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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Evilbart


    Hi I am with Energia yes and below are the exact rates.

    7.54c 2-6am

    33.86c all other times



  • Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭AUDI20


    I am with Electric Ireland and was thinking of switching to Energia for the 2 to 6am charging their day rate is 2c lower than EI. but I have been hearing a lot of bad reviews about energia about wrongful billing, excess billing and poor customer service



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Evilbart


    I am with them a year now and have had zero issues.

    All the energy companies have bad reviews if you go looking I suppose.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    I have personally found Energia one of the better companies to deal with. Perhaps I was lucky, but I never had to wait long for help on the phone either. Their web site also seems to work well..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Evilbart


    The Zappi does 7kw an hour so pretty sure I could get almost a 50% charge into the Tesla on the night rate for about €2 which is honestly insane value.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Yea, 7.4kw/h if the voltage etc are up to par.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Evilbart


    We have a hybrid Mercedes A250e with a 12 kWh battery which charges in about 1 hour 40mins so the maths works out there.

    Although we also have a BMW 530e and that only seems to fully charge a 8Kwh battery in 2 hours 20 minutes so that might be a limitation of the BMW.

    I’m assuming the Tesla will have no issues charging at 7.4Kwh an hour hopefully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Conar


    The Tesla will take up to 11kw AC and most likely the charger will give 7kw approx.
    Usually you will have an overload detector on the charger which limits the draw to make sure it doesn't trip your house if someone is using a power shower, or you've the dishwasher, tumble dryer, washing machine, and oven on. Thats unlikely though in the EV charging hours.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Merc most likely charges at 32a (7.4kw).
    The 530e only charges at 16a (3.7kw).
    Tesla will take 32a at home also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    PM a price maybe? Thinking about this but had a poor experience with a crowd based near the Red Cow, could see the film too obviously.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    I can't remember what I paid. This was 1.5 years ago. I just know I thought it was a fair price at the time. Contact them and they'll give you the price.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭frank730


    Can I ask your view on A250e? Hoping to buy one later this year, 2020 model.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Evilbart


    My partner got the A250e a 2020 about a month ago with only 27000 km on it of which 20000km was done on full electric when I checked the app.

    I’m not mad about Mercedes but she loves it and I have to say it is a lovely little car. The engine is only a 1.3l but when combined with the electric motor I believe it can produce over 200bhp.

    At the moment a full charge is showing 60km which costs us about 90cent to charge on a night rate and gets herself into work and back for 2 days Celbridge to Lucan.

    Anything specific you want to know just shoot me a PM👍.



  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Joni Mitchell


    My contract finishes with Bord Gais in June, that rate is excellent including the rate for all other times compared to Bord Gais, we have two electric cars so the EV rate in middle of night makes a lot of sense for us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    Guys anyone here use a bike holder on their model 3 not attached to a tow hitch ? Thanks

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I have one of the ones that straps to the boot, but I’d never use it on the Model 3 as the boot on the Model 3 feels like it’s made out of tin foil…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    An option is to install the roof rack and use whatever accessory to hold bikes there. Installation is quite easy. The hardest part for me was lining up the PPF for the rubber feet to sit on. 🤣

    I have a photo of my RR on the previous page.

    Post edited by ...Ghost... on

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭creedp


    DId a round trip to Galway yesterday, 220km each way. Only useful std autopilot on way there but decided to activate the enhanced autopilot for return journey to see what it was like. Surprised when I got the message that autopilot was cancelled once before for inappropriate use and if that happens 5 times it will be deactivated permanently (paraphrasing here).

    Does anyone know why autopilot can be deactivated for inappropriate use? I've no memory of any specific event. I have a slight recollection of some kerfuffle when I first used the autopilot, can't remember exactly what was the issue but it was purely due to learning curve familiarity.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,300 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Those restrictions are per driving session IIRC so whatever you did previously should have no bearing, if getting messages like that again log with Tesla to have a look as EVERYTHING you do is sent back to the mothership



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭wassie


    This may not answer your question correctly - but this is from the support FAQ

    Autosteer is unavailable due to driver attentiveness. How do I turn it back on?

    If you repeatedly ignore the inattentive driver warnings, Autosteer will be disengaged for that trip. If you receive several
    ‘Forced Autopilot Disengagements’ (three times for vehicles without a cabin camera and five times for vehicles with a cabin camera), Autosteer and all features that use Autosteer will be temporarily removed for approximately one week.

    There is no way to manually clear a Forced Autopilot Disengagement or suspension. After approximately one week, you will be able to use Autosteer again.

    Im traveling the motorways a lot for work and since they introduced this new system I get warnings regularly, even with two hands on the wheel. The biggest issue is if Im driving straight and holding the wheel steady, its doesnt detect any movements on the wheel and I cop a warning. I appreciate why the changes were made with autosteer, but I feel they have gone way too far.

    As @slave1 noted, as it counted per driving session, if I do happen get 3-4 warnings, I'll pull over, stop the car and then restart. Sometimes instead of driving through the express lane on a toll, I'll go through the booth and use that as a chance to stop and restart at the barrier (literally just need to put the car in park). This then resets the warning counter back to zero so I dont get a strike.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭Redfox25


    You get a warning, move the wheel slightly, that's not a strike. A strike is when you get the warning, ignore it for a while and then you get a strike as the car assumes your not paying attention as it prompted you, andyou ignored it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭kennethsmyth


    Well not quite tinfoil but probably aluminium which is just thicker tinfoil 😁



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    New update looks slick. It has started to roll out to uk and Ireland over the last few days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭creedp


    The random nature of the warnings is a bit of a pain. I got to the point where I was effectively steering the car in tandem with autopilot to avoid them so questioning if as well off with std autopilot.

    Same with overtaking and moving back, I can't see why there is a need to apply pressure on the wheel wach time. I accidently deactivated the EAP a couple of times in the beginnning by applying too much pressure but continued to find the experience a bit artificial tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭wassie


    Yes but there are a couple of different levels of warnings. Get enough red warnings in one driving session and AP will be disengaged giving you a strike. If I have a long day I could be on the road for 6-7 hours, its pretty easy to rack up the warnings over this time. I got a couple of strikes very early on as I was getting used to the changes. By doing what I posted earlier, Ive had no issues since - YMMV. Tesla aggressive changes to autosteer has been a complete bollox.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭allinthehead


    Blue tac on the camera sorted mine😁

    ☀️



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Perhaps better to think of it as being a Badge of Honour, or a Target to see if you get disqualified…😋



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    I put a cam cover over mine and just leave it closed. I still managed to get a second strike when I was travelling back from NI last week. I was cruising at around 70-80kmh because I had a headliner strapped to the roof bars and didn't want too much wind force to damage it. I had my hand resting on the wheel the whole time and it still managed to rack up enough warnings to get a strike. Seems to be worse at cruising speeds. It's the most annoying part of driving the Tesla.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭allinthehead


    I get the odd warning alright but never strikes. Each car must have its own personality 😃 Or maybe you lot are just doing the bollix on it😇

    ☀️



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  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭DrPsychia


    it's a problem with various Teslas I've driven, and with my MY. The torque sensor they use in the steering rack is not as sensitive as those in well established brands like Volvo or Audi, there's a lot of play in the steering before the sensor detects input. So it's either purposefully calibrated that way or they're using a low quality sensor, either way I hate it and wish they made it more like established brands..



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Difference between Tesla and bmw. Tesla specifically ask you to apply pressure, a small turn as such. My bmw require me just to place my hand back on the wheel. It’s as if the bmw wheel has a sensor running through the wheel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭creedp


    Tbh Im beginning to think that I couldnt be bothered dealing with that sort of messing and think I may stick with std autopilot.

    It seems ridiculous to me that the EAP is giving strikes to drivers who are essentially playing by the rules. I was holding the steering wheel the entire time and even regularly moving the steering wheel and I was still getting the prompts to apply pressure to wheel.

    For what is a pretty impressive system otherwise I don't understand why Tesla didn't put pressure sensors on the steering wheel which would obviate the need for this silliness



  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭DrPsychia


    There's no sensors in the wheel itself. The EPS is just very sensitive to input. Maybe Tesla did it by design. Whatever way it's setup, I think Teslas implementation is inferior, I wish they'd copy volvo, audi or bmw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    I have the standard AP. I don't see the benefit of having EAP.

    Stay Free



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I’ve EAP and no strikes. Never get any warnings other than to apply pressure every prompt.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭wassie


    But its the frequency of the warnings which is ridiculous and the need to do unnecessary movements. I can be driving at cruising on the motorway and holding the wheel steady with two hands with AP on and get a warning, so I have to actually wobble the wheel.

    Ive always loved driving this car and AP was amazing at reducing fatigue on my long trips. But now its Autosteer is second rate compared to a number of other of active lane assist systems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭creedp


    I can't remember if you installed the cam cover and if you think this helps? I have installed a cam cover and will see if makes any difference. will be heading to Cork in a couple of weeks so a long motorway stint to test it.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I’ve no cam cover either.
    Now I’m not saying EAP is worth it, it came on my car as a CPO 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭wassie


    Ive read a lot of conflicting reports on reddit. Some say it increases sensitivity as a result of the cam being blocked, others say it makes no difference. Couldnt find anything definitive one way or the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    tariffs on model 3 from shanghai might be imposed from early July based on the timeline from E.U.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Cormacca87


    Very much enjoying this thread. I was looking at a VW ID.3 and eventually ruled it out, deciding on a used Model 3 instead, if I go for my first EV.

    Have decided on a used long range model and just a case of finding the right car now.

    Looking for a 2021 so it's happy hunting at the moment :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,330 ✭✭✭User1998


    Just stick a plastic water bottle in the steering wheel and cover the camera and you will never get a warning again



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Dagryl


    Instead of holding the steering wheel steady apply a small force to the left or right.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    this is it. A tiny piece of pressure does the trick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭creedp


    How often do you apply the left/right force? I was doing this regularly during my last drive and still got the random notifications to apply pressure to wheel



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I just apply constant pressure of one arm resting on the window sill and never get the "apply force" warnings. But I have the camera blocked and just the basic AP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Probably better to look for a Made in China RWD version. 2022 version. Basically the same range as the Made in USA version, but better built and with LFP battery and power boot and a few other upgrades. You lose the faster 0-60, but gain a whole lot more IMO.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    I mostly use a counter weight on the steering wheel, and when doing 100km/h+, I never see a warning, or blue flash on screen. Maybe on 2 or 3 occasions I have seen it doing over 100km/h on a long journey across Ireland. It's only when doing slower speeds I ever see the warning. Sometimes it says there is a cheat device detected and to remove it. I am always at the ready to grab the wheel with my hands resting on my legs, or just lightly touching the wheel.

    Here's where it gets funny. I had the counter weight off the wheel for a few weeks recently and drove my usual route and random trips. I would leave my right hand resting to the right side of the wheel and my wrist resting on upper knee. This would emulate the same turning force on the wheel as the counter-weight. I get the warnings as frequently as when the counter-weight is on the wheel, as well as the cheat device warning! How can it detect a cheat device device when there is no cheat device? (not a real question)

    It's ridiculous and needs to be sorted in an update.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 Cormacca87


    @...Ghost... Thanks for that. When you say RWD, you mean a standard range is it? I thought the 2021 cars were China built as well no?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Every 15 seconds or so I think.

    Edit. It’s every 30 seconds.

    Post edited by Gumbo on


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