Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

wassie

innrain wrote: »

I think MightyMunster speaks from the owner perspective and not the employee. and there is no BIK for the next 17 months if new <50k pre grants. The window closes on this though as 17 months go fast and your facing a 20+% of the said value as BIK for every year of use
As an rough example EV price 50k. BIK lets say 20% -> 10k on top of your personal annual income that could get you a tax bill of 4k per year. There are benefits though so is up to you if it's worth it.

This is the worst case scenario - There are rumours that the BIK exemptions on EVs will be extended beyond 2022 in some form to assist meeting our CO2 targets. We wont know for sure until this years Budget is handed down. Thread on BIK & EVs here.

innrain

I don't think so. The cheaper one is 49k after so at least 54k before grants. BIK would be on the 4k or whatever is over 50k I'm not saying owner is not liable to BIK as any employee. Im saying no other employee would take a salary sacrifice to pay a company car unless they own the company. Or at least this is what I guessed the OP was referring to.

Kramer

Petetheroadie wrote: »

How come you're getting rid of your Model 3 Kramer? Is it listed anywhere?

Just devilment :pac:.

Mrs. K saw a new blue one & I said it was a long range model. She asked if they were much dearer, which I took to mean she wanted it :pac:.
We were actually in Sandyford today & it may happen, but it's not listed anywhere.

We do tend to change cars too frequently. Our new Ioniq went after just a year too.

Grand drive down the M7 to Limerick. 220km at mostly 120km/h, no need to stop for a charge, consumption 16kWh/100km.

Lots of Model 3s driving out with new owners from Sandyford too :eek:.
Well wear to anyone here collecting today!

AndyBoBandy

Kramer wrote: »

Grand drive down the M7 to Limerick. 220km at mostly 120km/h, no need to stop for a charge, consumption 16kWh/100km.

I’ve been finding my consumption lately driving at 120km/h has been 16kWh/100km which is just fantastic efficiency.

wassie

Yep - what a difference six months makes.

innrain

Kramer wrote: »

Just devilment :pac:.

Mrs. K saw a new blue one & I said it was a long range model. She asked if they were much dearer, which I took to mean she wanted it :pac:.
We were actually in Sandyford today & it may happen, but it's not listed anywhere.

We do tend to change cars too frequently. Our new Ioniq went after just a year too.

Grand drive down the M7 to Limerick. 220km at mostly 120km/h, no need to stop for a charge, consumption 16kWh/100km.

Lots of Model 3s driving out with new owners from Sandyford too :eek:.
Well wear to anyone here collecting today!

Any signs of works for the SuC around there?

Gumbo

innrain wrote: »

Any signs of works for the SuC around there?

They only got planning last month. There’s still an appeal period and then construction. Expect it to be later in the year.

mfceiling

Went to my local circle k today to charge.

Was on 27% and after 44 minutes on the 50kw charger I went to 67% at a cost of €11.33.

That's not great is it? Not giving me much faith when I'm relying on the public network next year.

That's approximately 100 miles added.

With diesel at 139.9 a litre, and an average diesel doing 50 mpg then that is a similar figure.

silver_sky

mfceiling wrote: »

Went to my local circle k today to charge.

Was on 27% and after 44 minutes on the 50kw charger I went to 67% at a cost of €11.33.

That's not great is it? Not giving me much faith when I'm relying on the public network next year.

That's approximately 100 miles added.

With diesel at 139.9 a litre, and an average diesel doing 50 mpg then that is a similar figure.

Is that on esb? Sounds like you might have gotten hit with the overstay penalty. Check your account

mfceiling

silver_sky wrote: »

Is that on esb? Sounds like you might have gotten hit with the overstay penalty. Check your account

Definitely didn't get hit with the overstay. Stopped the timer on 44 minutes...was keeping an eye on my time on the ESB app!!

Kramer

silver_sky wrote: »

Is that on esb? Sounds like you might have gotten hit with the overstay penalty. Check your account

mfceiling wrote: »

Definitely didn't get hit with the overstay. Stopped the timer on 44 minutes...was keeping an eye on my time on the ESB app!!

If you've an SR+, 40% added would be 20kWh @ €0.30/kWh approx, so €6.
Most likely the eCars backend system timed you as over 45 minutes & applied the €5 overstay fee.

It's happened several already who stopped at 44 minutes but there's a delay with eCars.

innrain

mfceiling wrote: »

Definitely didn't get hit with the overstay. Stopped the timer on 44 minutes...was keeping an eye on my time on the ESB app!!

You should get the details of in the charge history in the app.

silver_sky

They were also doing maintenance today so it wouldn't surprise me if there was some buggy stuff happening.

mfceiling

Kramer wrote: »

If you've an SR+, 40% added would be 20kWh @ €0.30/kWh approx, so €6.
Most likely the eCars backend system timed you as over 45 minutes & applied the €5 overstay fee.

It's happened several already who stopped at 44 minutes but there's a delay with eCars.

Just checked the email and it said charging time 44 minutes 49 seconds and energy consumed 37.160.
Does that sound right?

mfceiling

Here

innrain

37kWh sounds right for 45 mins the problem is you're missing some 20%. hmm. Never happened to me before. Any other car plugged on AC?

Kramer

innrain wrote: »

37kWh sounds right for 45 mins the problem is you're missing some 20%. hmm.

Is your car an SR+?
37kWh in 45 minutes is possible on a 50kW charger (unusual though in a Model 3 IMO - you'd be maxing it at 125 amps @ 400v for the entire time & the Model 3's battery charges from approx. 350v at the low end to 400v, full, with lower voltages for the new battery chemistry SR+ cars).

A LR could take 37kWhs in 45 minutes too at a 50kW charger, but that wouldn't equate to a 40% charge either, i.e. 27% to 67%.

Maybe someone else is familiar with that charger & it's a HPC?

innrain

Kramer wrote: »

Is your car an SR+?
37kWh in 45 minutes is possible on a 50kW charger (unusual though in a Model 3 IMO - you'd be maxing it at 125 amps @ 400v for the entire time & the Model 3's battery charges from approx. 350v at the low end to 400v, full, with lower voltages for the new battery chemistry SR+ cars).

A LR could take 37kWhs in 45 minutes too at a 50kW charger, but that wouldn't equate to a 40% charge either, i.e. 27% to 67%.

Maybe someone else is familiar with that charger & it's a HPC?

I got 37kWh with the Kona in 45 mins. I know the charger @ Templeville triple unit limited in power (if someone plugs on AC side the DC drops to 25kW) I've yet to charge the LR (blue :P) at the ESB triples.

iknorr

TitianGerm wrote: »

No he won't.

You can claim capital allowances up to €24,000 on cars. The €24,000 reduces your taxable income not your actual tax.

ok so 24k write off/down?

How does this work. Im currently thinking of buying through my company.

Is it that 24k gets taken off my company tax bill at the end of the tax year or is it 24k is taken off my personal tax return?

iknorr

innrain wrote: »

I think MightyMunster speaks from the owner perspective and not the employee. and there is no BIK for the next 17 months if new <50k pre grants. The window closes on this though as 17 months go fast and your facing a 20+% of the said value as BIK for every year of use
As an rough example EV price 50k. BIK lets say 20% -> 10k on top of your personal annual income that could get you a tax bill of 4k per year. There are benefits though so is up to you if it's worth it.

If i buy the car now then in 17 months will i have to start paying bik each year or will i still be exempt?

mfceiling

innrain wrote: »

37kWh sounds right for 45 mins the problem is you're missing some 20%. hmm. Never happened to me before. Any other car plugged on AC?

Nobody charging there except me. It's a 2020 long range performance model 3.

Maybe it's the maximum amount I could have taken on. Not great if I'm going to be relying on public charging. Considering I'm moving further away from there and the nearest charging points are 22kw ones. I'll be sitting there to Christmas!!

Kramer

innrain wrote: »

I got 37kWh with the Kona in 45 mins. I know the charger @ Templeville triple unit limited in power (if someone plugs on AC side the DC drops to 25kW) I've yet to charge the LR (blue :P) at the ESB triples.

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Just checked my eCars app & the SR+ has been pretty consistent, taking 31/32kWh in 44 minutes, averaging 42kW & usually charging from 20% to 80%.

Whatever accounts for the 37kWhs /40% for mfceiling, it's still very reasonable @ just €0.305/kWh. It's only going one way & it's a bargain compared to Ionity :eek:.

Kramer

mfceiling wrote: »

Nobody charging there except me. It's a 2020 long range performance model 3.

That would mostly explain it. Assuming an approx 80kWh battery, 40% would be 32kWh. Maybe some losses, maybe the HVAC was using some energy etc. 37kWh seems a tad high but nothing I'd question.

Close to 200kms for little over €11 in a €70k, 450hp+/AWD performance car ain't too expensive until you have access to cheap, night rate home charging.

Well wear .

mfceiling

Kramer wrote: »

That would mostly explain it. Assuming an approx 80kWh battery, 40% would be 32kWh. Maybe some losses, maybe the HVAC was using some energy etc. 37kWh seems a tad high but nothing I'd question.

Close to 200kms for little over €11 in a €70k, 450hp+/AWD performance car ain't too expensive until you have access to cheap, night rate home charging.

Well wear .

I've got home charging at the minute but as I've "moaned" on here before I'm moving to a house with street parking. Not going to install a home charger for the next person to use!!

MightyMunster

iknorr wrote: »

If i buy the car now then in 17 months will i have to start paying bik each year or will i still be exempt?

You have to pay BIK now on anything over the first 50,000. SR+ is around 53/54 for this calculation.
Currently you'll have to pay BIK from January 2023 on the full value, disaster if this happens

Should really talk to your accountant about it.
The big advantage is your company pays for the car from pre tax income.

MightyMunster

https://www.iconaccounting.ie/blog/buying-an-electric-vehicle-tax-advantages-for-professional-contractors

See here for some details

ferg01

All,

Apologies if this has been asked already (I've been reading through previous threads and can't find an answer) but if you move to night rates, can you set a start time and the end time for charging either via the Tesla app or on the charger itself?

Thanks in advance

Sam W

ferg01 wrote: »

All,

Apologies if this has been asked already (I've been reading through previous threads and can't find an answer) but if you move to night rates, can you set a start time and the end time for charging either via the Tesla app or on the charger itself?

Thanks in advance

You can set up a start time OR an end time, but not both. You could set your charge limit to charge to a certain percentage so that it would start at 12am and end before the night rate ends.

AndyBoBandy

also, you can only set the timer from within the car itself, and not via the app.

However, If plugged in, you can start/stop the car charging at any time from the app (just not set teh scheduled charge timer).

example: My car is set to start charging at 3am if it's plugged in. I plugged in one evening about 10pm with the car only at 12%, and it was very cold out, so from the app, I started it charging, and stopped it about an hour later when the battery was at around 25%... then at 3am, the car started charging again as scheduled up to th e80% I had it set to charge to...


You can adjust the amount the car charges to from anywhere between 50% & 100% from the app though.. (for me, during the week it's set at 80%, and over the weekend I set to 90%)

Sam W

One less thing to worry about for MIC SR+ is that you can always charge it up to 100% (and you should at least once a week). If you charge it when you still have 25% battery, you should be able to finish a full charge within the night hours.