineken was the highest bidder. But putting all the corporate shilling aside the new films are obsessed with giving Bond as much backstory as possible that ties him personally to every villain in Craig's era so far.

Löwenbräu, Red Stripe and Miller are all mentioned in the books.

Potential-Monke

I seem to be the opposite to most insofar as I love the Marvel/Superhero movies and don't really like the more realistic ones. To me, a movie should take me out of reality and bring me into their world. Sometimes, their world is a realistic version and I like it, but most of the time I prefer pew pew and dimensions and time travel and all the other stuff that's not possible in real life.

Most Oscar films I wouldn't even watch, and I simply detest films that require you to be a professional at finding hidden meanings behind stuff. The art house films especially, can't stand them.

I also cannot watch anything with certain actors in them, ie: Ryan Gosling, Charlie Day. So the last few years have been good to me with all the superhero films, and my travel into anime has given me even more amazing films to watch.

breezy1985

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I seem to be the opposite to most insofar as I love the Marvel/Superhero movies and don't really like the more realistic ones. To me, a movie should take me out of reality and bring me into their world. Sometimes, their world is a realistic version and I like it, but most of the time I prefer pew pew and dimensions and time travel and all the other stuff that's not possible in real life.

Most Oscar films I wouldn't even watch, and I simply detest films that require you to be a professional at finding hidden meanings behind stuff. The art house films especially, can't stand them.

I also cannot watch anything with certain actors in them, ie: Ryan Gosling, Charlie Day. So the last few years have been good to me with all the superhero films, and my travel into anime has given me even more amazing films to watch.

Gosling was brilliant before he became a sex symbol but maybe not your thing as he was a bit arty and I'll forever love Charlie Day for always sunny but his movies don't do much for me

Hqrry113

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I seem to be the opposite to most insofar as I love the Marvel/Superhero movies and don't really like the more realistic ones. To me, a movie should take me out of reality and bring me into their world. Sometimes, their world is a realistic version and I like it, but most of the time I prefer pew pew and dimensions and time travel and all the other stuff that's not possible in real life.

Most Oscar films I wouldn't even watch, and I simply detest films that require you to be a professional at finding hidden meanings behind stuff. The art house films especially, can't stand them.

I also cannot watch anything with certain actors in them, ie: Ryan Gosling, Charlie Day. So the last few years have been good to me with all the superhero films, and my travel into anime has given me even more amazing films to watch.

You sound like me as a child but as I got older them movies don't do it for me anymore.

breezy1985

Hqrry113 wrote: »

You sound like me as a child but as I got older them movies don't do it for me anymore.

I'm actually going the other way. I'm less into the art house as I get older. After a while a lot of it is just the same stuff rehashed especially the coming of age movies

Hqrry113

breezy1985 wrote: »

I'm actually going the other way. I'm less into the art house as I get older. After a while a lot of it is just the same stuff rehashed especially the coming of age movies

I don't even know what arthouse is I was referring to a love for action flicks and superhero stuff, nowadays it takes a lot more to make a movie interesting for me.

breezy1985

Hqrry113 wrote: »

I don't even know what arthouse is I was referring to a love for action flicks and superhero stuff, nowadays it takes a lot more to make a movie interesting for me.

Ah fair enough i thought you were referring to a different part of the post.