Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

Joni Mitchell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122077875#Comment_122077875

My contract finishes with Bord Gais in June, that rate is excellent including the rate for all other times compared to Bord Gais, we have two electric cars so the EV rate in middle of night makes a lot of sense for us.

Marty Bird

Guys anyone here use a bike holder on their model 3 not attached to a tow hitch ? Thanks

AndyBoBandy

I have one of the ones that straps to the boot, but I’d never use it on the Model 3 as the boot on the Model 3 feels like it’s made out of tin foil…

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122090611#Comment_122090611

An option is to install the roof rack and use whatever accessory to hold bikes there. Installation is quite easy. The hardest part for me was lining up the PPF for the rubber feet to sit on. 🤣

I have a photo of my RR on the previous page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ePnRXIvAw&ab_channel=BenVallack

creedp

DId a round trip to Galway yesterday, 220km each way. Only useful std autopilot on way there but decided to activate the enhanced autopilot for return journey to see what it was like. Surprised when I got the message that autopilot was cancelled once before for inappropriate use and if that happens 5 times it will be deactivated permanently (paraphrasing here).

Does anyone know why autopilot can be deactivated for inappropriate use? I've no memory of any specific event. I have a slight recollection of some kerfuffle when I first used the autopilot, can't remember exactly what was the issue but it was purely due to learning curve familiarity.

slave1

Those restrictions are per driving session IIRC so whatever you did previously should have no bearing, if getting messages like that again log with Tesla to have a look as EVERYTHING you do is sent back to the mothership

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122096866#Comment_122096866

This may not answer your question correctly - but this is from the support FAQ

Autosteer is unavailable due to driver attentiveness. How do I turn it back on?

If you repeatedly ignore the inattentive driver warnings, Autosteer will be disengaged for that trip. If you receive several
‘Forced Autopilot Disengagements’ (three times for vehicles without a cabin camera and five times for vehicles with a cabin camera), Autosteer and all features that use Autosteer will be temporarily removed for approximately one week.

There is no way to manually clear a Forced Autopilot Disengagement or suspension. After approximately one week, you will be able to use Autosteer again.

Im traveling the motorways a lot for work and since they introduced this new system I get warnings regularly, even with two hands on the wheel. The biggest issue is if Im driving straight and holding the wheel steady, its doesnt detect any movements on the wheel and I cop a warning. I appreciate why the changes were made with autosteer, but I feel they have gone way too far.

As @slave1 noted, as it counted per driving session, if I do happen get 3-4 warnings, I'll pull over, stop the car and then restart. Sometimes instead of driving through the express lane on a toll, I'll go through the booth and use that as a chance to stop and restart at the barrier (literally just need to put the car in park). This then resets the warning counter back to zero so I dont get a strike.

Redfox25

You get a warning, move the wheel slightly, that's not a strike. A strike is when you get the warning, ignore it for a while and then you get a strike as the car assumes your not paying attention as it prompted you, andyou ignored it.

kennethsmyth

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122090970#Comment_122090970

Well not quite tinfoil but probably aluminium which is just thicker tinfoil 😁

Gumbo

New update looks slick. It has started to roll out to uk and Ireland over the last few days.

https://youtu.be/7w0nU4SLgdM?si=nhjBvhjsPJDHCzrK

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098198#Comment_122098198

The random nature of the warnings is a bit of a pain. I got to the point where I was effectively steering the car in tandem with autopilot to avoid them so questioning if as well off with std autopilot.

Same with overtaking and moving back, I can't see why there is a need to apply pressure on the wheel wach time. I accidently deactivated the EAP a couple of times in the beginnning by applying too much pressure but continued to find the experience a bit artificial tbh.

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122098198#Comment_122098198

Yes but there are a couple of different levels of warnings. Get enough red warnings in one driving session and AP will be disengaged giving you a strike. If I have a long day I could be on the road for 6-7 hours, its pretty easy to rack up the warnings over this time. I got a couple of strikes very early on as I was getting used to the changes. By doing what I posted earlier, Ive had no issues since - YMMV. Tesla aggressive changes to autosteer has been a complete bollox.

Blue tac on the camera sorted mine😁

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122100187#Comment_122100187

Perhaps better to think of it as being a Badge of Honour, or a Target to see if you get disqualified…😋

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122100387#Comment_122100387

I put a cam cover over mine and just leave it closed. I still managed to get a second strike when I was travelling back from NI last week. I was cruising at around 70-80kmh because I had a headliner strapped to the roof bars and didn't want too much wind force to damage it. I had my hand resting on the wheel the whole time and it still managed to rack up enough warnings to get a strike. Seems to be worse at cruising speeds. It's the most annoying part of driving the Tesla.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122100523#Comment_122100523

I get the odd warning alright but never strikes. Each car must have its own personality 😃 Or maybe you lot are just doing the bollix on it😇

DrPsychia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122100604#Comment_122100604

it's a problem with various Teslas I've driven, and with my MY. The torque sensor they use in the steering rack is not as sensitive as those in well established brands like Volvo or Audi, there's a lot of play in the steering before the sensor detects input. So it's either purposefully calibrated that way or they're using a low quality sensor, either way I hate it and wish they made it more like established brands..

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122100661#Comment_122100661

Difference between Tesla and bmw. Tesla specifically ask you to apply pressure, a small turn as such. My bmw require me just to place my hand back on the wheel. It’s as if the bmw wheel has a sensor running through the wheel.

creedp

Tbh Im beginning to think that I couldnt be bothered dealing with that sort of messing and think I may stick with std autopilot.

It seems ridiculous to me that the EAP is giving strikes to drivers who are essentially playing by the rules. I was holding the steering wheel the entire time and even regularly moving the steering wheel and I was still getting the prompts to apply pressure to wheel.

For what is a pretty impressive system otherwise I don't understand why Tesla didn't put pressure sensors on the steering wheel which would obviate the need for this silliness

DrPsychia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122100833#Comment_122100833

There's no sensors in the wheel itself. The EPS is just very sensitive to input. Maybe Tesla did it by design. Whatever way it's setup, I think Teslas implementation is inferior, I wish they'd copy volvo, audi or bmw.

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122101115#Comment_122101115

I have the standard AP. I don't see the benefit of having EAP.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122101115#Comment_122101115

I’ve EAP and no strikes. Never get any warnings other than to apply pressure every prompt.

wassie

But its the frequency of the warnings which is ridiculous and the need to do unnecessary movements. I can be driving at cruising on the motorway and holding the wheel steady with two hands with AP on and get a warning, so I have to actually wobble the wheel.

Ive always loved driving this car and AP was amazing at reducing fatigue on my long trips. But now its Autosteer is second rate compared to a number of other of active lane assist systems.

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122101425#Comment_122101425

I can't remember if you installed the cam cover and if you think this helps? I have installed a cam cover and will see if makes any difference. will be heading to Cork in a couple of weeks so a long motorway stint to test it.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122101547#Comment_122101547

I’ve no cam cover either.
Now I’m not saying EAP is worth it, it came on my car as a CPO 😀

wassie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122101547#Comment_122101547

Ive read a lot of conflicting reports on reddit. Some say it increases sensitivity as a result of the cam being blocked, others say it makes no difference. Couldnt find anything definitive one way or the other.

gossamerfabric

tariffs on model 3 from shanghai might be imposed from early July based on the timeline from E.U.

Cormacca87

Very much enjoying this thread. I was looking at a VW ID.3 and eventually ruled it out, deciding on a used Model 3 instead, if I go for my first EV.

Have decided on a used long range model and just a case of finding the right car now.

Looking for a 2021 so it's happy hunting at the moment :)

User1998

Just stick a plastic water bottle in the steering wheel and cover the camera and you will never get a warning again

Dagryl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122101462#Comment_122101462

Instead of holding the steering wheel steady apply a small force to the left or right.