Tesla Model 3 - V3.0

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120150865#Comment_120150865

Go online.

click on trade in.

enter details.

then you’ll know.

Thor

I have a feeling a lot of owners here won't want to answer this question, but realistically . I'm in the market for a 2021LR. What is a solid price assuming between 20-40k kms. Mainly comes down to heatpump/powered trunk, nicer trim (not a fan of chrome). So lets compare to what would a 2020LR with similar mileage be worth.

Dealer mentioned they sold a white LR 2021 for 51250 today and I simply can't believe someone dropped that much on a car 2 year old car when a new one is nearly the same price.

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120152075#Comment_120152075

Dealers talk loadsa sh!te all the time.

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120151337#Comment_120151337

Unfortunately got stuck in a lot of traffic on the test drive. Despite that I was impressed, the acceleration is something else even in the RWD. If I'm ordering it would be white, standard wheels & dark interior. Rep did say that new orders will be September at the earliest unfortunately. I may still order it and then cancel later if it doesn't make the grant.

Thor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120152136#Comment_120152136

Yeah really felt like they just wanted to try and convince me their still going for 50+. Just reeks of desperation.

Either way, I'm glad I'm finally in a position to buy my first Tesla. Have wanted one for years. Just trying to decide which is the best one to go for.

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120152674#Comment_120152674

Definitely go ahead and order. There will be a good few cancellations from the 2022 RWD orders, between buyers switching to LR, the sums no longer adding up with a lower trade in value or reluctance to take a car without USS.

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120152699#Comment_120152699

This.

order away and I bet OP would be in it by end of March…

sure I’ve a White RWD with standard wheels and black interior on order since last year…. I had it paused as when I ordered it said Q1/Q2 2023 which I was fine with, but then a car was available within weeks…, as I mainly only ordered to guard against another price increase which was thought was coming… and at the time they were offering me €44k for my 2020 SR+!!! Which was bonkers money so I said I’d upgrade, but had too much on to switch last year, so was happy to wait til this year… but alas now it not the time to be trading in to Tesla, so I’m happy to keep what I have for the foreseeable future..

They texted me about an hour ago asking if I wanted the car or not… and if not they’ll cancel the order….. so that’s a base spec Model 3 on the ship that will be given to someone who was told September…. And I bet it won’t be the only one…

The cars on the ship get assigned while it’s on route…. And there’s a lot of cars on the ship… they also hold a good few back from being assigned to gradually release them on the website as inventory stock (meaning accelerated delivery). This is to try and entice impulse buyers… but as the ships get closer to Europe, and if inventory sales are slow, they gradually start assigning these ‘spare’ cars to firm orders… and suddenly a lot of people get bumped up the list.

Mantis Toboggan

When ordering there's a box there for wall charger, do I need to tick that or do I sort the home charger separately?

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120153107#Comment_120153107

You can get it from them separately, or get any charger you want yourself… leave it blank for now unless you’re sure you 100% want to go with the Tesla charger. I have the previous gen Tesla charger and it hasn’t put a foot wrong in 3 years..

silver_sky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120153107#Comment_120153107

Don't think the Tesla one qualifies for the grant now? common options would be myenergi Zappi, EO mini, ohme, wallbox etc. have a look and see which one you prefer and get quotes for install.

https://www.seai.ie/grants/electric-vehicle-grants/electric-vehicle-home-charger-grant/

innrain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120152075#Comment_120152075

I have a blue LR May 2021 with tow. Paid at the time 62k~ish. Normally after 2 years I would expect a car to depreciate around 25-30% so 45k-47k~ish? The car is 54.5k as new now (actually is 61k but who is crazy enough to pay 6.5k for tow hitch) but was not uncommon to have SH price higher than new. It is now versus someday. With Tesla you never know. Website says March salesman says September. Considering the grant may vanish in July and the new price would swing back you're in a tight window.

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120153339#Comment_120153339

The Tesla Wall charger is on the approved list that someone posted a link to a few weeks ago, maybe on the other thread.

JOL1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120153713#Comment_120153713

Grant Scheme will only support smart chargers registered on Triple E from last Sept. I looked to see the Tesla Charger listed (its not user friendly) but didn't see it . It would be helpful if anyone has found it registered on Triple E to share as its a material factor in choice of charger (EUR600 grant)

Screenshot 2023-01-24 at 23.23.35.png

josip

Here's what I looked for and found. Was I being too optimistic/naiive?

It would be good if someone else can confirm I've interpreted the listing correctly.

https://triplee.seai.ie/AcaProducts/ProductDetails.aspx?id=77997&h=False

silver_sky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120153713#Comment_120153713

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120153844#Comment_120153844

It's not on the current list. It's Triple E rated but not Smart.

You can see the list here https://triplee.seai.ie/AcaProducts/Search.aspx

Click Advanced Search and filter like below to see the list of grant approved charge points.

josip

We got grant approval back in December, selected Other-Other on the web page. I was going to email the SEAI at the time to check specifically if the Tesla Wall Charger was included but was deterred by this line in the Ts&Cs.

"SEAI does not currently maintain a list of approved products"

And then someone posted about the product needing to be on the Triple E register and I went off, found it and assumed it would be ok. The triple E register is on the seai domain so the above statement is a bit confusing.

The only part in the Ts&Cs where they stipulate what kind of charger is acceptable is Section 24.

Electric Vehicle Home Charger Grant scheme Terms and Conditions.pdf

I can't see a "Smart Charger" requirement even though it's been publicised and as silver_sky has pointed out, you can filter for approved chargers in the Advanced Search. I think it would be safest to stick to that list.

JOL1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120153960#Comment_120153960

That mentions "Approved Products" and their website makes it clear .. "From September 2022 the EV Home Charger Grant Scheme will only support smart chargers registered on Triple E. " From this it is clear that it is "smart chargers" and "Registered on Triple E" and also that there have been changes

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120154026#Comment_120154026

Yes, looks like we'll be going with a Wallbox instead now. Pity, I liked the appearance of the Wall Connector.

georgix

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120149440#Comment_120149440

Hm, 45 yrs old, 5 NCB, fully comp, bonus protected, Allianz, 960e. Hopefully few more years of NCB will get the price down. :)

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120154158#Comment_120154158

Get the wall box installed, claim the grant then have a Tesla charger installed (if you really want it) and sell the wall box…

fricatus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120151515#Comment_120151515

Thank you! I didn't know that facility existed.

I've submitted the details - waiting on an email now.

rx8

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120154571#Comment_120154571

Jaysus, you need to shop around.

Are you doing high mileage or a sales rep. ?

Putting in your low annual mileage attracts a discount too. No penalty points and even adding your other half to the policy can bring it down.

Try phoning Aviva, they've been absolutely brilliant with me.

georgix

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120154740#Comment_120154740

Nah, 10-12k km bracket, full Irish licence, have my wife as named driver, no penalty points. Wife has her car full comprehensive insured with Allianz, I am the named driver on that one, also 10-12k km bracket, 3 years NCB, no penalty points. Maybe it is the area where we are living now, Lucan...in 2016 I had Peugeot 3008, 4 yrs old, we moved in 2018 from Stepaside to Lucan (when we bought the house), and that policy went up 50% just because we went from D18 to K78 eircode.

Will shop around in March, as soon as this policy is due to expire. :)

gallagheri

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120154158#Comment_120154158

This is unfortunate. I was hoping to install a TWC...

josip

Happy days, I just got email confirmation from the SEAI that the Wall Connector is eligible.

Although I would advise anyone else purchasing, to get your own email confirmation from the SEAI since it's not on the specific Triple E sublist.

Hello Sylvester,

Thank you for contacting SEAI.

I would like to confirm that yes the Tesla Wall Connector is eligible for the EV grant, so you will be able to proceed with your grant for the charger 

If you have any further queries, please feel free to contact us on 01 808 2100 or evchargers@seai.ie

Kind Regards,

Bob

AndyBoBandy

Well that’s that sorted then…….

id say anyone who wants the Tesla charger should fire away….

slave1

but if they want to futureproof look to solar integration capability...

fricatus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120150949#Comment_120150949

So Tesla came back to me, and IIRC, you had quoted what I thought was a ridiculous figure (hence your edit I'm guessing...) of about €27k.

I'm thinking you didn't misread... I was quoted €27,400 for my 222 MSM Standard RWD 🤣 - A quote so laughable, it just screams "we don't want your trade-in, so fcuk off!"

I knew that was the case of course, but I thought they might have offered something sensible for a four-month old Tesla with 5,000 km on the clock.

Anyway, I'm very happy with my car, so I'll just count my blessings and keep enjoying it!

AndyBoBandy

The thing is they are being absolutely flooded with Tesla’s as trade in’s at the moment, so can low ball offer every one that comes in because they simply don’t need/want anymore…..

It is most definitely a buyers market (including for Tesla themselves), so they can pretty much set the price, and it looks like they are setting it as either A. We don’t want your car so fcuk off!!! or B. If you really insist, we are going to low ball you so much to make it worth our while in taking it, inspecting/cleaning/fixing it, and then selling it (when we are far too busy selling brand new cars)

Think of how many people want to upgrade from a 3 to a Y since the price drop… and all want to trade their 3 against a Y…

id say give it a few months to all calm down, and allow them time to shift all the new stock, as well as all the 2nd hand stock they’re about to be inundated with, and the offers might get a little bit respectable again..

I was offered €44k for my 2020 SR+ a few months ago!!!! Bonkers!!

podge1979

Might be a handy accessory?

https://electrek.co/2023/01/24/tesla-finally-gets-buttons-physical-inputs-thanks-new-smart-accessory/